One positive note: Sims was really good. He maniacally attacked the offensive glass, drew a big charge, and on 1 play with the shot clock running down, he got to the rim to draw a foul rather than trying to throw up a 3 or fallaway jumper. Nice game by the freshman.

The negatives are well established in this thread...

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.

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Old 70shawk remembers watching the Washington Redskins play during the George Allen era. Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen were both quarterbacks on those teams. For whatever reason Coach Allen wanted to start Kilmer over Jurgensen.

The Redskins would get into a hole, then Jergensen would get called in and frequently brought them back for the win - and then Allen would go back to Kilmer for the next game. Seemed like the same thing happened over and over and over.

Coach knew what he wanted to do, and he was going to revert back to it over and over no matter if something else worked. That's just the way he rolled...

(01-31-2019 09:34 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.

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Old 70shawk remembers watching the Washington Redskins play during the George Allen era. Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen were both quarterbacks of those teams. For whatever reason Coach Allen wanted to start Kilmer over Jurgensen.

The Redskins would get into a hole, then Jergensen would get called in and frequently brought them back for the win - and then Allen would go back to Kilmer for the next game. Seemed like the game thing happened over and over and over.

Coach knew what he wanted to do, and he was going to revert back to it over and over no matter if something else worked. That's just the way he rolled...

Lombardi called Jurgensen the best he ever saw. I wonder how he’d play today under the current passer-friendly rules...

(01-31-2019 09:32 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:20 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  McGrath coaching headstone.

"They hit some tough shots".

I know I’ve been a CB defender for the most part up here but that loss is 100% on him. How do you abandon the zone there?!?!?!? I better not hear any darn excuses in the post game. That one is on you buddy.

I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.


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It seemed like the switch was automatic. Didn't see Any signal from CB. They just switched after a play. Do you guys think that's by design?

For the next play, maybe. But to abandon zone the rest of the game when Towson is getting completely shut down? No. Coaches can switch them back any time they want. If I could fire him today, I would. Where's Kelly Mehrten's when we need her?

Bad loss. Nothing more I can say. Zone? Roy rarely plays zone.

(01-31-2019 09:36 PM)82hawk Wrote:  For the next play, maybe. But to abandon zone the rest of the game when Towson is getting completely shut down? No. Coaches can switch them back any time they want. If I could fire him today, I would. Where's Kelly Mehrten's when we need her?

You're getting McGrath at least 2 more years.

In the words of the great philosopher Dave Batista you're going to have to "Deal with it"

(01-31-2019 09:34 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.

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Old 70shawk remembers watching the Washington Redskins play during the George Allen era. Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen were both quarterbacks on those teams. For whatever reason Coach Allen wanted to start Kilmer over Jurgensen.

The Redskins would get into a hole, then Jergensen would get called in and frequently brought them back for the win - and then Allen would go back to Kilmer for the next game. Seemed like the same thing happened over and over and over.

Coach knew what he wanted to do, and he was going to revert back to it over and over no matter if something else worked. That's just the way he rolled...

Word was that it took that long for Jurgenson to sober up from the night before.

(01-31-2019 09:43 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  Bad loss. Nothing more I can say. Zone? Roy rarely plays zone.

UNCW is playing a ZONE where you switch back to M-M after 2 passes.

(01-31-2019 09:56 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:34 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.

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Old 70shawk remembers watching the Washington Redskins play during the George Allen era. Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen were both quarterbacks on those teams. For whatever reason Coach Allen wanted to start Kilmer over Jurgensen.

The Redskins would get into a hole, then Jergensen would get called in and frequently brought them back for the win - and then Allen would go back to Kilmer for the next game. Seemed like the same thing happened over and over and over.

Coach knew what he wanted to do, and he was going to revert back to it over and over no matter if something else worked. That's just the way he rolled...

Word was that it took that long for Jurgenson to sober up from the night before.

Jurgensen drunk was better than Kilmer sober.

(01-31-2019 09:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:36 PM)82hawk Wrote:  For the next play, maybe. But to abandon zone the rest of the game when Towson is getting completely shut down? No. Coaches can switch them back any time they want. If I could fire him today, I would. Where's Kelly Mehrten's when we need her?

