(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  The northern part of the state brings our rankings way down. We need to break off below Jackson and we would be much higher. Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

While that may be true overall, I believe that Desoto County schools is the state's top-ranked school district. It's the largest school district in Mississippi and has 5 of the top 13 high schools in the state in Olive Branch and Southaven.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-hi...ict-111967

clt hates to see a chat page veer off topic.

(08-28-2018 05:40 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  The northern part of the state brings our rankings way down. We need to break off below Jackson and we would be much higher. Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

While that may be true overall, I believe that Desoto County schools is the state's top-ranked school district. It's the largest school district in Mississippi and has 5 of the top 13 high schools in the state in Olive Branch and Southaven.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-hi...ict-111967

That’s one county though. What about the rest?

(08-28-2018 05:57 PM)EagNBran Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 05:40 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  The northern part of the state brings our rankings way down. We need to break off below Jackson and we would be much higher. Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

While that may be true overall, I believe that Desoto County schools is the state's top-ranked school district. It's the largest school district in Mississippi and has 5 of the top 13 high schools in the state in Olive Branch and Southaven.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-hi...ict-111967

That’s one county though. What about the rest?

That's why I stated that I agreed overall with the statement that "the northern part of the state brings our rankings way down". Desoto is an outlier anyway, mostly suburban middle class black and white flight from Memphis.

(08-28-2018 05:44 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt hates to see a chat page veer off topic.

I participated yet agree with you.

I don’t even understand why this is a topic. I thought Hopson was paid in rich football history. He can easily pay his rent with a story about the good ole days.

I can't wait for tax season.

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  The northern part of the state brings our rankings way down. We need to break off below Jackson and we would be much higher.

“Just get rid of those pesky black people and we’d be the best state in America!”

And if you took the Delta out, Mississippi wouldn’t jump up that much, if it all.

(08-28-2018 07:06 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  The northern part of the state brings our rankings way down. We need to break off below Jackson and we would be much higher.

“Just get rid of those pesky black people and we’d be the best state in America!”

And if you took the Delta out, Mississippi wouldn’t jump up that much, if it all.

Whoa, I'm from Cleveland...graduated from East Side High (now Cleveland Central HS) C/O '94. I am proud of my Delta roots...it is certainly hard living for a large number of folks that call the Delta home. I always say, if you can make it [out of] the Delta, you can make it anywhere. The problem is, and showing [my] form of hypocrisy, those that do make it out seldom return...

And, these actions help perpetuate the 'dying on the vine' problem that persists there. Outside of Clarksdale, Cleveland, Greenwood, Greenville, Vicksburg, (and now Tunica - which is becoming an extension to Memphis) there is literally nothing there. Sadly, I think the very few with vested power in the Delta would not have it any other way...there is long, rich old money there.

Back on track, I think Jay's new contract will allow him to grow as an HC and I remain optimistic that he comes good soon (hopefully in '18 through however long he decides to be our HBC). It's a good move IMO.

(08-28-2018 11:18 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 08:30 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 07:54 AM)FAU Connoisseur Wrote:  https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/e...04094.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/eco...079181001/

For a K-12 education being the 29th ranked stated is nothing to brag about, but it’s much better than Mississippi’s 48th place spot. Luckily for me my children will be home schooled and can take advantage of the best state for higher education (and 2nd cheapest).

Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

Not likely tbh. They will, however, likely score much higher on testing than their public school peers, exceed in college, then get higher paying jobs than their public school peers.

My church homeschool network teaches kids life skills, in addition to academics. So they will be taught public speaking, leadership skills, know how to balance a budget, and score higher on standardized tests. All while avoiding drugs, violence, and an early exposure to porn/sex that they are getting in the public system.

When are people going to learn the “personality” excuse is a lazy cop out. With a little bit of intentionality you can make sure your kids are properly socialized.

I agree completely. I've seen homeschooling done extremely well and very poorly. If the parents know what they are doing, homeschooled kids are actually less awkward socially, and much more confident and refined interacting with adults and in a business (work) environment.

This is from my observations over the years. My 2 kids are not homeschooled, but they do get more than plenty of instruction from their parents.

