(11-15-2018 02:00 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

Last season we only won five games. This season we have six with one to go. No improvement over 2015. That's the harsh reality.

CC is a good man. Still, it's about time to win a division title at least.

As for attendance, it's awful. We sell season tickets to people who never pick them up and then brag about ticket sales.

I purchase season tickets, I went to 50% of the home games. Attendance still needs to improve but not has bad as previous years. Consider the first two wins over P5 schools in the history of the program, the first bowl game since the California bowl. Every one of your comments is colored with the knowledge that you aren't happy that some sports were eliminated and football yet somehow remained. And yet it only doesn't remain its actually doing very well by historical standards.

"No improvement over 2015. That's the harsh reality."

This is disordered thinking. First, there are quantifiable improvements to football performance in 2018 v 2015 (in game statistics, W vs strength of schedule). Second, that every year has to be better than some other benchmark year is impossible. This 'what have you done for me lately' attitude is why good coaches get run out of town. If you believe this, then you believe that Toledo was on the verge of firing Matt Campbell, or that Ohio and Duke should Solich and Cutcliffe.

TL;DR Malarkey

(11-15-2018 02:22 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 02:00 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

Last season we only won five games. This season we have six with one to go. No improvement over 2015. That's the harsh reality.

CC is a good man. Still, it's about time to win a division title at least.

As for attendance, it's awful. We sell season tickets to people who never pick them up and then brag about ticket sales.

I purchase season tickets, I went to 50% of the home games. Attendance still needs to improve but not has bad as previous years. Consider the first two wins over P5 schools in the history of the program, the first bowl game since the California bowl. Every one of your comments is colored with the knowledge that you aren't happy that some sports were eliminated and football yet somehow remained. And yet it only doesn't remain its actually doing very well by historical standards.

The Bahamas Bowl is not the Cal Bowl. The BB was a nice game for a better than average team. The CB was for league champions.

We do not need to drop football. It's ridiculous to think that better administration and support for all sports equates to a desire to drop football.

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

Deeply appreciated post, Sir. We all can speculate on what matters to recruits and their families but you shared some empirical evidence that is indeed refreshing and insightful.

(11-15-2018 03:35 PM)masttg Wrote:  "No improvement over 2015. That's the harsh reality."

This is disordered thinking. First, there are quantifiable improvements to football performance in 2018 v 2015 (in game statistics, W vs strength of schedule). Second, that every year has to be better than some other benchmark year is impossible. This 'what have you done for me lately' attitude is why good coaches get run out of town. If you believe this, then you believe that Toledo was on the verge of firing Matt Campbell, or that Ohio and Duke should Solich and Cutcliffe.

TL;DR Malarkey

We are returning contributors on both sides of the field. Senior QB, RB, 5(!) WRs, lots of play makers on defense.

EMU 100% is a team that is going to compete for a MAC West Division Title next year and a trip to Detroit for the conference championship.

Right now is the best I've felt about this program since 07 when I first showed up on campus as a freshman.

Too bad we let NIU off the hook

(11-15-2018 02:00 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

Last season we only won five games. This season we have six with one to go. No improvement over 2015. That's the harsh reality.

CC is a good man. Still, it's about time to win a division title at least.

As for attendance, it's awful. We sell season tickets to people who never pick them up and then brag about ticket sales.

In 2015 we were 1-11. I will give you a pass and assume you actually meant 2016. We were very fortunate that year, winning close games and we lost four games where the game was indeed over at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Since then we have competed in EVERY game we have played and while I bemoan all the close losses, we have definitely improved and the games have been incredibly exciting. I'm with Tom on his assessment of the program.

If all athletic programs scrutinized their program leader like you do with Creighton there certainly would be carnage with respect to college football coaching jobs. The Big Ten has 12 coaches who are not in their first year and using your standards, at least 8 of them should be looking for a job.

(11-15-2018 06:46 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 02:00 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

Last season we only won five games. This season we have six with one to go. No improvement over 2015. That's the harsh reality.

CC is a good man. Still, it's about time to win a division title at least.

As for attendance, it's awful. We sell season tickets to people who never pick them up and then brag about ticket sales.

In 2015 we were 1-11. I will give you a pass and assume you actually meant 2016. We were very fortunate that year, winning close games and we lost four games where the game was indeed over at the beginning of the fourth quarter. Since then we have competed in EVERY game we have played and while I bemoan all the close losses, we have definitely improved and the games have been incredibly exciting. I'm with Tom on his assessment of the program.

If all athletic programs scrutinized their program leader like you do with Creighton there certainly would be carnage with respect to college football coaching jobs. The Big Ten has 12 coaches who are not in their first year and using your standards, at least 8 of them should be looking for a job.

Yes, I meant 2016. Thanks.

Five seasons is not an unreasonable amount of time to expect more wins than we've seen. I think that's fair even given the difficult circumstances.

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

The story of life is to get people not to quit when they are on the cusp of winning.