You're getting McGrath at least 2 more years.

In the words of the great philosopher Dave Batista you're going to have to "Deal with it"

I think you’re right about McGrath getting 2 more years but I trust Jimmy Bass. If he see a light at the end of the tunnel, then I’m willing to ride this out. Let’s not forget we have a very good AD who has been sought after by rival schools. If a change is needed, he’ll make the right the decision. The mention of Kelly Mehrtens made me cringe.

(01-31-2019 10:06 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:36 PM)82hawk Wrote:  For the next play, maybe. But to abandon zone the rest of the game when Towson is getting completely shut down? No. Coaches can switch them back any time they want. If I could fire him today, I would. Where's Kelly Mehrten's when we need her?

You're getting McGrath at least 2 more years.

In the words of the great philosopher Dave Batista you're going to have to "Deal with it"

I think you’re right about McGrath getting 2 more years but I trust Jimmy Bass. If he see a light at the end of the tunnel, then I’m willing to ride this out. Let’s not forget we have a very good AD who has been sought after by rival schools. If a change is needed, he’ll make the right the decision. The mention of Kelly Mehrtens made me cringe.

That is true. Dean Smith really didnt get going until his 4th year. Im hoping this isnt Buzz 2.0 but man it would be nice to see a little progress instead of regression and a little bit of McGrath showing he is learning and willing to not be set it his ways

(01-31-2019 09:33 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One positive note: Sims was really good. He maniacally attacked the offensive glass, drew a big charge, and on 1 play with the shot clock running down, he got to the rim to draw a foul rather than trying to throw up a 3 or fallaway jumper. Nice game by the freshman.

The negatives are well established in this thread...

Fornes had 19pts in the same amount of time. That is who we really need to be going to. Sims can get his next year, but he is not who we want in the game when we need to win.

(01-31-2019 10:19 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:33 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One positive note: Sims was really good. He maniacally attacked the offensive glass, drew a big charge, and on 1 play with the shot clock running down, he got to the rim to draw a foul rather than trying to throw up a 3 or fallaway jumper. Nice game by the freshman.

The negatives are well established in this thread...

Fornes had 19pts in the same amount of time. That is who we really need to be going to. Sims can get his next year, but he is not who we want in the game when we need to win.

Without Sims tonight we get blown out

(01-31-2019 09:35 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:34 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.

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Old 70shawk remembers watching the Washington Redskins play during the George Allen era. Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen were both quarterbacks of those teams. For whatever reason Coach Allen wanted to start Kilmer over Jurgensen.

The Redskins would get into a hole, then Jergensen would get called in and frequently brought them back for the win - and then Allen would go back to Kilmer for the next game. Seemed like the game thing happened over and over and over.

Coach knew what he wanted to do, and he was going to revert back to it over and over no matter if something else worked. That's just the way he rolled...

Lombardi called Jurgensen the best he ever saw. I wonder how he’d play today under the current passer-friendly rules...

(01-31-2019 10:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 10:19 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:33 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One positive note: Sims was really good. He maniacally attacked the offensive glass, drew a big charge, and on 1 play with the shot clock running down, he got to the rim to draw a foul rather than trying to throw up a 3 or fallaway jumper. Nice game by the freshman.

The negatives are well established in this thread...

Fornes had 19pts in the same amount of time. That is who we really need to be going to. Sims can get his next year, but he is not who we want in the game when we need to win.

Without Sims tonight we get blown out

Possibly.

(01-31-2019 11:12 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:35 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:34 PM)70shawk Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:24 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with you on that. Mind boggling why we switch back to M2M when the zone is successful.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Old 70shawk remembers watching the Washington Redskins play during the George Allen era. Billy Kilmer and Sonny Jurgensen were both quarterbacks of those teams. For whatever reason Coach Allen wanted to start Kilmer over Jurgensen.

The Redskins would get into a hole, then Jergensen would get called in and frequently brought them back for the win - and then Allen would go back to Kilmer for the next game. Seemed like the game thing happened over and over and over.