(08-28-2018 12:35 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:45 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:18 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

Not likely tbh. They will, however, likely score much higher on testing than their public school peers, exceed in college, then get higher paying jobs than their public school peers.

My church homeschool network teaches kids life skills, in addition to academics. So they will be taught public speaking, leadership skills, know how to balance a budget, and score higher on standardized tests. All while avoiding drugs, violence, and an early exposure to porn/sex that they are getting in the public system.

When are people going to learn the “personality” excuse is a lazy cop out. With a little bit of intentionality you can make sure your kids are properly socialized.

We have four children (ages 4-8) across the street who are "homeschooled" and they have the vocabulary of kids raised in the wild by wolves. They also run nekkid around their pool for all to see (hey! maybe they WERE raised by wolves) and use choice curse words they hear from parents or their friends. (so you can't blame the school system). Now, they did have a TRUMP for President sign during the election, so that might 'splain everything.

Seems these folks did fine with public schools: Oprah, Steve Jobs, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Warren Buffett (for that matter, JIMMY Buffett!), Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook (Robertsdale HS in Alabama) etc etc etc HOW DID THEY SURVIVE?

I think your confused. The real problem with those kids is not that they are homeschooled, it’s the fact that they’re from Mississippi. Also public school used to be much better. All of the people you listed went to school when teachers received their last pay raise. Now public schools have 45 kids to a class with teachers hidden behind bullet proof glass. Welcome to 2018.

I completely disagree. Some schools may be like that, but there are still some good public schools. My kids go to one... in Mississippi.

(08-29-2018 07:10 AM)DNEagle Wrote:  Whoa, I'm from Cleveland...graduated from East Side High (now Cleveland Central HS) C/O '94. I am proud of my Delta roots...it is certainly hard living for a large number of folks that call the Delta home. I always say, if you can make it [out of] the Delta, you can make it anywhere. The problem is, and showing [my] form of hypocrisy, those that do make it out seldom return...

And, these actions help perpetuate the 'dying on the vine' problem that persists there. Outside of Clarksdale, Cleveland, Greenwood, Greenville, Vicksburg, (and now Tunica - which is becoming an extension to Memphis) there is literally nothing there. Sadly, I think the very few with vested power in the Delta would not have it any other way...there is long, rich old money there.

Back on track, I think Jay's new contract will allow him to grow as an HC and I remain optimistic that he comes good soon (hopefully in '18 through however long he decides to be our HBC). It's a good move IMO.

I’m not anti-Delta. I’m disagreeing with USM fans that think the Delta weighs MS down, when the state wouldn’t go up much in the rankings even without it.

(08-29-2018 10:24 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 12:35 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:45 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:18 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Not likely tbh. They will, however, likely score much higher on testing than their public school peers, exceed in college, then get higher paying jobs than their public school peers.

My church homeschool network teaches kids life skills, in addition to academics. So they will be taught public speaking, leadership skills, know how to balance a budget, and score higher on standardized tests. All while avoiding drugs, violence, and an early exposure to porn/sex that they are getting in the public system.

When are people going to learn the “personality” excuse is a lazy cop out. With a little bit of intentionality you can make sure your kids are properly socialized.

We have four children (ages 4-8) across the street who are "homeschooled" and they have the vocabulary of kids raised in the wild by wolves. They also run nekkid around their pool for all to see (hey! maybe they WERE raised by wolves) and use choice curse words they hear from parents or their friends. (so you can't blame the school system). Now, they did have a TRUMP for President sign during the election, so that might 'splain everything.

Seems these folks did fine with public schools: Oprah, Steve Jobs, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Warren Buffett (for that matter, JIMMY Buffett!), Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook (Robertsdale HS in Alabama) etc etc etc HOW DID THEY SURVIVE?

I think your confused. The real problem with those kids is not that they are homeschooled, it’s the fact that they’re from Mississippi. Also public school used to be much better. All of the people you listed went to school when teachers received their last pay raise. Now public schools have 45 kids to a class with teachers hidden behind bullet proof glass. Welcome to 2018.

I completely disagree. Some schools may be like that, but there are still some good public schools. My kids go to one... in Mississippi.

My kids will also be going to a great public school Ocean Springs. Pretty much the entire Gulf Coast of Mississippi has good public schools.

