(09-26-2018 11:59 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

This be the end of this thread

(09-27-2018 12:10 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:09 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Yes, I am very cute, as are my retorts. The south of Memphis is a prostitute and drug haven that is among the worst I have seen in my many travels. Memphis and DC are very different. I like neither, but to claim some sort of Brazilian multiculturalism for South Memphis addresses nothing of the abject poverty of this oh so horrible area. Just sayin'

The catholic school & the public schools I refer to are not in south Memphis - they’re in one of the most affluent areas of town. Fred Smith of FedEx could walk there from his house.

To equate how it worked in your corner of the world vs. how it works elsewhere is simply a false equivalency. The circles school kids run in are not necessarily beholden to the one place they attend.

Just sayin’.

not in 1985

Yes, those schools were in affluent neighborhoods in 1985, and yes, some of those kids ran in the same circles.

(09-27-2018 12:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 11:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 11:41 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 10:56 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  Yes I remember women reporting it against Bill Clinton. Dragged through the mud by our vaunted mainstream press. And of course Hillary too. If I was a woman I'd think twice about reporting.

As I said multiple times in this thread, I’d hope we’d would learn from past politicians/SC candidates’ behavior & listen to them before making judgement calls. If it were your daughter making these reports, I’d bet you’d think twice before dismissing them.

If it was your son being accused I bet you wouldn't be so quick to believe someone that admits they were drunk. Didn't know who's house. Didn't know how many people were there. Didn't know the month. Didn't know the year.

Why is it only daughters are so special we have to believe them? Especially when they name 3 people that supposedly saw this and none of the three remember it?

If it were my son I would expect him not to be a party to people who did these things, whether or not he was an active participant. If he were drunk and/or involved with these people when they did these things, he’s part of the problem.

So that just goes for your son and not the daughter? But you still never answered my question on if you would be so quick to believe this if your son was being accused?

BTW according to those that were named by Mrs Ford....the son of Mrs. Kavanaugh wasn't there. Since you say "these things" I assume you also believe the gang raped girl.

Again I ask why do we have believe the things being said are true? Surely you're not suggesting we must believe them just because a female said it?

I’m saying they need to not be automatically discredited as some on here would prefer. I’ve never said that the accusers are 100% right & Kavanaugh is 100% wrong. Take a breath.

(09-27-2018 12:12 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:10 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:09 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Yes, I am very cute, as are my retorts. The south of Memphis is a prostitute and drug haven that is among the worst I have seen in my many travels. Memphis and DC are very different. I like neither, but to claim some sort of Brazilian multiculturalism for South Memphis addresses nothing of the abject poverty of this oh so horrible area. Just sayin'

The catholic school & the public schools I refer to are not in south Memphis - they’re in one of the most affluent areas of town. Fred Smith of FedEx could walk there from his house.

To equate how it worked in your corner of the world vs. how it works elsewhere is simply a false equivalency. The circles school kids run in are not necessarily beholden to the one place they attend.

Just sayin’.

not in 1985

Yes, those schools were in affluent neighborhoods in 1985.

wanna play the logical fallacy game?

argumentum ad passiones

i did especially well in philosophy at Memphis State circa 1985. this should be fun. do continue

(09-27-2018 12:09 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Yes, I am very cute, as are my retorts. The south of Memphis is a prostitute and drug haven that is among the worst I have seen in my many travels. Memphis and DC are very different. I like neither, but to claim some sort of Brazilian multiculturalism for South Memphis addresses nothing of the abject poverty of this oh so horrible area. Just sayin'

The catholic school & the public schools I refer to are not in south Memphis - they’re in one of the most affluent areas of town. Fred Smith of FedEx could walk there from his house.

To equate how it worked in your corner of the world vs. how it works elsewhere is simply a false equivalency. The circles school kids run in are not necessarily beholden to the one place they attend.

Just sayin’.

Thanks for the response. One quick question, can you please describe this incredible border crossing of socioeconomic classes that you experience in Memphis? I am very eager to learn about the experience you claim and export it to similar shitholes like Detroit, Gary, IN, and Chicago. Please share your secrets for how such diverse economic classes comingle so us newbs can learn and emulate. I am sure the economic success of Memphis shows great strides from such integration.

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:09 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Yes, I am very cute, as are my retorts. The south of Memphis is a prostitute and drug haven that is among the worst I have seen in my many travels. Memphis and DC are very different. I like neither, but to claim some sort of Brazilian multiculturalism for South Memphis addresses nothing of the abject poverty of this oh so horrible area. Just sayin'

The catholic school & the public schools I refer to are not in south Memphis - they’re in one of the most affluent areas of town. Fred Smith of FedEx could walk there from his house.

