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RE: Illinois State? What?!
(01-02-2019 09:14 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
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(01-01-2019 01:59 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It's just depressing when you play your home opener against ISU, and it's one of our few home games for the entire year. Seems like our fans are satisfied with it though. I thought when Frazier said FCS route is where he wanted to go that he would get some resistance from fans. That is obviously not the case. Heck the way NIU is trajecting under Carey, I may have to concede FCS does make sense. I have pretty much given up. One advantage is that it would allow more resources and fan focus to go to basketball, which in the long run is probably more sustainable

Frazier never said anything about NIU in the FCS, what planet do you live on?

He did actually, he said he wanted a playoff system to break away from the P5s, with a lower division

That’s not what he said. His idea was to create a G5 playoff to create an automatic qualifier to the FBS playoff because the current system will never allow a G5 into the playoff. You never allow facts to get in the way of your agenda.

I don't recall the part about the G5 playoff winner getting an AQ for the FBS playoff. I don't even see how that would work, as that would be a lot of games.

I got the impression it was just a separate G5 playoff.

I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.
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(01-01-2019 08:39 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  Considering going to Vanderbilt. Absolutely a terrific city to vist, but, the game being on Friday makes it more complicated.

Do you know for sure it is a Friday? In the release Vanderbilt put out for its 2019 schedule it says Saturday. I was looking at hitting this game as well.

https://vucommodores.com/news/2018/9/17/...edule.aspx
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(01-02-2019 05:39 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 08:39 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  Considering going to Vanderbilt. Absolutely a terrific city to vist, but, the game being on Friday makes it more complicated.

Do you know for sure it is a Friday? In the release Vanderbilt put out for its 2019 schedule it says Saturday. I was looking at hitting this game as well.

https://vucommodores.com/news/2018/9/17/...edule.aspx

This link has it as Friday but I'd assume Vanderbilt's release is correct. Maybe just a typo on the date by the website.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-illinois/
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(01-02-2019 04:57 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
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(01-01-2019 02:47 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  Frazier never said anything about NIU in the FCS, what planet do you live on?

He did actually, he said he wanted a playoff system to break away from the P5s, with a lower division

That’s not what he said. His idea was to create a G5 playoff to create an automatic qualifier to the FBS playoff because the current system will never allow a G5 into the playoff. You never allow facts to get in the way of your agenda.

I don't recall the part about the G5 playoff winner getting an AQ for the FBS playoff. I don't even see how that would work, as that would be a lot of games.

I got the impression it was just a separate G5 playoff.

I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.

I don't know if I'm the only guy on the Pound who could give a rat's ass about the P5 playoff and watching Alabama vs. Clemson yet again (which I won't), but to me a G5 playoff would be outstanding. Taking Randy's comment one step further, done right I think it would stir up a lot of interest in the G5 conferences and teams among G5 fans who right now have no shot at watching their team in the P5 playoff system and are stuck with random, meaningless bowl games. Make it an 8-team playoff--champ of each conference plus three at large teams--and go for it. I don't care who they put in the other bowl games. Imagine a playoff with Boise, UAB, UCF, FAU, NIU, Memphis, Ohio, and Arkansas State. I'd tune in with great interest. Also, it really doesn't create another level--let's face it, there already are two levels in the FBS. And since they didn't know what to call the non-P5 schools they dubbed us the "Group of 5." How demeaning. I'm all in for a G5 playoff. Would be great!
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(01-02-2019 05:51 PM)UIHuskie Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 05:39 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 08:39 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  Considering going to Vanderbilt. Absolutely a terrific city to vist, but, the game being on Friday makes it more complicated.

Do you know for sure it is a Friday? In the release Vanderbilt put out for its 2019 schedule it says Saturday. I was looking at hitting this game as well.

https://vucommodores.com/news/2018/9/17/...edule.aspx

This link has it as Friday but I'd assume Vanderbilt's release is correct. Maybe just a typo on the date by the website.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/northern-illinois/

Yeah I bet a typo. Highly doubt an SEC team playing on Friday in September
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RE: Illinois State? What?!
(01-02-2019 08:08 PM)HW58 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 04:57 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 09:14 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 05:48 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 02:50 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  He did actually, he said he wanted a playoff system to break away from the P5s, with a lower division

That’s not what he said. His idea was to create a G5 playoff to create an automatic qualifier to the FBS playoff because the current system will never allow a G5 into the playoff. You never allow facts to get in the way of your agenda.

I don't recall the part about the G5 playoff winner getting an AQ for the FBS playoff. I don't even see how that would work, as that would be a lot of games.

I got the impression it was just a separate G5 playoff.

I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.