Coach knew what he wanted to do, and he was going to revert back to it over and over no matter if something else worked. That's just the way he rolled...

Lombardi called Jurgensen the best he ever saw. I wonder how he’d play today under the current passer-friendly rules...

(01-31-2019 10:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 10:19 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:33 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One positive note: Sims was really good. He maniacally attacked the offensive glass, drew a big charge, and on 1 play with the shot clock running down, he got to the rim to draw a foul rather than trying to throw up a 3 or fallaway jumper. Nice game by the freshman.

The negatives are well established in this thread...

Fornes had 19pts in the same amount of time. That is who we really need to be going to. Sims can get his next year, but he is not who we want in the game when we need to win.

Without Sims tonight we get blown out

Possibly.

Sims was solid and is getting better every game. This was Fornes' best game this year. If he keeps playing like tonight, he will get plenty of playing time. That's all on him.

Play both Sims and Fornes together. Fornes, if he continues to play like tonight, is the man at the 2 spot. He defended and I like that. Sims is a no brainer to me because he's the perfect team player that always gives 100% defensively with the right attitude. You have to have a killer at the 2 spot. Fornes has to be a killer which has been his/our downfall. If he brings this every night, we're in good shape. Same for Ty Taylor. Somebody has to be the man. Gadsden can play both positions and works hard defensively so he will get his minutes at both.

Our Hawks are giving it away in the hidden yardage. Out of bounds plays for easy hoops can't happen, ever. The plus minus indicates that O'Connell needs minutes as does Fornes.

To me at this point, it's about who is willing to defend bottom line. That's the difference right now. O'Connell will defend so play him more. Fornes has earned more PT after tonights defensive performance let alone offense. Sims has earned it for a while now and I'm glad that some of you actually are now realizing what I've already noticed. Toews needs to step his defensive game up big time after tonight-he's a freshman and will get stronger because he was bullied. At this level, you have to defend and if you don't you sit down. I'd rather lose a game than to trade at this level. The 2nd half was better overall defensively so it seemed, but now you have a game and we lost at the end.

Situational execution wasn't good at the end. Hawks rushed some shots late when they could have gotten something better. You hope to not be in that situation and hopefully they will learn. You need somebody at the end of the clock that can drive it and get fouled when down 1 or get Cacok an isolation.

I refer you to my Pre-Game Analysis from the other day below where I said in order to win UNCW needed to:

1) Limit Fobbs & Tobias. (They combined for 35 pts)
2) Keep Towson under their average of 33.8% from 3pt. (They were 46.7%)
3) Play ZONE (We did, it was effective and then we stopped in crunch time.)



vs TOWSON: LIMIT FOBBS & HOWARD = WIN

As usual, my analysis is based on relevant games I have watched, my experience (The Naked Eye) and SYNERGY Statistics.

Fobbs & Howard lead almost every offensive statistical category for the Towson Tigers. The lack of balance is the main reason for their record so far. Too easy to game plan and squeeze these 2 with a focused, energetic defense. Two characteristics that the Hawks lack at this point. In fact, SYNERGY now has UNCW's defense rated as #352 out of 353 teams in D1. Yes, you read this correctly. Only the California Golden Bears and the UNCW Seahawks give up MORE than 1.0 Point Per Possession in NCAA D1 basketball.

Guess what is the most glaring weakness? Correct. Opponents have hoisted 540 three point shots and scored 613 points which means 1.13 PPP and an adjusted FG percentage (aFG%) of 57.3%!! It would be an exercise in sado masochism for me to continue pointing out other defensive deficiencies like Pick & Roll Ball handler defense (D1 Rank #337) after mentioning this last stat.

Let's just start there. Try to keep a team like Towson under their average 3pt % (33.8%). Go ahead. I dare you to try that game plan. That would of course require abandoning your weak side sagging defense (not quite 'Pack Line' because I haven't seen any extreme ball pressure unless Gadsen is on the court) that only encourages guys to let their man blow by because 'help is waiting'.

