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If the problem is lack of resources, we need to drop back to FCS. Our resources are tapped out and shrinking and will get worse after a 1-11 or 0-12 football season and another "close but no cigar" basketball season.

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(09-15-2018 01:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  If the problem is lack of resources, we need to drop back to FCS. Our resources are tapped out and shrinking and will get worse after a 1-11 or 0-12 football season and another "close but no cigar" basketball season.

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Man, stop the dropping back crap. No one wants to hear that. Why don’t you go be a fan of Stoney Brook if you want to be an FCS fan
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If you guys want to be a kick ass take on the world G5 football program then show up at football games no matter what the record and financially support your athletic department.

I hope your coaches and players don't bend over and hold their own ass cheeks open for VT next week, at least make Tech fight for it.

Your diploma says Old Dominion University, every season starts 0-0 and every game starts 0-0.

I am not an ODU fan, JMU athletics benefits from a strong ODU for whatever happens during the next round of conferences musical chairs.
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(09-15-2018 01:33 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(09-15-2018 01:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  If the problem is lack of resources, we need to drop back to FCS. Our resources are tapped out and shrinking and will get worse after a 1-11 or 0-12 football season and another "close but no cigar" basketball season.

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Man, stop the dropping back crap. No one wants to hear that. Why don’t you go be a fan of Stoney Brook if you want to be an FCS fan

I don't have roughly $100k invested in Stoney Brook. You are entitled to your own opinion. My opinion is that we should drop back and continue to enjoy a football atmosphere, without the money pit, and try to get in the A10. I don't see what we are getting out of FBS football for the money. In my opinion, it is no more exciting, no rivalries, no more media money boost, and frankly, other than getting walloped be P5 opponents, the play on the field isn't any better either. I realize there are all the sunk costs in this that makes it difficult for some with a lot invested to admit the mistake.

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(09-15-2018 02:36 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(09-15-2018 01:33 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  
(09-15-2018 01:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  If the problem is lack of resources, we need to drop back to FCS. Our resources are tapped out and shrinking and will get worse after a 1-11 or 0-12 football season and another "close but no cigar" basketball season.

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Man, stop the dropping back crap. No one wants to hear that. Why don’t you go be a fan of Stoney Brook if you want to be an FCS fan

I don't have roughly $100k invested in Stoney Brook. You are entitled to your own opinion. My opinion is that we should drop back and continue to enjoy a football atmosphere, without the money pit, and try to get in the A10. I don't see what we are getting out of FBS football for the money. In my opinion, it is no more exciting, no rivalries, no more media money boost, and frankly, other than getting walloped be P5 opponents, the play on the field isn't any better either. I realize there are all the sunk costs in this that makes it difficult for some with a lot invested to admit the mistake.

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The issue is the A10 part. I think many would support this approach, but I don't think it is realistic so CUSA (FBS) football and conference affiliation made and makes the best sense . I also think this (Staying in CUSA) requires a MUCH larger commitment from the Alumni base, University, and City if we are to make ODU a top notch CUSA academic and athletic institution. The question is ...Are all 3 willing to do their part ? We will see on the alumni side after this year on the Athletic side anyway.
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Gus Malzahn donating $2 million toward Auburn’s football operations building. I understand that he’s making a lot more than Coach Wilder, but wonder what his level of commitment has been over the last 10 years ...

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(09-15-2018 04:49 PM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  Gus Malzahn donating $2 million toward Auburn’s football operations building. I understand that he’s making a lot more than Coach Wilder, but wonder what his level of commitment has been over the last 10 years ...

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He has taken a below aberage salary for a number of years. If you want to criticize his coaching, thats one thing, but how can anyone criticize his “level of committment?
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RE: Fire Bobby Wilder Thread
(09-15-2018 01:30 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  If the problem is lack of resources, we need to drop back to FCS. Our resources are tapped out and shrinking and will get worse after a 1-11 or 0-12 football season and another "close but no cigar" basketball season.

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We are never going back to the fcs. Our resources are not even close to being tapped.
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^ HAHA. Yep...
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Wilder isn’t going anywhere after the VT win - unless we lose out the rest of the season. But Nagy needs to go - and the basketball season needs to start. Nov 6 can’t get here soon enough.
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Bobby for ever!
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I think WS gives BW the option to change up his staff (coordinators at least) before firing him. I do feel like the ice is getting extremely thin, though.
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(10-08-2018 08:03 PM)GotLabradors Wrote:  I think WS gives BW the option to change up his staff (coordinators at least) before firing him. I do feel like the ice is getting extremely thin, though.