(08-29-2018 11:09 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(08-29-2018 07:10 AM)DNEagle Wrote:  Whoa, I'm from Cleveland...graduated from East Side High (now Cleveland Central HS) C/O '94. I am proud of my Delta roots...it is certainly hard living for a large number of folks that call the Delta home. I always say, if you can make it [out of] the Delta, you can make it anywhere. The problem is, and showing [my] form of hypocrisy, those that do make it out seldom return...

And, these actions help perpetuate the 'dying on the vine' problem that persists there. Outside of Clarksdale, Cleveland, Greenwood, Greenville, Vicksburg, (and now Tunica - which is becoming an extension to Memphis) there is literally nothing there. Sadly, I think the very few with vested power in the Delta would not have it any other way...there is long, rich old money there.

Back on track, I think Jay's new contract will allow him to grow as an HC and I remain optimistic that he comes good soon (hopefully in '18 through however long he decides to be our HBC). It's a good move IMO.

I’m not anti-Delta. I’m disagreeing with USM fans that think the Delta weighs MS down, when the state wouldn’t go up much in the rankings even without it.

Oh...no problem and my apologies if my post came off that way. I just saw "Delta" and the context evolution of this thread, and got a little excited to speak a little about my homeland.

Again, my apologies if my post was taken in any other way.

clt says Jay Hopson doesn't know how to read an analog clock

(08-29-2018 01:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  clt says Jay Hopson doesn't know how to read an analog clock

clt didn’t say that, jabroni.

(08-29-2018 06:03 PM)ghostofclt Wrote:  

(08-29-2018 01:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  clt says Jay Hopson doesn't know how to read an analog clock

clt didn’t say that, jabroni.

You calling me a liar?

(08-28-2018 12:35 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:45 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:18 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

Not likely tbh. They will, however, likely score much higher on testing than their public school peers, exceed in college, then get higher paying jobs than their public school peers.

My church homeschool network teaches kids life skills, in addition to academics. So they will be taught public speaking, leadership skills, know how to balance a budget, and score higher on standardized tests. All while avoiding drugs, violence, and an early exposure to porn/sex that they are getting in the public system.

When are people going to learn the “personality” excuse is a lazy cop out. With a little bit of intentionality you can make sure your kids are properly socialized.

We have four children (ages 4-8) across the street who are "homeschooled" and they have the vocabulary of kids raised in the wild by wolves. They also run nekkid around their pool for all to see (hey! maybe they WERE raised by wolves) and use choice curse words they hear from parents or their friends. (so you can't blame the school system). Now, they did have a TRUMP for President sign during the election, so that might 'splain everything.

Seems these folks did fine with public schools: Oprah, Steve Jobs, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Warren Buffett (for that matter, JIMMY Buffett!), Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook (Robertsdale HS in Alabama) etc etc etc HOW DID THEY SURVIVE?

I think your confused. The real problem with those kids is not that they are homeschooled, it’s the fact that they’re from Mississippi.

Pot, meet kettle.

(08-28-2018 12:55 PM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 12:35 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:45 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:18 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Not likely tbh. They will, however, likely score much higher on testing than their public school peers, exceed in college, then get higher paying jobs than their public school peers.

My church homeschool network teaches kids life skills, in addition to academics. So they will be taught public speaking, leadership skills, know how to balance a budget, and score higher on standardized tests. All while avoiding drugs, violence, and an early exposure to porn/sex that they are getting in the public system.

When are people going to learn the “personality” excuse is a lazy cop out. With a little bit of intentionality you can make sure your kids are properly socialized.

We have four children (ages 4-8) across the street who are "homeschooled" and they have the vocabulary of kids raised in the wild by wolves. They also run nekkid around their pool for all to see (hey! maybe they WERE raised by wolves) and use choice curse words they hear from parents or their friends. (so you can't blame the school system). Now, they did have a TRUMP for President sign during the election, so that might 'splain everything.

Seems these folks did fine with public schools: Oprah, Steve Jobs, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Warren Buffett (for that matter, JIMMY Buffett!), Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook (Robertsdale HS in Alabama) etc etc etc HOW DID THEY SURVIVE?