I don't know if I'm the only guy on the Pound who could give a rat's ass about the P5 playoff and watching Alabama vs. Clemson yet again (which I won't), but to me a G5 playoff would be outstanding. Taking Randy's comment one step further, done right I think it would stir up a lot of interest in the G5 conferences and teams among G5 fans who right now have no shot at watching their team in the P5 playoff system and are stuck with random, meaningless bowl games. Make it an 8-team playoff--champ of each conference plus three at large teams--and go for it. I don't care who they put in the other bowl games. Imagine a playoff with Boise, UAB, UCF, FAU, NIU, Memphis, Ohio, and Arkansas State. I'd tune in with great interest. Also, it really doesn't create another level--let's face it, there already are two levels in the FBS. And since they didn't know what to call the non-P5 schools they dubbed us the "Group of 5." How demeaning. I'm all in for a G5 playoff. Would be great!

You’re not alone. I think a G5 playoff could be fun and forward thinking. All the G5’s are really playing for is a fabricated co-national championship such as the one UCF was awarded last season(that no one really believes). That’s the absolute best case scenario. The only way NIU gets into a real P5 playoff is an expanded format of 16 teams. And here’s the problem with that.... teams such as NIU only have one miracle game in them. Theoretically they could beat any team given some amazing circumstances in any one game scenario. But in the expanded playoff they’d require, they’d need 4 miracle games in a row. Never gonna happen.

The entire crux of a G5 playoff would be based on viewership. So they’d have to make it more appealing than those lousy bowls. Here’s one way:

First, hold round one in only two locations. Say Lucas oil in Indy and any southern stadium. Make it as geographically accessible to the teams involved. Have 2 games Friday night and 2 games Saturday. There could be ticket scenarios that allow you to attend multiple games to boost attendance. Weekend long football party time.

Second, invite some P5s.(just wait. I know this isn’t a g5 playoff then) This idea came to me when a previous poster mentioned the NIT comparison. Why would P5s forgo a bowl for a G5 playoff? Probably the same reason college basketball teams who don’t make the big dance accept NIT bids. More games. More money. Not to mention there’s already a few P5/G5 bowl match ups and P5 teams will bring greater viewer numbers and attendance.

Third, you don’t call it a G5 playoff. It really is. But you don’t call it that. That label isn’t marketable. And the truth is, no one really cares who is the best G5 team. The only goal here is to make it marketable.

This scenario is about as likely as NIU making the current playoff format, I know. But there has to be some kind of playoff format that should give teams like NIU a real hope for real post season play. And maybe more importantly, hope for the fans.
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(01-01-2019 02:19 PM)Max Power Wrote:  When did Frazier say he wanted to go FCS??

North Dakota State would be an excellent addition for the MAC. They’d be the heavy favorites off the bat.

the MAC is beneath ndsu. I think if they jump mountain west would make sense.
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(01-02-2019 08:08 PM)HW58 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 04:57 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 09:14 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 05:48 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 02:50 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  He did actually, he said he wanted a playoff system to break away from the P5s, with a lower division

That’s not what he said. His idea was to create a G5 playoff to create an automatic qualifier to the FBS playoff because the current system will never allow a G5 into the playoff. You never allow facts to get in the way of your agenda.

I don't recall the part about the G5 playoff winner getting an AQ for the FBS playoff. I don't even see how that would work, as that would be a lot of games.

I got the impression it was just a separate G5 playoff.

I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.

I don't know if I'm the only guy on the Pound who could give a rat's ass about the P5 playoff and watching Alabama vs. Clemson yet again (which I won't), but to me a G5 playoff would be outstanding. Taking Randy's comment one step further, done right I think it would stir up a lot of interest in the G5 conferences and teams among G5 fans who right now have no shot at watching their team in the P5 playoff system and are stuck with random, meaningless bowl games. Make it an 8-team playoff--champ of each conference plus three at large teams--and go for it. I don't care who they put in the other bowl games. Imagine a playoff with Boise, UAB, UCF, FAU, NIU, Memphis, Ohio, and Arkansas State. I'd tune in with great interest. Also, it really doesn't create another level--let's face it, there already are two levels in the FBS. And since they didn't know what to call the non-P5 schools they dubbed us the "Group of 5." How demeaning. I'm all in for a G5 playoff. Would be great!

Illinois State fan here, looking forward to a great game this fall. Posted on here before about my daughter choosing colleges and her interest in NIU, so believe me I’m no troll. Just looking to engage in witty sports talk.

That being said....RUN as far away from the idea of a G5 playoff. It sounds great on paper, but as a fan of a school that finished as runner up to NDSU in the FCS Championship, I was in Dallas/Frisco that year and ALL of the talk was about the OTHER game being played in Dallas that week Ohio State vs Oregon.

To be honest, If my team isn’t playing I have little interest in watching the FCS Championship game on a Saturday afternoon. The time slot sucked, the broadcasters couldn’t stop talking about the OTHER championship game. You get my point.