To equate how it worked in your corner of the world vs. how it works elsewhere is simply a false equivalency. The circles school kids run in are not necessarily beholden to the one place they attend.

Just sayin’.

Thanks for the response. One quick question, can you please describe this incredible border crossing of socioeconomic classes that you experience in Memphis? I am very eager to learn about the experience you claim and export it to similar shitholes like Detroit, Gary, IN, and Chicago. Please share your secrets for how such diverse economic classes comingle so us newbs can learn and emulate. I am sure the economic success of Memphis shows great strides from such integration.

I can share my experience as a private school student. I had friends who attended both the worst and best public schools all around town as well as the best and worst private schools, from all parts of town. To say private school kids don’t associate with kids from public school is outright false, period.

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 11:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 11:41 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  As I said multiple times in this thread, I’d hope we’d would learn from past politicians/SC candidates’ behavior & listen to them before making judgement calls. If it were your daughter making these reports, I’d bet you’d think twice before dismissing them.

If it was your son being accused I bet you wouldn't be so quick to believe someone that admits they were drunk. Didn't know who's house. Didn't know how many people were there. Didn't know the month. Didn't know the year.

Why is it only daughters are so special we have to believe them? Especially when they name 3 people that supposedly saw this and none of the three remember it?

If it were my son I would expect him not to be a party to people who did these things, whether or not he was an active participant. If he were drunk and/or involved with these people when they did these things, he’s part of the problem.

So that just goes for your son and not the daughter? But you still never answered my question on if you would be so quick to believe this if your son was being accused?

BTW according to those that were named by Mrs Ford....the son of Mrs. Kavanaugh wasn't there. Since you say "these things" I assume you also believe the gang raped girl.

Again I ask why do we have believe the things being said are true? Surely you're not suggesting we must believe them just because a female said it?

I’m saying they need to not be automatically discredited as some on here would prefer. I’ve never said that the accusers are 100% right & Kavanaugh is 100% wrong. Take a breath.

Who's dismissing it just because it's a female? I haven't seen that. What I seen is Mrs Ford give conflicting stories. Stories that she cant remember facts to but the facts she seems to recall.....naming 3 people that was supposedly there. Well not one of them backs her up.

Now I think that goes way past simply dismissing because she's a she or someone's daughter.

You still never answered my question. For the 3rd time, if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them?

So take a deep breath and look at the facts Mrs Ford has stated (or the ones she's been quoted as saying) and tell me again why Kavanaugh isn't getting the same benefit that you want others to give to Mrs Ford and the gang rape lady?

Why would a kid attend the "worst private school"? What moron parent would pay good money to send their kid to such a place? Please cite examples of such interscholastic integration or get bent. Like Ford, I do not believe you.

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:12 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:10 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:09 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Yes, I am very cute, as are my retorts. The south of Memphis is a prostitute and drug haven that is among the worst I have seen in my many travels. Memphis and DC are very different. I like neither, but to claim some sort of Brazilian multiculturalism for South Memphis addresses nothing of the abject poverty of this oh so horrible area. Just sayin'

The catholic school & the public schools I refer to are not in south Memphis - they’re in one of the most affluent areas of town. Fred Smith of FedEx could walk there from his house.

To equate how it worked in your corner of the world vs. how it works elsewhere is simply a false equivalency. The circles school kids run in are not necessarily beholden to the one place they attend.

Just sayin’.

not in 1985

Yes, those schools were in affluent neighborhoods in 1985.

wanna play the logical fallacy game?

argumentum ad passiones

i did especially well in philosophy at Memphis State circa 1985. this should be fun. do continue

You can argue on emotion all you like; I’m sharing facts. Kids from private schools (me) interacted with kids from public schools (my friends) in the late 80’s. Family members of mine did the same during the mid-80’s.

(09-27-2018 12:26 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-26-2018 11:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  If it was your son being accused I bet you wouldn't be so quick to believe someone that admits they were drunk. Didn't know who's house. Didn't know how many people were there. Didn't know the month. Didn't know the year.

Why is it only daughters are so special we have to believe them? Especially when they name 3 people that supposedly saw this and none of the three remember it?

If it were my son I would expect him not to be a party to people who did these things, whether or not he was an active participant. If he were drunk and/or involved with these people when they did these things, he’s part of the problem.

So that just goes for your son and not the daughter? But you still never answered my question on if you would be so quick to believe this if your son was being accused?

BTW according to those that were named by Mrs Ford....the son of Mrs. Kavanaugh wasn't there. Since you say "these things" I assume you also believe the gang raped girl.

Again I ask why do we have believe the things being said are true? Surely you're not suggesting we must believe them just because a female said it?

I’m saying they need to not be automatically discredited as some on here would prefer. I’ve never said that the accusers are 100% right & Kavanaugh is 100% wrong. Take a breath.

