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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
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Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:15 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
Is that really all either of you “got” from the anti-semites comments?
Really?
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
lol wut
No. And it's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, that the Jews control everything with their money. She also retweeted this, her way of saying it ("hook-nosed"), but having plausible deniability when she is confronted.
She's an islamofascist that would love nothing more than to see Israel wiped off the map, and is passive-aggressive about it on twitter, but lately she has overplayed her hand and exposed herself. As Tim Pool put it, how many grains of sand makes a heap? If it were just 1 or 2 slip-ups, you could give her he benefit of the doubt, but it's one after another after another -- all in the same direction.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:15 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
Same could be said about most things these days.
Question "transgendered" bathrooms.... Hateful Homophobe
Question a sexual harassment claim.... Hateful Sexist
Want to build the wall - Hateful Racist
Blame social media. No one is allowed to "respectfully disagree" anymore. Anything that doesn't blow smoke up the backside or completely agree with something has been deemed to be hateful.
That being said, she has a history of being 100% anti Israel so if the shoe fits....
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:15 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
To use the current lingo - Ilhan Omar was basically dog whistling that the Jews are trying to pay people off with their money because - they're Jews and "that's what they do". If you recall in your history classes about Nazi Germany circa the 1930s - honestly anywhere in Europe really since the middle ages - the Jews were the bankers. Typical stereotype was to show an "evil Jew" buying everything with money.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:27 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:15 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
Same could be said about most things these days.
Question "transgendered" bathrooms.... Hateful Homophobe
Question a sexual harassment claim.... Hateful Sexist
Want to build the wall - Hateful Racist
Blame social media. No one is allowed to "respectfully disagree" anymore. Anything that doesn't blow smoke up the backside or completely agree with something has been deemed to be hateful.
That being said, she has a history of being 100% anti Israel so if the shoe fits....
Can't disagree with any of that. And I am not familiar with her past - though being anti-Israel isn't being anti-Semitic, if talking about things like their government policies and so on.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:47 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:27 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:15 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
Same could be said about most things these days.
Question "transgendered" bathrooms.... Hateful Homophobe
Question a sexual harassment claim.... Hateful Sexist
Want to build the wall - Hateful Racist
Blame social media. No one is allowed to "respectfully disagree" anymore. Anything that doesn't blow smoke up the backside or completely agree with something has been deemed to be hateful.
That being said, she has a history of being 100% anti Israel so if the shoe fits....
Can't disagree with any of that. And I am not familiar with her past - though being anti-Israel isn't being anti-Semitic, if talking about things like their government policies and so on.
That's the point. Ilhan Omar didn't cite anything specific that was an obvious critique of Israel. There's plenty that she could have stated. Sadly, she made a generic stereotype that was popular from the middle ages up to the 1940s.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:23 PM)Kronke Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
lol wut
No. And it's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, that the Jews control everything with their money. She also retweeted this, her way of saying it ("hook-nosed"), but having plausible deniability when she is confronted.
She's an islamofascist that would love nothing more than to see Israel wiped off the map, and is passive-aggressive about it on twitter, but lately she has overplayed her hand and exposed herself. As Tim Pool put it, how many grains of sand makes a heap? If it were just 1 or 2 slip-ups, you could give her he benefit of the doubt, but it's one after another after another -- all in the same direction.
But they actually are buying off politicians, it’s called lobbying.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:15 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
I don't see anything anti-Semitic there. Though nowadays any references to Israel that aren't positive get labelled as anti-Semitic.
Agree.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 03:10 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: I'm seriously considering a "Rep. omar containment thread". It's just one gaffe after another.
I don’t understand how this is anti-Semitic. Are you not allow to say anything against Israel? Isn’t pretty much every politician advocating positions because they get money for doing so?
They probably wouldn't be taken in a vacuum, but once you learn of her past comments it's hard to defend her.
https://www.twincities.com/2019/02/12/mn...rustrated/
Quote:Last year, state Sen. Ron Latz, a St. Louis Park Democrat who has served in the Legislature since 2002, invited Omar to his house, where a number of Jewish leaders had gathered. It wasn’t an ambush; Omar knew that group was there, and their purpose was to enlighten her.
‘WE WANTED TO REACH OUT’
Maybe Omar, who spent four years, from age 8 to 12, in a Kenyan camp for Somali refugees, just didn’t understand, Latz recalled some wondering at the time.
