(02-05-2019 09:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: We've got Iowa St, Marshall, Cincinnati, Syracuse all rolling into Peden the next 8 years.
All mid tier FBS programs basically. A good G5 is the same as a lower tier P5.
Nothing too exciting like Michigan St, Virginia Tech or Miami Fl like some of the MAC had had.
I get Marshall and OU (actually most of the MAC) have history... But that's not a team which belongs with P5ers. That's equivalent to a MAC team, from not the MAC... Arkansas State and Tulsa were not brag worthy for us either. ISU, Cuse and UC are good gets though.
(02-05-2019 09:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: We've got Iowa St, Marshall, Cincinnati, Syracuse all rolling into Peden the next 8 years.
All mid tier FBS programs basically. A good G5 is the same as a lower tier P5.
Nothing too exciting like Michigan St, Virginia Tech or Miami Fl like some of the MAC had had.
I get Marshall and OU (actually most of the MAC) have history... But that's not a team which belongs with P5ers. That's equivalent to a MAC team, from not the MAC... Arkansas State and Tulsa were not brag worthy for us either. ISU, Cuse and UC are good gets though.
Marshall I'd consider as an upper tier G5, within the upper third with that 38,000 seater and good name value.
Louisiana, FAU and South Alabama also in Peden. Decent G5. No more UMass, Idaho and NMSU series on the schedule which was famous for its weakness
(02-05-2019 09:40 PM)Kittonhead Wrote: We've got Iowa St, Marshall, Cincinnati, Syracuse all rolling into Peden the next 8 years.
All mid tier FBS programs basically. A good G5 is the same as a lower tier P5.
Nothing too exciting like Michigan St, Virginia Tech or Miami Fl like some of the MAC had had.
I get Marshall and OU (actually most of the MAC) have history... But that's not a team which belongs with P5ers. That's equivalent to a MAC team, from not the MAC... Arkansas State and Tulsa were not brag worthy for us either. ISU, Cuse and UC are good gets though.
Marshall I'd consider as an upper tier G5, within the upper third with that 38,000 seater and good name value.
Louisiana, FAU and South Alabama also in Peden. Decent G5. No more UMass, Idaho and NMSU series on the schedule which was famous for its weakness
(02-23-2019 01:58 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: So WMU's recently played/set to play Michigan St, Syracuse, and Pitt in Kalamazoo in a span of a few years.
Toledo, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, and Ohio also seem to regularly schedule Power 5 teams at home.
For all this talk of the Power 5 breaking away, sure seems like the Power 5 has to travel to Group of 5 stadiums a lot.................
A lot relative to what? There are 4 games OOC for every team. 2 OOC home games on average per year. In the future Toledo has zero home games vs P5 schools. That's 12 or so scheduled games with 0% P5. That's not good.
In 2018 we had Miami. 2015 Iowa State. 2014 Mizzou. 2010 Arizona. In 9 years with an average of 2 OOC games Toledo has grabbed 4 P5 teams... 4/18 is 22% of our home OOC games vs. a P5 team...
Half of college football is P5 so 65 teams or so... In the last 108 regular season games Toledo has played 4 P5 home games out of 65 teams....
Those numbers are supposed to be good? EMU has played how many P5 schools at home? Kent? Toledo's number is actually good and that's a net 4 P5 games in 9 seasons? Uh...
(02-23-2019 01:58 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: So WMU's recently played/set to play Michigan St, Syracuse, and Pitt in Kalamazoo in a span of a few years.
Toledo, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, and Ohio also seem to regularly schedule Power 5 teams at home.
For all this talk of the Power 5 breaking away, sure seems like the Power 5 has to travel to Group of 5 stadiums a lot.................
A lot relative to what? There are 4 games OOC for every team. 2 OOC home games on average per year. In the future Toledo has zero home games vs P5 schools. That's 12 or so scheduled games with 0% P5. That's not good.
In 2018 we had Miami. 2015 Iowa State. 2014 Mizzou. 2010 Arizona. In 9 years with an average of 2 OOC games Toledo has grabbed 4 P5 teams... 4/18 is 22% of our home OOC games vs. a P5 team...
Half of college football is P5 so 65 teams or so... In the last 108 regular season games Toledo has played 4 P5 home games out of 65 teams....
Those numbers are supposed to be good? EMU has played how many P5 schools at home? Kent? Toledo's number is actually good and that's a net 4 P5 games in 9 seasons? Uh...
Strange, I thought you guys had more then those. But it does feel like more Power 5 teams are playing in Group of 5 teams stadiums then ever. Maybe not necessarily individual G5 teams loading up on hosting P5 teams, or even the MAC as a whole, but the G5 as a whole. I bet in the 70s, 80s, 90s or first decade in the 2000s it wan't 22%, maybe 2 total in that timespan.