Who's dismissing it just because it's a female? I haven't seen that. What I seen is Mrs Ford give conflicting stories. Stories that she cant remember facts to but the facts she seems to recall.....naming 3 people that was supposedly there. Well not one of them backs her up.

Now I think that goes way past simply dismissing because she's a she or someone's daughter.

You still never answered my question. For the 3rd time, if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them?

So take a deep breath and look at the facts Mrs Ford has stated (or the ones she's been quoted as saying) and tell me again why Kavanaugh isn't getting the same benefit that you want others to give to Mrs Ford and the gang rape lady?

Those on this thread referring to an accused as a “drunk beetch” are indeed trying to dismiss it.

To answer your question directly, if it were my son, I would certainly take her accusations with sincerity, and want more info from both sides, just as I want now.

(09-27-2018 12:27 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Why would a kid attend the "worst private school"? What moron parent would pay good money to send their kid to such a place? Please cite examples of such interscholastic integration or get bent. Like Ford, I do not believe you.

Certain private schools are better than others. Parents can afford the lesser ones because they’re cheaper than the higher end ones, yet better than their districted school. If you can’t figure that out, I can’t explain it further.

This is the lowest Dem trick yet.


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(09-27-2018 12:27 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:12 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:10 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:09 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  The catholic school & the public schools I refer to are not in south Memphis - they’re in one of the most affluent areas of town. Fred Smith of FedEx could walk there from his house.

To equate how it worked in your corner of the world vs. how it works elsewhere is simply a false equivalency. The circles school kids run in are not necessarily beholden to the one place they attend.

Just sayin’.

not in 1985

Yes, those schools were in affluent neighborhoods in 1985.

wanna play the logical fallacy game?

argumentum ad passiones

i did especially well in philosophy at Memphis State circa 1985. this should be fun. do continue

You can argue on emotion all you like; I’m sharing facts. Kids from private schools (me) interacted with kids from public schools (my friends) in the late 80’s. Family members of mine did the same during the mid-80’s.

I am arguing on facts. Memphis is as stratified economically as any city I know well. I am asking you for FACTS to prove that the city is more integrated as you claim, and I do not believe.

And my ultimate point is the left claims to be oh so in touch with those they claim to serve, yet the reality of their upbringing and lives indicate a greater degree of segregation than us common folk experience. Prove me wrong, Hugo Chavez.

(09-27-2018 12:29 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:26 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:02 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  If it were my son I would expect him not to be a party to people who did these things, whether or not he was an active participant. If he were drunk and/or involved with these people when they did these things, he’s part of the problem.

So that just goes for your son and not the daughter? But you still never answered my question on if you would be so quick to believe this if your son was being accused?

BTW according to those that were named by Mrs Ford....the son of Mrs. Kavanaugh wasn't there. Since you say "these things" I assume you also believe the gang raped girl.

Again I ask why do we have believe the things being said are true? Surely you're not suggesting we must believe them just because a female said it?

I’m saying they need to not be automatically discredited as some on here would prefer. I’ve never said that the accusers are 100% right & Kavanaugh is 100% wrong. Take a breath.

Who's dismissing it just because it's a female? I haven't seen that. What I seen is Mrs Ford give conflicting stories. Stories that she cant remember facts to but the facts she seems to recall.....naming 3 people that was supposedly there. Well not one of them backs her up.

Now I think that goes way past simply dismissing because she's a she or someone's daughter.

You still never answered my question. For the 3rd time, if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them?

So take a deep breath and look at the facts Mrs Ford has stated (or the ones she's been quoted as saying) and tell me again why Kavanaugh isn't getting the same benefit that you want others to give to Mrs Ford and the gang rape lady?

Those on this thread referring to an accused as a “drunk beetch” are indeed trying to dismiss it.

“drunk beetch” or anything like that wasn't in the post you directed your post to. The post that I quoted.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-859070-post-15...id15534270

So for the 4th time I will ask if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them? Or the things said by the repeatedly gang rape girl?

A simple yes or no is all that's needed...why is that so hard for you?

Character assassination is an attempt to tarnish a person's reputation. It may involve exaggeration, misleading half-truths, or manipulation of facts to present an untrue picture of the targeted person. It is a form of defamation and can be a form of ad hominem argument.

let them vote. there is a reason that there is a vote.

if he is confirmed and the accusations are true, then remove him

if the accusations are false let the accusers be punished.

how stupid are people? seriously?

(09-27-2018 12:36 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:29 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:26 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  So that just goes for your son and not the daughter? But you still never answered my question on if you would be so quick to believe this if your son was being accused?

