(01-21-2019 09:27 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-21-2019 05:46 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 11:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  How would you extrapolate that out further? The SEC would need to backfill.

Mizzou—>PAC
NCState—> SEC
WVU—> ACC

SEC
West: Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Alabama, Auburn
East: Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, NC State.

XII
West: Iowa St, Kansas St, Oklahoma St, TTU, TCU, Baylor.
East: Houston, Memphis, Cincinnati, UConn, Central Florida, South Florida

ACC:
WVU to Coastal, GT to Atlantic.

LOL. Mizzou is going to trade the SEC for the PAC??

Just think Larry had his hands on the Texoma 4 and settled for Utah. I guess it gave the Utes a lifeline.

I think the PAC should give Houston a lifeline as well. Big market, sold out stadium

The PAC16 was never that close to happening because
1) UT wanted unequal revenue sharing and their own network the whole time, but only made that demand once things got serious.
2) PAC presidents wanted no part of Oklahoma State

Scott's mistake was not entertaining UT's proposal for unequal revenue and the LHN. If the PAC yields to those demands, then in turn the PAC demands better partners; no TTu and OKSU tag-alongs. That's my premise.

Should have added that the PAC buys and adopts the WAC name. The new *WAC* is really three conferences merged: the PAC as its western division and a WAC (ASU, AZ, Utah) + Big8 (KU, Mizzou, OU, CU) hybrid headlined by UT as its eastern division. Mizzou is lost in the SEC untethered from its historic rivals. KU, Mizzou, CU, OU, UT, UU, AZ, ASU would give them a more sustainable platform for competition.

(01-16-2019 02:37 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  The American Athletic Conference would virtually be the same as it is now, except we would've retained Power status when the CFP went into effect.

I could live with that. Just wish the schools weren't so spaced out that would allow for more travel to away games.

(01-22-2019 08:40 AM)jrj84105 Wrote:  

(01-21-2019 09:27 PM)P5PACSEC Wrote:  

(01-21-2019 05:46 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  

(01-20-2019 11:20 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  How would you extrapolate that out further? The SEC would need to backfill.

Mizzou—>PAC
NCState—> SEC
WVU—> ACC

SEC
West: Texas A&M, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Alabama, Auburn
East: Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, NC State.

XII
West: Iowa St, Kansas St, Oklahoma St, TTU, TCU, Baylor.
East: Houston, Memphis, Cincinnati, UConn, Central Florida, South Florida

ACC:
WVU to Coastal, GT to Atlantic.

LOL. Mizzou is going to trade the SEC for the PAC??

Just think Larry had his hands on the Texoma 4 and settled for Utah. I guess it gave the Utes a lifeline.

I think the PAC should give Houston a lifeline as well. Big market, sold out stadium

The PAC16 was never that close to happening because
1) UT wanted unequal revenue sharing and their own network the whole time, but only made that demand once things got serious.
2) PAC presidents wanted no part of Oklahoma State

Scott's mistake was not entertaining UT's proposal for unequal revenue and the LHN. If the PAC yields to those demands, then in turn the PAC demands better partners; no TTu and OKSU tag-alongs. That's my premise.

Should have added that the PAC buys and adopts the WAC name. The new *WAC* is really three conferences merged: the PAC as its western division and a WAC (ASU, AZ, Utah) + Big8 (KU, Mizzou, OU, CU) hybrid headlined by UT as its eastern division. Mizzou is lost in the SEC untethered from its historic rivals. KU, Mizzou, CU, OU, UT, UU, AZ, ASU would give them a more sustainable platform for competition.

Fortunately, you have no say. Larry Scott visited Lubbock with an invitation in hand.

Utah only got in when UT said thanks but no thanks.

(01-21-2019 08:55 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Realistic Option:
The CAA adds UNCG and Stony Brook and splits into two 6 team North/South divisions playing 16 conference games. This would require only 3 trips above/below the MasonDixon line for each school per year. One of those trips could be accomplished in one swoop as there are natural travel partners. If the NCAA allows 14 games then that would work as well and would be preferred.

Basically since a split is not realistic due to NCAA rules, treat it as much as two separate conferences that share an auto bid

Northern schools would either do a swing in Greensboro or the Charleston/Wilmington combo, doing the VA schools individually

Southern schools would either do a swing in NY or Phily, doing Northeastern or Towson individually

A southern division tournament and a northern division tournament would be hosted by the divison champion in early week 1 of championship week. The two winners would play at the home court of the winner with the highest NET ranking in week 2 of championship week for the auto bid.

This seems like a sound move. It's a very large footprint for an East Coast Conference. Regional groupings would be more suitable. Fairfield should als be considered as the northern add.

The Big XXI:

Atlantic: BC, Cuse, Penn St, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, ND
Central: Ohio St, Mich, Mich St, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, N'western
Plains: Wisconsin, Minn, Iowa, Iowa St, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma

(01-23-2019 09:07 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The Big XXI:

Atlantic: BC, Cuse, Penn St, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, ND
Central: Ohio St, Mich, Mich St, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, N'western
Plains: Wisconsin, Minn, Iowa, Iowa St, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma

Would theis league still be called the BIG 10

If I was the MVC czar, I would boot Loyola, Evansville and Valpo. Add North Dakota State, South Dakota State and Murray State.