The past couple seasons I've kept track of G5 wins over P5 teams; this coming season I'm also going to log how many G5 teams host P5 teams. I bet the number would shock G5 fans and P5 fans.
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2019 09:52 PM by Bronco'14.)
(02-23-2019 01:58 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: So WMU's recently played/set to play Michigan St, Syracuse, and Pitt in Kalamazoo in a span of a few years.
Toledo, Northern Illinois, Central Michigan, and Ohio also seem to regularly schedule Power 5 teams at home.
For all this talk of the Power 5 breaking away, sure seems like the Power 5 has to travel to Group of 5 stadiums a lot.................
A lot relative to what? There are 4 games OOC for every team. 2 OOC home games on average per year. In the future Toledo has zero home games vs P5 schools. That's 12 or so scheduled games with 0% P5. That's not good.
In 2018 we had Miami. 2015 Iowa State. 2014 Mizzou. 2010 Arizona. In 9 years with an average of 2 OOC games Toledo has grabbed 4 P5 teams... 4/18 is 22% of our home OOC games vs. a P5 team...
Half of college football is P5 so 65 teams or so... In the last 108 regular season games Toledo has played 4 P5 home games out of 65 teams....
Those numbers are supposed to be good? EMU has played how many P5 schools at home? Kent? Toledo's number is actually good and that's a net 4 P5 games in 9 seasons? Uh...
Strange, I thought you guys had more then those. But it does feel like more Power 5 teams are playing in Group of 5 teams stadiums then ever. Maybe not necessarily individual G5 teams loading up on hosting P5 teams, or even the MAC as a whole, but the G5 as a whole. I bet in the 70s, 80s, 90s or first decade in the 2000s it wan't 22%, maybe 2 total in that timespan.
The past couple seasons I've kept track of G5 wins over P5 teams; this coming season I'm also going to log how many G5 teams host P5 teams. I bet the number would shock G5 fans and P5 fans.
There's as much of a divide between the top tier of the P5 and the rest of the P5 as there is between the P5 vs. the G5. What you are seeing is athletic departments like Ohio State, Alabama, Michigan, Penn State, Texas, Oklahoma, Clemson, etc. are making money hands over fist. The Pitt's and Iowa State' of the P5 are millionaires trying to keep up with billionaires.
As a result, they are unable to pay the money for the buy games like the fat wallets are doing. In fact, they are scheduling home and home with schools in their region to keep the costs down on travel.
Not to mention it seems some schools, like Kent, don't have much interest in hosting a P5 opponent. They instead seem focused on getting 3 ATM games per year while then hosting an FCS opponent for the 4th game.
I wish Miami would get more P5 games at home like UT, WMU, NIU, OU, CMU, ...
It seems like in the past we would have them and then they would just disappear.
Of course, economics is likely the underlying reason schedules were modified. :(
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I wish Miami would get more P5 games at home like UT, WMU, NIU, OU, CMU, ...
It seems like in the past we would have them and then they would just disappear.
Of course, economics is likely the underlying reason schedules were modified. :(
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Our attendance has gone downhill so far that our AD is going more more towards buy games against really big schools, for instance this year Ohio State and Iowa.
(02-25-2019 08:48 PM)DICK Wrote: [quote='JHVMU19' pid='15931740' dateline='1551141390']
I wish Miami would get more P5 games at home like UT, WMU, NIU, OU, CMU, ...
It seems like in the past we would have them and then they would just disappear.
Of course, economics is likely the underlying reason schedules were modified. :(
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Our attendance has gone downhill so far that our AD is going more more towards buy games against really big schools, for instance this year Ohio State and Iowa.
I know and it is sad.
This is what Kent State has done as well (Auburn, Wisconsin, and ASU on the road this year).
Don’t get me wrong, I love the big games, but at least 2 for 1 P5 deals please!
(02-25-2019 07:36 PM)JHVMU19 Wrote:
I wish Miami would get more P5 games at home like UT, WMU, NIU, OU, CMU, ...
It seems like in the past we would have them and then they would just disappear.
Of course, economics is likely the underlying reason schedules were modified. :(
No offense, but glad to see Miami schedule Long Island in the future. You guys need to lighten up your OOC schedule to get a few W's early if you hope to become bowl eligible in the future. In the big picture this would probably help your attendance, not hurt, as team that starts out 3-1 is much more attractive to alums and students than a team that is 0-4 every year.
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Ohio Schedules Home & Home with Syracuse
OMG - people get upset with Trump because he keeps replaying the 2016 election and T0led0 fans still can't get over a football game in 2011. 
