(01-07-2019 07:35 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: (01-07-2019 07:13 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (01-07-2019 07:10 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: Idc where you fall on border security, putting a wall up won’t stop anything. Physical barriers can easily be overcome and are ineffective. The only surefire way to seal an open border would be to mine it but I doubt private land owners would like that.
Patton suggested that fortifications were monuments to the stupidity of man.
Just curious...
Why do we have walls around prisons?
I don't pretend to be an expert, but I would guess that the answer to your question is one of scale. Walling in a 50-acre prison compound is an entirely different thing than walling off a 2,000-mile border.
Jared is right. The wall is not an effective solution.
What we instead need is the resolve to put a stop to any giveaways to non-citizens. Our taxpayers are NOT responsible for the feeding, clothing, housing, education and healthcare of the millions unfortunate enough to have been born elsewhere and not otherwise eligible to legally immigrate. (If Bette Midler wants to take responsibility for lifting up others, she is welcome to do so - - with HER money.)
Stop the irresponsible plundering of the American taxpayer, close the publicly funded schools, hospitals and breadlines to all but actual citizens, and the illegal hordes will (to revive a weasly Romney term) self-deport.
Will it happen instantly? No. But in the long run it will be far more effective than the simplistic Trump approach.
Uhhhhh,
Most unfortunately, you are basically wrong.
The fence jumpers land on American soil we ARE "responsible" for their housing, education, clothing, food, childcare, flip-flops, hair curlers an likely cable bills.
Show me where I'm wrong. please.
If walls don't work... then what's the objection? In 5 years we'll tear it down and sell it for scrap. 5bb is a nickel in this insanity today, so let's roll the dice and see?
Methinks the biggest objection is that
it may well work, then where will all the "compassionate" leftists (those defecating and littering the streets of our city's) and the Chamber of Commerce fools, go to hide?
We've taken faaaaaaaar bigger risks than 5bb before (Solyndra, Govt motors, etc., anyone?) so if a physical barrier doesn't somehow work, we tear it down.
Taking ALL bets on it working. When hasn't it? As the open borders crowd leftists like to say, a 4th century solution...
Uhhhh, yea. Cause it's work for 1600 years. Tell me where and when it hasn't.
Thx.