The most probable outcome immediately post-season, especially with BW's current buy-out.
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My bet is that regardless of how the rest of this season plays out, BW gets one more year with an understanding that the results will determine his future after that. I'm sure in the administration's eyes Bobby has earned the right to run out of the tunnel for the first game in the new stadium based on what he has done for the university over the past 10 years. As frustrated as i am with the last year and a half, i can't say that i totally disagree if that is their thought process. Although, i reserve the right to have a change of heart at 7 pm on Saturday.
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(10-09-2018 01:19 PM)ODU804 Wrote:  My bet is that regardless of how the rest of this season plays out, BW gets one more year with an understanding that the results will determine his future after that. I'm sure in the administration's eyes Bobby has earned the right to run out of the tunnel for the first game in the new stadium based on what he has done for the university over the past 10 years. As frustrated as i am with the last year and a half, i can't say that i totally disagree if that is their thought process. Although, i reserve the right to have a change of heart at 7 pm on Saturday.

True. I could see a January 2020 decision to even lessen the buy out, so we could take that towards a higher future HC contract.
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I can't disagree with the previous two comments. I'm even sympathetic to them. Bobby is a very likable person and he was the right guy at the right time for ODU's start-up. However, sometimes I think we fans put too much into the "all he has done for us" bucket.

Bobby helped launch ODU football and he did it extremely well. For that, I will always be grateful. ODU also greatly benefited Bobby and his career. We gave him his first head coaching opportunity at the FCS level and helped him grow that into an FBS coaching gig. He will always have that on his resume and I hope he is as proud of it as we are of him.

I think the time has come either this year or next, barring a significant improvement, to part ways. We can't continue to blame coordinators and recruiting without looking at the captain of the ship. He's the one responsible for the program and staffing, so ultimately, the blame lies at his feet.
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(10-09-2018 01:19 PM)ODU804 Wrote:  My bet is that regardless of how the rest of this season plays out, BW gets one more year with an understanding that the results will determine his future after that. I'm sure in the administration's eyes Bobby has earned the right to run out of the tunnel for the first game in the new stadium based on what he has done for the university over the past 10 years. As frustrated as i am with the last year and a half, i can't say that i totally disagree if that is their thought process. Although, i reserve the right to have a change of heart at 7 pm on Saturday.

Let me preface this by saying I do not think we should fire BW after this year. I do think there should be some house cleaning, however.

I think the "let's give the coach one year to get it right, and if next season is not a good one, then we fire him" line of thinking is terrible. If you think you should fire a coach, then you should not give them one year to have a good season, then extend him, when you were ready to fire him 6 months ago. One season should not determine how you manage the program.

So, what, you have a program that is underperforming and you say, well, this is it, win 8 games next year or you are gone. Then you win 8 games, is that really a good thing going forward, or are you just stuck with the underperforming coach for a few more years because he managed to put a good season together when his back was against the wall?

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^ certainly works for JJ
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(10-09-2018 02:02 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(10-09-2018 01:19 PM)ODU804 Wrote:  My bet is that regardless of how the rest of this season plays out, BW gets one more year with an understanding that the results will determine his future after that. I'm sure in the administration's eyes Bobby has earned the right to run out of the tunnel for the first game in the new stadium based on what he has done for the university over the past 10 years. As frustrated as i am with the last year and a half, i can't say that i totally disagree if that is their thought process. Although, i reserve the right to have a change of heart at 7 pm on Saturday.

Let me preface this by saying I do not think we should fire BW after this year. I do think there should be some house cleaning, however.

I think the "let's give the coach one year to get it right, and if next season is not a good one, then we fire him" line of thinking is terrible. If you think you should fire a coach, then you should not give them one year to have a good season, then extend him, when you were ready to fire him 6 months ago. One season should not determine how you manage the program.

So, what, you have a program that is underperforming and you say, well, this is it, win 8 games next year or you are gone. Then you win 8 games, is that really a good thing going forward, or are you just stuck with the underperforming coach for a few more years because he managed to put a good season together when his back was against the wall?

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To add to your rant, can't we just wait to see how this season turns out before we decide what to do with the coach? Do we really have to move to firing Bobby after every loss, and extending him after a big win? The see saw is making me nauseous, and I just want to get off the ride.
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