(01-08-2019 11:00 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 09:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Drop the schools who started football in the last few years and have no business in the FBS: Georgia State, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama

Drop the schools who have had football teams but have historically struggled: TXST and ULM

Replace them with CUSA schools looking to get off that sinking ship: Marshall, USM, ODU, UAB, and La Tech

New Sun Belt: ODU, Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, Troy, UAB, USM, Arkansas State, UL Lafayette, La Tech

That........ would not be terrible.

We will NEVER be in a conference with Troy State.

(01-24-2019 02:01 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 09:07 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The Big XXI:

Atlantic: BC, Cuse, Penn St, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, ND
Central: Ohio St, Mich, Mich St, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, N'western
Plains: Wisconsin, Minn, Iowa, Iowa St, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma

Would theis league still be called the BIG 10

Probably but I'd love to see them hide the number 21 in the logo somewhere.

(01-24-2019 02:22 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  If I was the MVC czar, I would boot Loyola, Evansville and Valpo. Add North Dakota State, South Dakota State and Murray State.

It would be interesting to see the 5 public schools pull out of the MVC to join the Summit.

The Summit would then do their best to make PUFW and ORU leave to end up at 12 members.

If You Could Change Anything About Your Team’s Current Conference...

Require all Big East schools to play football. (Three down, seven to go.)

(01-24-2019 02:22 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  If I was the MVC czar, I would boot Loyola, Evansville and Valpo. Add North Dakota State, South Dakota State and Murray State.

I believe that when Creighton left that had the Valley tried they could have found 8-9 FBS schools to join and become an FBS league.

(01-24-2019 02:22 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  If I was the MVC czar, I would boot Loyola, Evansville and Valpo. Add North Dakota State, South Dakota State and Murray State.

I have tried to refrain from responding to any posts on here because it is about what the poster would like and not about real life, but I will make an extremely rare exception and actually comment for once: even though Loyola started out shaky, they have proven themselves in gold, IMO, with their recent past performances. Loyola deserves to stay, IMO.

(01-24-2019 04:29 PM)HellBlazer Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 11:00 AM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  

(01-08-2019 09:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Drop the schools who started football in the last few years and have no business in the FBS: Georgia State, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama

Drop the schools who have had football teams but have historically struggled: TXST and ULM

Replace them with CUSA schools looking to get off that sinking ship: Marshall, USM, ODU, UAB, and La Tech

New Sun Belt: ODU, Marshall, App State, Georgia Southern, Troy, UAB, USM, Arkansas State, UL Lafayette, La Tech

That........ would not be terrible.

We will NEVER be in a conference with Troy State.

Suit yourselves. We Trojans actually prefer being with South Alabama, thank you.

(01-24-2019 02:01 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 09:07 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The Big XXI:

Atlantic: BC, Cuse, Penn St, Pitt, Maryland, Rutgers, ND
Central: Ohio St, Mich, Mich St, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, N'western
Plains: Wisconsin, Minn, Iowa, Iowa St, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma

Would this league still be called the BIG 10

Certainly ... and with more credibility than at any time in its history. I remember the days of the Big 2 and Little 8, but that lineup is getting pretty close to having 10 Big schools in it.

Atlantic Sun Conference 2020
Liberty
Lipscomb
North Alabama
Kennesaw St.
North Florida
Jacksonville
Stetson
Florida Gulf Coast
NJIT
Bellarmine U.
College of Charleston
North Carolina A&T
UNC Wilmington
Winthrop

AAC 2025
UCF
USF
ECU
Cincinnati
Temple
UConn
Liberty
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Tulane
Memphis
Navy
Army

(01-21-2019 08:55 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Realistic Option:
The CAA adds UNCG and Stony Brook and splits into two 6 team North/South divisions playing 16 conference games. This would require only 3 trips above/below the MasonDixon line for each school per year. One of those trips could be accomplished in one swoop as there are natural travel partners. If the NCAA allows 14 games then that would work as well and would be preferred.

Basically since a split is not realistic due to NCAA rules, treat it as much as two separate conferences that share an auto bid

Northern schools would either do a swing in Greensboro or the Charleston/Wilmington combo, doing the VA schools individually

Southern schools would either do a swing in NY or Phily, doing Northeastern or Towson individually

A southern division tournament and a northern division tournament would be hosted by the divison champion in early week 1 of championship week. The two winners would play at the home court of the winner with the highest NET ranking in week 2 of championship week for the auto bid.

This would make a lot of sense for a league as large as the CAA.

CAA North:

Northeastern
Stony Brook
Hofstra
Drexel
Delaware
Towson

CAA South:

William and Mary
JMU
Elon
UNCG
UNCW
College of Charleston

If JMU leaves, you could replace them with somebody like a Hampton or maybe a southern school (like Mercer, Furman or North Florida).

(01-27-2019 09:46 AM)army56mike Wrote:  AAC 2025
UCF
USF
ECU
Cincinnati
Temple
UConn
Liberty
Houston
SMU
Tulsa
Tulane
Memphis
Navy
Army

USFFan

Temple goes with Cincinnati, UConn, and Memphis to join with UMass, Old Dominion, Marshall, Buffalo, URI (basketball), VCU (basketball), Army & Navy football. Potential expansion to JMU & Delaware. Dream non P5

Wake Forest converts to Lutheranism, and the Big East declares this is"close enough" to Catholicism to warrant an invite to that conference. Wake exits the ACC without an ugly struggle and West Virginia is invited to backfill them.