BTW according to those that were named by Mrs Ford....the son of Mrs. Kavanaugh wasn't there. Since you say "these things" I assume you also believe the gang raped girl.

Again I ask why do we have believe the things being said are true? Surely you're not suggesting we must believe them just because a female said it?

I’m saying they need to not be automatically discredited as some on here would prefer. I’ve never said that the accusers are 100% right & Kavanaugh is 100% wrong. Take a breath.

Who's dismissing it just because it's a female? I haven't seen that. What I seen is Mrs Ford give conflicting stories. Stories that she cant remember facts to but the facts she seems to recall.....naming 3 people that was supposedly there. Well not one of them backs her up.

Now I think that goes way past simply dismissing because she's a she or someone's daughter.

You still never answered my question. For the 3rd time, if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them?

So take a deep breath and look at the facts Mrs Ford has stated (or the ones she's been quoted as saying) and tell me again why Kavanaugh isn't getting the same benefit that you want others to give to Mrs Ford and the gang rape lady?

Those on this thread referring to an accused as a “drunk beetch” are indeed trying to dismiss it.

“drunk beetch” or anything like that wasn't in the post you directed your post to. The post that I quoted.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-859070-post-15...id15534270

So for the 4th time I will ask if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them? Or the things said by the repeatedly gang rape girl?

A simple yes or no is all that's needed...why is that so hard for you?

Since it's your question, maybe you should go first.

If it was your daughter, your wife, sister etc making the accusations, would you believe her...?

You have derailed this thread by making it personal. If it were anyone's daughter or son, he or she would recuse themselves from the committee. lol

Anyway, Elizabeth Rasor ( Ex GF of Mark Judge during his so named 'Wasted' period ) has agreed to testify. That might be interesting.

(09-27-2018 12:32 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:27 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:12 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:10 AM)shere khan Wrote:  not in 1985

Yes, those schools were in affluent neighborhoods in 1985.

wanna play the logical fallacy game?

argumentum ad passiones

i did especially well in philosophy at Memphis State circa 1985. this should be fun. do continue

You can argue on emotion all you like; I’m sharing facts. Kids from private schools (me) interacted with kids from public schools (my friends) in the late 80’s. Family members of mine did the same during the mid-80’s.

I am arguing on facts. Memphis is as stratified economically as any city I know well. I am asking you for FACTS to prove that the city is more integrated as you claim, and I do not believe.

The fact that I have lived here my entire life save 1 year is all you need to know. I’ve seen and lived exactly what I have described. I’m living proof, as are many other family members and friends. That automatically negates the statement that as a rule private school kids have nothing to do with public school kids. Step out of your bubble.

So you have no media nor government facts to support your assertion, only that you feel that your personal experience shows that your are telling the truth. Thank you for your detailed and collaborated testimony, Dr. Ford. I feel your pain.

(09-27-2018 12:36 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:29 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:26 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:17 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 12:11 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  So that just goes for your son and not the daughter? But you still never answered my question on if you would be so quick to believe this if your son was being accused?

BTW according to those that were named by Mrs Ford....the son of Mrs. Kavanaugh wasn't there. Since you say "these things" I assume you also believe the gang raped girl.

Again I ask why do we have believe the things being said are true? Surely you're not suggesting we must believe them just because a female said it?

I’m saying they need to not be automatically discredited as some on here would prefer. I’ve never said that the accusers are 100% right & Kavanaugh is 100% wrong. Take a breath.

Who's dismissing it just because it's a female? I haven't seen that. What I seen is Mrs Ford give conflicting stories. Stories that she cant remember facts to but the facts she seems to recall.....naming 3 people that was supposedly there. Well not one of them backs her up.

Now I think that goes way past simply dismissing because she's a she or someone's daughter.

You still never answered my question. For the 3rd time, if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them?

So take a deep breath and look at the facts Mrs Ford has stated (or the ones she's been quoted as saying) and tell me again why Kavanaugh isn't getting the same benefit that you want others to give to Mrs Ford and the gang rape lady?

Those on this thread referring to an accused as a “drunk beetch” are indeed trying to dismiss it.

“drunk beetch” or anything like that wasn't in the post you directed your post to. The post that I quoted.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-859070-post-15...id15534270

So for the 4th time I will ask if this was your son and knowing the facts we know. Would you be so willing to trust Mrs. Fords facts as she remembers them? Or the things said by the repeatedly gang rape girl?

A simple yes or no is all that's needed...why is that so hard for you?

Because it’s not as simple as a yes or no. If it were my son in Kavanaugh’s situation, I’d want to hear these women’s stories, and I’d want to hear from those who hung out with my son during that same time, as a parent is it privy to everything. In Kavanaugh’s case, the company he kept doesn’t exactly paint the picture he is trying to present.