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After thinking about where Shane Beamer is coaching right now at Oklahoma, Ruffin McNeill is also at Oklahoma as the Assistant Head Coach and Beamer as Assistant Head Coach for Offense. Bring Zohn Burden in the mix and add the man behind Bud Foster for the last 23 plus years Charley Wiles we may have something of value but we could never afford these coaches.

(09-13-2018 07:25 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 02:30 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 12:54 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 09:50 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 09:22 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Want to make ODU fans puke or something?

Maybe you, but no one else would puke if we hired a coach that was a) young b) had the Beamer name recognition going c) knew Virginia and recruiting in the state d) had worked his way up the ladder, currently an assistant at Oklahoma and could fill in the staff with higher-level assistants.

He'd rather have Wilder.

Than Shane Beamer? Absolutely. I don't like cheaters.

Let's compromise...You don't get the cheater, and we get rid of the really bad coach for me?

LOL off really bad coach. How many coaches have better 4 year startup records? And done so in an 80 year old stadium with a 20k capacity?

(09-13-2018 08:23 AM)AimHigh Wrote:  After thinking about where Shane Beamer is coaching right now at Oklahoma, Ruffin McNeill is also at Oklahoma as the Assistant Head Coach and Beamer as Assistant Head Coach for Offense. Bring Zohn Burden in the mix and add the man behind Bud Foster for the last 23 plus years Charley Wiles we may have something of value but we could never afford these coaches.

I'd be quite happy to bring in Ruffin McNeill. He got shafted at ECU, knows the area, and has FBS experience.

McNeill does make less than I thought he would. Makes about $560k per year. Only had 3 winning seasons out of 6 so I'm not sure how fond I would be of that. The program was bare when he left.

(09-13-2018 09:06 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 07:25 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 02:30 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 12:54 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 09:50 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Maybe you, but no one else would puke if we hired a coach that was a) young b) had the Beamer name recognition going c) knew Virginia and recruiting in the state d) had worked his way up the ladder, currently an assistant at Oklahoma and could fill in the staff with higher-level assistants.

He'd rather have Wilder.

Than Shane Beamer? Absolutely. I don't like cheaters.

Let's compromise...You don't get the cheater, and we get rid of the really bad coach for me?

LOL off really bad coach. How many coaches have better 4 year startup records? And done so in an 80 year old stadium with a 20k capacity?

Should've clarified. A coach in over his head at this level.

Edit: Nobody can dispute how well Bobby did getting this thing off the ground.

Moving UP to FBS was and is not a mistake. FCS is the analogous to Triple A baseball (Nobody cares about it). Want to get locked long term into that? I'm really tiring of the frequent second guessing.

(09-13-2018 11:01 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  Moving UP to FBS was and is not a mistake. FCS is the analogous to Triple A baseball (Nobody cares about it). Want to get locked long term into that? I'm really tiring of the frequent second guessing.

Is a low level FBS program better than an upper level FCS program? That is the ultimate question. From a personal point, the level (FBS/FCS) doesn't matter. It's the schools we play. RIVALRIES !! We have nobody to gang up on (think ODU/VCU basketball of the past). How much more enthusiastic were the games when we played JMU/Richmond/W&M ? It's time people (Wood, Broderick) realize that we will probably NEVER play in a New Year's Day bowl game. Why not be involved in a playoff system that we have a shot of winning? At least it's fun, maybe not the upper level quality of play, but fun. After all, it's a game....not life.

(09-13-2018 11:24 AM)imfsff3 Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 11:01 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  Moving UP to FBS was and is not a mistake. FCS is the analogous to Triple A baseball (Nobody cares about it). Want to get locked long term into that? I'm really tiring of the frequent second guessing.

Is a low level FBS program better than an upper level FCS program? That is the ultimate question. From a personal point, the level (FBS/FCS) doesn't matter. It's the schools we play. RIVALRIES !! We have nobody to gang up on (think ODU/VCU basketball of the past). How much more enthusiastic were the games when we played JMU/Richmond/W&M ? It's time people (Wood, Broderick) realize that we will probably NEVER play in a New Year's Day bowl game. Why not be involved in a playoff system that we have a shot of winning? At least it's fun, maybe not the upper level quality of play, but fun. After all, it's a game....not life.

Just looked at JMUs home schedule. That doesn't look like fun. That looks like the OOC schedule folks complained about last season in hoops. One decent game and a bunch of cupcakes.

(09-13-2018 11:24 AM)imfsff3 Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 11:01 AM)ODUDon Wrote:  Moving UP to FBS was and is not a mistake. FCS is the analogous to Triple A baseball (Nobody cares about it). Want to get locked long term into that? I'm really tiring of the frequent second guessing.