The good news is that the HAWKS offense has improved to where it is now categorized on SYNERGY as 'GOOD'. Which means in the 55th Percentile or rather, a D1 rank of #160. In fact, the only player rated 'BELOW AVERAGE' offensively is Toews unless you include 'Offense + Assists' (Yes, that is an actual category) and then he ranks in the top 200 players out 4053 in D1.

So in summary: Score more points than Towson.....and play ZONE. Even BAD Zone might deliver the win.

Go Hawks!

(01-31-2019 10:06 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:36 PM)82hawk Wrote:  For the next play, maybe. But to abandon zone the rest of the game when Towson is getting completely shut down? No. Coaches can switch them back any time they want. If I could fire him today, I would. Where's Kelly Mehrten's when we need her?

You're getting McGrath at least 2 more years.

In the words of the great philosopher Dave Batista you're going to have to "Deal with it"

I think you’re right about McGrath getting 2 more years but I trust Jimmy Bass. If he see a light at the end of the tunnel, then I’m willing to ride this out. Let’s not forget we have a very good AD who has been sought after by rival schools. If a change is needed, he’ll make the right the decision. The mention of Kelly Mehrtens made me cringe.

It was a joke. She made a mid year coaching change and fired Benny. We are witnessing coaching malpractice at this point. We have a doctor who knows the cure, but refuses to adminster the correct medicine and is allowing the patient to die due to stubborness.

(02-01-2019 05:15 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 10:06 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:55 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-31-2019 09:36 PM)82hawk Wrote:  For the next play, maybe. But to abandon zone the rest of the game when Towson is getting completely shut down? No. Coaches can switch them back any time they want. If I could fire him today, I would. Where's Kelly Mehrten's when we need her?

You're getting McGrath at least 2 more years.

In the words of the great philosopher Dave Batista you're going to have to "Deal with it"

I think you’re right about McGrath getting 2 more years but I trust Jimmy Bass. If he see a light at the end of the tunnel, then I’m willing to ride this out. Let’s not forget we have a very good AD who has been sought after by rival schools. If a change is needed, he’ll make the right the decision. The mention of Kelly Mehrtens made me cringe.

It was a joke. She made a mid year coaching change and fired Benny. We are witnessing coaching malpractice at this point. We have a doctor who knows the cure, but refuses to adminster the correct medicine and is allowing the patient to die due to stubborness.

I would like to just be a 'fan' at this point and root for my team through thick and thin, however, what we are witnessing is unwatchable. Even Gary Miller the 'voice of reason' sounds like his patience is wearing thin. I'm with 82Hawk. Malpractice sounds harsh but the definition is 'professional negligent behavior' which is fairly appropriate when you consider one thing only: Defensive efficiency statistics place us, after today's game, DEAD LAST in the NCAA. #353 out of 353 teams. We are the poster boy for defensive ineptitude after playing 23 games with an IMPROVED roster. That's right. We were BETTER last year!

I just want to hear ONE thing from the Coach's mouth. Why have we not addressed the 3pt defense after being beaten by it again and again? Why do the players close out like it's the last thing on their minds? Why do we give up an adjusted FG efficiency of 57% on 3pt shots this season? Towson shot 57% & 47% from the 2 & 3 today. Towson's offense was ranked #310 before today's game.

I'm sure Jimmy Bass cringes when the HC starts with the same excuse after every game in the Press Conference. "They just hit some tough shots."

People talk a lot on this board, myself included, about switching to zone defense but the larger question is why are we at the point after almost 2 seasons with this staff where incremental man to man defensive improvement is not the norm but we are rather looking for stop gap measures?? We played a 'box & 1' this year. Are we a Mid-Major team looking to move higher or a Low-Major in disguise? Don't rest on Kevin Keatts work and results anymore. This program is going in the opposite direction.

Time to address the 'Elephant in the Room' UNCW or you will be facing some bigger problems in the next two years when it comes to recruits and transfers.

"Yeah, we might be ranked last in D1 in defense but we have a great beach!"

(02-01-2019 05:54 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  I'm sure Jimmy Bass cringes when the HC starts with the same excuse after every game in the Press Conference. "They just hit some tough shots."

Nice call! You only have to watch 20 seconds into the post game interview to hear the magic words!