Take the bowl games, the oft chance you catch lightning in a bottle run the tables to set up a NYE/NYD bowl game.

It’s where I would rather see Illinois State to be honest.
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(01-06-2019 10:08 AM)CIDadof2 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 08:08 PM)HW58 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 04:57 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 09:14 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(01-01-2019 05:48 PM)niu1980 Wrote:  That’s not what he said. His idea was to create a G5 playoff to create an automatic qualifier to the FBS playoff because the current system will never allow a G5 into the playoff. You never allow facts to get in the way of your agenda.

I don't recall the part about the G5 playoff winner getting an AQ for the FBS playoff. I don't even see how that would work, as that would be a lot of games.

I got the impression it was just a separate G5 playoff.

I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.

I don't know if I'm the only guy on the Pound who could give a rat's ass about the P5 playoff and watching Alabama vs. Clemson yet again (which I won't), but to me a G5 playoff would be outstanding. Taking Randy's comment one step further, done right I think it would stir up a lot of interest in the G5 conferences and teams among G5 fans who right now have no shot at watching their team in the P5 playoff system and are stuck with random, meaningless bowl games. Make it an 8-team playoff--champ of each conference plus three at large teams--and go for it. I don't care who they put in the other bowl games. Imagine a playoff with Boise, UAB, UCF, FAU, NIU, Memphis, Ohio, and Arkansas State. I'd tune in with great interest. Also, it really doesn't create another level--let's face it, there already are two levels in the FBS. And since they didn't know what to call the non-P5 schools they dubbed us the "Group of 5." How demeaning. I'm all in for a G5 playoff. Would be great!

Illinois State fan here, looking forward to a great game this fall. Posted on here before about my daughter choosing colleges and her interest in NIU, so believe me I’m no troll. Just looking to engage in witty sports talk.

That being said....RUN as far away from the idea of a G5 playoff. It sounds great on paper, but as a fan of a school that finished as runner up to NDSU in the FCS Championship, I was in Dallas/Frisco that year and ALL of the talk was about the OTHER game being played in Dallas that week Ohio State vs Oregon.

To be honest, If my team isn’t playing I have little interest in watching the FCS Championship game on a Saturday afternoon. The time slot sucked, the broadcasters couldn’t stop talking about the OTHER championship game. You get my point.

Take the bowl games, the oft chance you catch lightning in a bottle run the tables to set up a NYE/NYD bowl game.

It’s where I would rather see Illinois State to be honest.

To be fair that was in 2014 and it was the first year of the FBS playoff format AND it was in the same state. I know it’s annoying being overlooked for those prime time schools, we get that enough here, but that instance was under special circumstances.

I would love ISU to join the MAC. It’s unfortunate that Illinois has only 3 fbs schools. Indiana has 4, Michigan 5 and Ohio 6. Though it’s even more odd that Wisconsin has only 1 FBs program. Must be because there’s more universities than Starbucks up there. The MAC could drop Buffalo and Akron and add ISU and NDSU.
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(01-06-2019 11:01 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(01-06-2019 10:08 AM)CIDadof2 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 08:08 PM)HW58 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 04:57 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 09:14 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  I don't recall the part about the G5 playoff winner getting an AQ for the FBS playoff. I don't even see how that would work, as that would be a lot of games.

I got the impression it was just a separate G5 playoff.

I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.

I don't know if I'm the only guy on the Pound who could give a rat's ass about the P5 playoff and watching Alabama vs. Clemson yet again (which I won't), but to me a G5 playoff would be outstanding. Taking Randy's comment one step further, done right I think it would stir up a lot of interest in the G5 conferences and teams among G5 fans who right now have no shot at watching their team in the P5 playoff system and are stuck with random, meaningless bowl games. Make it an 8-team playoff--champ of each conference plus three at large teams--and go for it. I don't care who they put in the other bowl games. Imagine a playoff with Boise, UAB, UCF, FAU, NIU, Memphis, Ohio, and Arkansas State. I'd tune in with great interest. Also, it really doesn't create another level--let's face it, there already are two levels in the FBS. And since they didn't know what to call the non-P5 schools they dubbed us the "Group of 5." How demeaning. I'm all in for a G5 playoff. Would be great!

Illinois State fan here, looking forward to a great game this fall. Posted on here before about my daughter choosing colleges and her interest in NIU, so believe me I’m no troll. Just looking to engage in witty sports talk.

That being said....RUN as far away from the idea of a G5 playoff. It sounds great on paper, but as a fan of a school that finished as runner up to NDSU in the FCS Championship, I was in Dallas/Frisco that year and ALL of the talk was about the OTHER game being played in Dallas that week Ohio State vs Oregon.