Is a low level FBS program better than an upper level FCS program? That is the ultimate question. From a personal point, the level (FBS/FCS) doesn't matter. It's the schools we play. RIVALRIES !! We have nobody to gang up on (think ODU/VCU basketball of the past). How much more enthusiastic were the games when we played JMU/Richmond/W&M ? It's time people (Wood, Broderick) realize that we will probably NEVER play in a New Year's Day bowl game. Why not be involved in a playoff system that we have a shot of winning? At least it's fun, maybe not the upper level quality of play, but fun. After all, it's a game....not life.

The answer to your first question is yes. Did anyone ever believe Richmond or W&M were football rivals?

(09-13-2018 09:06 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 07:25 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 02:30 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 12:54 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 09:50 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Maybe you, but no one else would puke if we hired a coach that was a) young b) had the Beamer name recognition going c) knew Virginia and recruiting in the state d) had worked his way up the ladder, currently an assistant at Oklahoma and could fill in the staff with higher-level assistants.

He'd rather have Wilder.

Than Shane Beamer? Absolutely. I don't like cheaters.

Let's compromise...You don't get the cheater, and we get rid of the really bad coach for me?

LOL off really bad coach. How many coaches have better 4 year startup records? And done so in an 80 year old stadium with a 20k capacity?

LOL at your LOL

Moving with this coaching staff was a mistake

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Yes, it was a mistake. At the other level there were playoffs and rivalries. What do we get now, beat downs and bowls nobody cares about. I was all in for football but now I think starting football was a mistake. I miss basketball, we could have spent all our resources on B-ball and had an opportunity to be in the top 25, beat good programs, and go far in the tourney. Now we have a crap F-ball team taking all the resources and we are extending "has beens" that did not deserve to be hired to begin with, that schedules a bunch of HS teams for B-ball coach that cant even get UVA to play us.

(09-13-2018 06:18 PM)ODUMONARCHZ1 Wrote:  Moving with this coaching staff was a mistake

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This +Infinity
BW and his nincumpoops are stinking up on and off the field.

(09-13-2018 09:06 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 07:25 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 02:30 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 12:54 PM)757ODU Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 09:50 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  Maybe you, but no one else would puke if we hired a coach that was a) young b) had the Beamer name recognition going c) knew Virginia and recruiting in the state d) had worked his way up the ladder, currently an assistant at Oklahoma and could fill in the staff with higher-level assistants.

He'd rather have Wilder.

Than Shane Beamer? Absolutely. I don't like cheaters.

Let's compromise...You don't get the cheater, and we get rid of the really bad coach for me?

LOL off really bad coach. How many coaches have better 4 year startup records? And done so in an 80 year old stadium with a 20k capacity?

Giles, you gotta stop living in the past. We are now beyond beating Campbell camels and Monmouth Hawks. We just got bested by Charlotte the worst FBS program in the league and that should tell you where we are now. If you still believe BW is the man for the job then you my friend need an evaluation. For all i care the coaches can go stand on the coast of carolina's when Florence hits that's putting it with out using foul words.

If we're going to get our asses beat, better to have FBS teams do it. We're not a good FCS team right now.

I wish there was a losers championship so we could play UTEP at the end of the season to see who is truly the worst team in the worst conference.

(09-13-2018 07:05 PM)Gibs44 Wrote:  Yes, it was a mistake. At the other level there were playoffs and rivalries. What do we get now, beat downs and bowls nobody cares about. I was all in for football but now I think starting football was a mistake. I miss basketball, we could have spent all our resources on B-ball and had an opportunity to be in the top 25, beat good programs, and go far in the tourney. Now we have a crap F-ball team taking all the resources and we are extending "has beens" that did not deserve to be hired to begin with, that schedules a bunch of HS teams for B-ball coach that cant even get UVA to play us.

Bingo

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(09-13-2018 07:05 PM)Gibs44 Wrote:  Yes, it was a mistake. At the other level there were playoffs and rivalries. What do we get now, beat downs and bowls nobody cares about. I was all in for football but now I think starting football was a mistake. I miss basketball, we could have spent all our resources on B-ball and had an opportunity to be in the top 25, beat good programs, and go far in the tourney. Now we have a crap F-ball team taking all the resources and we are extending "has beens" that did not deserve to be hired to begin with, that schedules a bunch of HS teams for B-ball coach that cant even get UVA to play us.

Nope not a mistake, cancel this thread.

(09-13-2018 07:31 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-13-2018 07:05 PM)Gibs44 Wrote:  Yes, it was a mistake. At the other level there were playoffs and rivalries. What do we get now, beat downs and bowls nobody cares about. I was all in for football but now I think starting football was a mistake. I miss basketball, we could have spent all our resources on B-ball and had an opportunity to be in the top 25, beat good programs, and go far in the tourney. Now we have a crap F-ball team taking all the resources and we are extending "has beens" that did not deserve to be hired to begin with, that schedules a bunch of HS teams for B-ball coach that cant even get UVA to play us.

Bingo

Yahtzee!

The only way football hurts basketball is by keeping us from being in the A10. I remember reading that football basically pays for itself. Or at least it was. If season ticket sales and attendance drop like a rock next year, sponsorships could dry up... then we may be in trouble.