I think your confused. The real problem with those kids is not that they are homeschooled, it’s the fact that they’re from Mississippi. Also public school used to be much better. All of the people you listed went to school when teachers received their last pay raise. Now public schools have 45 kids to a class with teachers hidden behind bullet proof glass. Welcome to 2018.

Uhh, I live in Florida and their parents are from Indiana...so your not so subtle prejudice is wrong again, ho hum.

HAHA! Make that - Pot, meet pot. LOL @ Florida

(08-28-2018 11:45 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 11:18 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:50 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 10:04 AM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(08-28-2018 08:30 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/eco...079181001/

For a K-12 education being the 29th ranked stated is nothing to brag about, but it’s much better than Mississippi’s 48th place spot. Luckily for me my children will be home schooled and can take advantage of the best state for higher education (and 2nd cheapest).

Couldn't homeschooling hurt their personality and make them socially awkward?

Not likely tbh. They will, however, likely score much higher on testing than their public school peers, exceed in college, then get higher paying jobs than their public school peers.

My church homeschool network teaches kids life skills, in addition to academics. So they will be taught public speaking, leadership skills, know how to balance a budget, and score higher on standardized tests. All while avoiding drugs, violence, and an early exposure to porn/sex that they are getting in the public system.

When are people going to learn the “personality” excuse is a lazy cop out. With a little bit of intentionality you can make sure your kids are properly socialized.

We have four children (ages 4-8) across the street who are "homeschooled" and they have the vocabulary of kids raised in the wild by wolves. They also run nekkid around their pool for all to see (hey! maybe they WERE raised by wolves) and use choice curse words they hear from parents or their friends. (so you can't blame the school system). Now, they did have a TRUMP for President sign during the election, so that might 'splain everything.

Seems these folks did fine with public schools: Oprah, Steve Jobs, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Warren Buffett (for that matter, JIMMY Buffett!), Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook (Robertsdale HS in Alabama) etc etc etc HOW DID THEY SURVIVE?

I am starting to wonder if those same wolves are now in the state of Alabama and teaching my son or trying to teach my son in preschool. Might explain all that biting he’s been doing lately !!

Relevant to this thread. (stolen from Bleacher Eagle on EaglePost):
FWIW

(07-02-2018 09:33 AM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  FYI: Total Allocated = "The sum of student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money allocated to the athletics department, minus certain funds the department transferred back to the school"

These ranking to me are misleading due to the "Allocated" funds. It's amazing how much some of the other schools depend on student fees and money from the school itself. Ours is the lowest in the conference at around 36%.

Here are the CUSA ranking minus the allocated funds:

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RK  School                  Conf     Total Revenue minus Allocated Funds    Total Revenue   Total Expenses  Total Allocated
67  Old Dominion            C-USA    $17,522,301                            $46,203,813     $46,181,753     $28,681,512
126 Southern Mississippi    C-USA    $15,152,035                            $23,984,639     $25,251,618     $8,832,604
104 Marshall                C-USA    $14,941,797                            $29,287,471     $30,342,248     $14,345,674
125 Louisiana Tech          C-USA    $14,035,665                            $24,722,695     $23,828,481     $10,687,030
100 Western Kentucky        C-USA    $13,585,149                            $30,439,066     $30,439,067     $16,853,917
95  Texas-El Paso           C-USA    $13,295,339                            $31,781,343     $32,039,189     $18,486,004
76  Charlotte               C-USA    $12,221,906                            $37,931,802     $33,246,728     $25,709,896
87  Middle Tennessee        C-USA    $11,663,536                            $34,040,334     $34,040,334     $22,376,798
107 Texas-San Antonio       C-USA    $11,386,703                            $28,772,631     $30,104,385     $17,385,928
94  North Texas             C-USA    $10,751,742                            $32,150,203     $36,363,381     $21,398,461
84  Florida Atlantic        C-USA    $10,556,098                            $34,509,259     $34,102,683     $23,953,161
89  Florida International   C-USA    $9,361,171                             $33,389,929     $33,003,699     $24,028,758
124 Alabama at Birmingham   C-USA    $9,314,790                             $24,795,218     $23,803,547     $15,480,428