To be honest, If my team isn’t playing I have little interest in watching the FCS Championship game on a Saturday afternoon. The time slot sucked, the broadcasters couldn’t stop talking about the OTHER championship game. You get my point.

Take the bowl games, the oft chance you catch lightning in a bottle run the tables to set up a NYE/NYD bowl game.

It’s where I would rather see Illinois State to be honest.

To be fair that was in 2014 and it was the first year of the FBS playoff format AND it was in the same state. I know it’s annoying being overlooked for those prime time schools, we get that enough here, but that instance was under special circumstances.

I would love ISU to join the MAC. It’s unfortunate that Illinois has only 3 fbs schools. Indiana has 4, Michigan 5 and Ohio 6. Though it’s even more odd that Wisconsin has only 1 FBs program. Must be because there’s more universities than Starbucks up there. The MAC could drop Buffalo and Akron and add ISU and NDSU.

I agree. Would love for ISU to join the MAC. That would give NIU and actual in-state rival. It makes no sense for the league to have 6 ohio schools, nor does it make sense for emu to be fbs in the parking lot of UoM.

By the way, Ohio has 8 fbs schools.
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(01-06-2019 12:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(01-06-2019 11:01 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(01-06-2019 10:08 AM)CIDadof2 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 08:08 PM)HW58 Wrote:  
(01-02-2019 04:57 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  I think it would be more like an NIT in basketball.

Which, if you think about it and "if" done the right way, might work.

But you would have to convince them to can the current system of bowl invites or make them open to non qualifiers other than NYD or potential big boy playoff. But I think that's where they would hope to succeed. While an 8 team playoff is nice to crown the NIT type champ you aren't going to have the rest turn down the crappy bowls and moreover these cities want the less of the lessers. You would do away with the conf championship and take divisions champs (would need to eliminate one conf likely) and seed them.

Won't happen but the notion can't be any more obscure than "sometimes" letting a G5 time play on NYD, never getting a shot at a title and many (usually MAC)playing their bowl games far from home in front of empty stadiums.

I don't know if I'm the only guy on the Pound who could give a rat's ass about the P5 playoff and watching Alabama vs. Clemson yet again (which I won't), but to me a G5 playoff would be outstanding. Taking Randy's comment one step further, done right I think it would stir up a lot of interest in the G5 conferences and teams among G5 fans who right now have no shot at watching their team in the P5 playoff system and are stuck with random, meaningless bowl games. Make it an 8-team playoff--champ of each conference plus three at large teams--and go for it. I don't care who they put in the other bowl games. Imagine a playoff with Boise, UAB, UCF, FAU, NIU, Memphis, Ohio, and Arkansas State. I'd tune in with great interest. Also, it really doesn't create another level--let's face it, there already are two levels in the FBS. And since they didn't know what to call the non-P5 schools they dubbed us the "Group of 5." How demeaning. I'm all in for a G5 playoff. Would be great!

Illinois State fan here, looking forward to a great game this fall. Posted on here before about my daughter choosing colleges and her interest in NIU, so believe me I’m no troll. Just looking to engage in witty sports talk.

That being said....RUN as far away from the idea of a G5 playoff. It sounds great on paper, but as a fan of a school that finished as runner up to NDSU in the FCS Championship, I was in Dallas/Frisco that year and ALL of the talk was about the OTHER game being played in Dallas that week Ohio State vs Oregon.

To be honest, If my team isn’t playing I have little interest in watching the FCS Championship game on a Saturday afternoon. The time slot sucked, the broadcasters couldn’t stop talking about the OTHER championship game. You get my point.

Take the bowl games, the oft chance you catch lightning in a bottle run the tables to set up a NYE/NYD bowl game.

It’s where I would rather see Illinois State to be honest.

To be fair that was in 2014 and it was the first year of the FBS playoff format AND it was in the same state. I know it’s annoying being overlooked for those prime time schools, we get that enough here, but that instance was under special circumstances.

I would love ISU to join the MAC. It’s unfortunate that Illinois has only 3 fbs schools. Indiana has 4, Michigan 5 and Ohio 6. Though it’s even more odd that Wisconsin has only 1 FBs program. Must be because there’s more universities than Starbucks up there. The MAC could drop Buffalo and Akron and add ISU and NDSU.

I agree. Would love for ISU to join the MAC. That would give NIU and actual in-state rival. It makes no sense for the league to have 6 ohio schools, nor does it make sense for emu to be fbs in the parking lot of UoM.

By the way, Ohio has 8 fbs schools.

No thanks to ISU in the MAC, or anywhere else in the FBS. Prefer NIU being the only other big program in the state outside of the Pig10.

Why water down Chicago recruiting further, why water down our local coverage further....
(This post was last modified: 01-06-2019 07:44 PM by NIUfilmmaker.)
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