We're winning and building. Stay the course.

Official visits will occur again starting in what three weeks.

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

Apologize yourself for turning these things personal.

(11-16-2018 02:25 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

Apologize yourself for turning these things personal.

Go back up and re-read cidbearit's comments.....I bet he takes it 'personal' as well.

2 major reasons that his son chose EMU were Creighton, and facilities enhancements.

You think Creighton hasn't won enough, and makes too much money.
You think the facilities are just fine, and the current improvements are a waste of money.

Your thinking will never yield a Championship football program, so expect continued pushback as long as you continue that type of talk, on this type of board.

Don't take it 'personal'.

(11-16-2018 10:07 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 02:25 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 08:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Here I will make it simple, actual people in the seats have increased slowly but surely under CC's tenure, season ticket sales have increased as well regardless whether they show up for all games or not. Our football program is on the upswing especially the past three seasons and is no longer non-competitive. Those are amazing accomplishments considering the starting point. All of this was done with hard roll up the sleeves work by CC, his strength staff, coaching staff and players and didn't happen overnight. If you call yourself an EMU fan and can't be proud of their accomplishments you don't need to be here. My half cent and you can keep the change.

And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

Apologize yourself for turning these things personal.

Go back up and re-read cidbearit's comments.....I bet he takes it 'personal' as well.

2 major reasons that his son chose EMU were Creighton, and facilities enhancements.

You think Creighton hasn't won enough, and makes too much money.
You think the facilities are just fine, and the current improvements are a waste of money.

Your thinking will never yield a Championship football program, so expect continued pushback as long as you continue that type of talk, on this type of board.

Don't take it 'personal'.

I've seen one facility improvement after another and never, not once, has it correlated to better football teams of improved attendance.

CC has been here five years. The reality is that there is a very, very small chance that he'll be here another five. That's the nature of head coaching positions. If he produces better teams he'll be hired away. If he doesn't he'll be released. That's just the way it is.

A football championship was within reach both this year and last absent new facilities. Neither the track around the field nor the old scoreboard caused the team to come up short.

(11-17-2018 02:31 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 10:07 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 02:25 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

Apologize yourself for turning these things personal.

Go back up and re-read cidbearit's comments.....I bet he takes it 'personal' as well.

2 major reasons that his son chose EMU were Creighton, and facilities enhancements.

You think Creighton hasn't won enough, and makes too much money.
You think the facilities are just fine, and the current improvements are a waste of money.

Your thinking will never yield a Championship football program, so expect continued pushback as long as you continue that type of talk, on this type of board.

Don't take it 'personal'.

I've seen one facility improvement after another and never, not once, has it correlated to better football teams of improved attendance.

CC has been here five years. The reality is that there is a very, very small chance that he'll be here another five. That's the nature of head coaching positions. If he produces better teams he'll be hired away. If he doesn't he'll be released. That's just the way it is.

A football championship was within reach both this year and last absent new facilities. Neither the track around the field nor the old scoreboard caused the team to come up short.

Actually the plans for the football facility has led to improved recruiting as indicated by a parent.

Recruits and parents look for tangible evidence that the program is committed to success and EMU has shown it with CC and improving facilities.

As far as improvements, you have the WRONG sports. The improvements were basketball in 1998.

Everything in football since 1991 (?) has been more maintenance than improvement. IPF, a fairly minimal indoor facility, is the exception.

New lights, new turf, etc. are MAINTENANCE items not major upgrades.

This business of a 'championship' is a pure straw man argument.

The Washington Capitals had not won at championship until this past June. Ever.

The Washington Wizards have not won a championship since they moved to D.C.

The Chicago Cubs went how many generations without winning a World Series?

Once again, the program is on the upswing. I don't see why the negativity...

(11-17-2018 03:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 02:31 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 10:07 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 02:25 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

Apologize yourself for turning these things personal.

Go back up and re-read cidbearit's comments.....I bet he takes it 'personal' as well.

2 major reasons that his son chose EMU were Creighton, and facilities enhancements.

You think Creighton hasn't won enough, and makes too much money.
You think the facilities are just fine, and the current improvements are a waste of money.

Your thinking will never yield a Championship football program, so expect continued pushback as long as you continue that type of talk, on this type of board.

Don't take it 'personal'.

I've seen one facility improvement after another and never, not once, has it correlated to better football teams of improved attendance.

CC has been here five years. The reality is that there is a very, very small chance that he'll be here another five. That's the nature of head coaching positions. If he produces better teams he'll be hired away. If he doesn't he'll be released. That's just the way it is.

A football championship was within reach both this year and last absent new facilities. Neither the track around the field nor the old scoreboard caused the team to come up short.

Actually the plans for the football facility has led to improved recruiting as indicated by a parent.

Recruits and parents look for tangible evidence that the program is committed to success and EMU has shown it with CC and improving facilities.

As far as improvements, you have the WRONG sports. The improvements were basketball in 1998.