The apex (or nadir) of anti-Semitism — the Holocaust — would be a matter of European history for a then-36-year-old Muslim native of Somalia. Did she know it? The trappings of anti-Semitism in Minneapolis — restricted hospitals, country clubs and property covenants — were American manifestations that vanished decades before Omar came to America. And the subtleties of language — the code words used to marginalize Jews — did she understand the nuance?
“We wanted to reach out to her,” Latz recalled. “We were a bit troubled about several things she had said.”
Among their concerns was a 2012 tweet in which Omar wrote: “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” The language evokes an anti-Semitic trope of Jews as practicers of some type of sorcery that allows them to control others. It wasn’t until last month that Omar apologized, when the tweet gained national attention after she had taken office in Congress, but many in the local Jewish community were aware of it well before. As of Tuesday morning Tuesday morning, Omar had not deleted the tweet.
In local political discourse during the Democratic Party’s endorsement process, Omar’s phrasing as she spoke of Middle East policy troubled some. But Latz — who has defended Omar’s predecessor, Keith Ellison, against accusations of anti-Semitism — emphasized that the problem wasn’t in the policy dispute, but the diction and tone.
“I don’t mind a policy disagreement. That’s fine,” Latz, who said he has qualms with some Israeli policies, said in an interview. “I accept that she comes from a different place and has a different policy, but those can be expressed in a matter that does not express anti-Semitism with it. She grew up in a refugee camp, and her perspective is different, but I would also respect a very serious attempt to understand the history of the Jewish people and the way that they have been demonized and murdered for their faith.”
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
So when will she be the next dimocrat to announce her presidential campaign?
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
It's the exact same tactics that the Nazis used to demonize the Jews in the 1930's.
Ask yourself what would happen if a GOP member of the House mentioned the NAACP the exact same way how it would be treated. We both know that in that case an apology would never suffice, and based upon your posting history that you'd likely be calling for his resignation.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
(02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
I don't have lakefront on minnetonka...
I personally hope her li'l rag mouth keeps running the spigot to hell....
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(02-12-2019 06:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote: (02-12-2019 05:54 PM)NIU007 Wrote: I think it's being way overstated. There's the one statement about Israel "hypnotizing". Anything else?
When Omar said that people that criticized her would likely be labelled as anti-Muslim, she's saying the truth. She's not saying that's how it should be. I don't understand Latz's issue with that. And she's also right that there are a lot of groups giving money to politicians. In my opinion, it's excessive.
It's the exact same tactics that the Nazis used to demonize the Jews in the 1930's.
Ask yourself what would happen if a GOP member of the House mentioned the NAACP the exact same way how it would be treated. We both know that in that case an apology would never suffice, and based upon your posting history that you'd likely be calling for his resignation.
What she said is so way laughably short of what the Nazis did, it doesn't merit any comparison.
And I've never once called for anybody's resignation on this board. So I don't know where you get that from.
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
LOL at Congresswoman Omar
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https://nypost.com/2019/02/12/can-the-de...rael-bias/
Omar keeps her foreign affairs committee seat.
"...As for Hamas, what advice do college leftists have for how Israel should deal with a terror group whose charter pledges to eliminate the Jewish state? After all, these college snowflakes can’t even bear to hear a thought they don’t agree with, yet they act as if they have the answers to Mideast peace.
That is the Democrats’ ultimate problem. Their party is now largely secular, angry and radical, and moving away from its Judeo-Christian roots. The trends are more pronounced now than they were 10 years ago, and we can only imagine where the party will be 10 years from now.
Against this madness, give Trump his due. He embraces Israel for the miracle and strategic ally it is, and boldly moved our embassy to Jerusalem. And so far, when it comes to standing with Israel, the Dems looking to challenge him in 2020 offer no competition."
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RE: Ilhan Omar Calls For Complete Defunding Of FEMA, Coast Guard, TSA, Secret Service
How does Israel help us strategically?
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(02-13-2019 10:06 AM)NIU007 Wrote: How does Israel help us strategically?
From the left who love to step in to make a mess in Libya and Serbia for humanitarian reasons? We should step aside and let the Jews get massacred again?
But I don't know what that has to do with the Democrats anti-semitism.
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