Everything in football since 1991 (?) has been more maintenance than improvement. IPF, a fairly minimal indoor facility, is the exception.

New lights, new turf, etc. are MAINTENANCE items not major upgrades.

This business of a 'championship' is a pure straw man argument.

The Washington Capitals had not won at championship until this past June. Ever.

The Washington Wizards have not won a championship since they moved to D.C.

The Chicago Cubs went how many generations without winning a World Series?

Once again, the program is on the upswing. I don't see why the negativity...

I'd call ljmhurons a clown but i like clowns

(11-17-2018 02:31 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 10:07 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-16-2018 02:25 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 09:02 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(11-15-2018 01:39 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  And you can't overlook the impact CC has had on recruitment. The fact that this program is on the upswing and the connection he immediately felt with CC is what got Alex to choose EMU over Air Force and Washington State. And after Alex's official visit, as dad, I was won over. That level of influence on prospects and their parents is invaluable.

And to the topic of this thread, the commitment to enhancing facilities was a tangible factor in choosing EMU. All of these factors add up in the eyes of recruits, and it wouldn't surprise me to see EMU beating out WMU, Toledo, Buffalo, and NIU for more and more of the regional talent once they are able to set foot in the new facilities.

We apologize in advance for ljmhurons & Wickersham. We certainly appreciate another true EMU fan on the board. Welcome.

Apologize yourself for turning these things personal.

Go back up and re-read cidbearit's comments.....I bet he takes it 'personal' as well.

2 major reasons that his son chose EMU were Creighton, and facilities enhancements.

You think Creighton hasn't won enough, and makes too much money.
You think the facilities are just fine, and the current improvements are a waste of money.

Your thinking will never yield a Championship football program, so expect continued pushback as long as you continue that type of talk, on this type of board.

Don't take it 'personal'.

I've seen one facility improvement after another and never, not once, has it correlated to better football teams of improved attendance.

CC has been here five years. The reality is that there is a very, very small chance that he'll be here another five. That's the nature of head coaching positions. If he produces better teams he'll be hired away. If he doesn't he'll be released. That's just the way it is.

A football championship was within reach both this year and last absent new facilities. Neither the track around the field nor the old scoreboard caused the team to come up short.

Ive heard from high school coaches that the plans for the new facility have been talked about heavily to potential recruits as far back as 3 years ago. Many of these recruits are on the roster now.

Whether these improvements matter to you, the fact of the matter is they DO matter. They matter to recruits/family’s, they matter to current students that come to a game, they matter to current athletes, they matter to alumni who don’t want to come to the same old stadium, and they matter to our perception to the rest of the world that we value our teams and are willing to improve and stay with the times.


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Yes. I was a little worried that we were 'ahead of our skis' i.e., making promises but it took a while to get shovels in the ground.

Once again, when the project (phase I) is completed the athletic department and university will be proud of it.

Most of the money for the project is DONOR money.

(11-17-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Yes. I was a little worried that we were 'ahead of our skis' i.e., making promises but it took a while to get shovels in the ground.

Once again, when the project (phase I) is completed the athletic department and university will be proud of it.

Most of the money for the project is DONOR money.

.......and that's the most hilarious part of the negativity from guys like hurons and Wickersham. Even if you give them free money they will still find something to b*tch about. It's just in their 'glass half empty' nature.

Same reason they come on boards like this, spout nonsense and negativity, take a beating from all the other posters.......and still keep coming back.

It's a mental thing.

(11-17-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Yes. I was a little worried that we were 'ahead of our skis' i.e., making promises but it took a while to get shovels in the ground.

Once again, when the project (phase I) is completed the athletic department and university will be proud of it.

Most of the money for the project is DONOR money.

Most of the money is from tuition. Remember power to change pulled their 6 million.

(11-17-2018 07:30 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Yes. I was a little worried that we were 'ahead of our skis' i.e., making promises but it took a while to get shovels in the ground.

Once again, when the project (phase I) is completed the athletic department and university will be proud of it.

Most of the money for the project is DONOR money.

Most of the money is from tuition. Remember power to change pulled their 6 million.

I know that. EMU athletics has more time to collect donations.

it will take longer for them to raise their share.

(11-17-2018 08:25 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 07:30 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(11-17-2018 09:09 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Yes. I was a little worried that we were 'ahead of our skis' i.e., making promises but it took a while to get shovels in the ground.

Once again, when the project (phase I) is completed the athletic department and university will be proud of it.

Most of the money for the project is DONOR money.

Most of the money is from tuition. Remember power to change pulled their 6 million.

I know that. EMU athletics has more time to collect donations.

it will take longer for them to raise their share.

Good. So be transparent and stop saying that the center is paid for with donor money.
As of Feb 2018 EMU borrowed $20 million for the performance center and other Athletics needs (not the same $ as for the Rec). Athletics needs about another 6 million in donations before anyone can say most of the money is from donors.

TL;DR What you said is not currently true, but I hopefully it will be someday.