Sorry if already posted:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

One year out from the launch of the ACC Network, the conference’s schools are spending more than $100 million on production capabilities, infrastructure and staff in preparation for what they hope will be a cash windfall.

(08-09-2018 09:52 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Sorry if already posted:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

One year out from the launch of the ACC Network, the conference’s schools are spending more than $100 million on production capabilities, infrastructure and staff in preparation for what they hope will be a cash windfall.

Key quote:
"Neither the conference office nor the schools are disclosing their revenue projections, but some reports have suggested $10 million to $15 million in per-school revenue annually from the network — lofty expectations indeed that would have to be based on full distribution throughout the league’s footprint."

$10 million a year would put the ACC even with where the B1G is now. $15 million a year would put the ACC ahead of where the SEC is now. We'll see.

(08-09-2018 09:52 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Sorry if already posted:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

One year out from the launch of the ACC Network, the conference’s schools are spending more than $100 million on production capabilities, infrastructure and staff in preparation for what they hope will be a cash windfall.

Now that was a very enlightening article that goes into details about startup and infrastructure at the schools and some differences between the SECN and the ACCN. Thanks for posting Hokie4skins.

I wish someone had the TOTAL expenditures for SEC schools. It sounds like they'd spent significant amounts of money (may just as much?) AFTER the SECN was launched...

(08-09-2018 10:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 09:52 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Sorry if already posted:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

One year out from the launch of the ACC Network, the conference’s schools are spending more than $100 million on production capabilities, infrastructure and staff in preparation for what they hope will be a cash windfall.

Key quote:
"Neither the conference office nor the schools are disclosing their revenue projections, but some reports have suggested $10 million to $15 million in per-school revenue annually from the network — lofty expectations indeed that would have to be based on full distribution throughout the league’s footprint."

$10 million a year would put the ACC even with where the B1G is now. $15 million a year would put the ACC ahead of where the SEC is now. We'll see.

I'd be happy with $7 million. And I suspect the B1G maybe headed lower, to where even that number would get the ACC even with them.

(08-09-2018 11:49 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 10:50 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 09:52 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Sorry if already posted:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

One year out from the launch of the ACC Network, the conference’s schools are spending more than $100 million on production capabilities, infrastructure and staff in preparation for what they hope will be a cash windfall.

Key quote:
"Neither the conference office nor the schools are disclosing their revenue projections, but some reports have suggested $10 million to $15 million in per-school revenue annually from the network — lofty expectations indeed that would have to be based on full distribution throughout the league’s footprint."

$10 million a year would put the ACC even with where the B1G is now. $15 million a year would put the ACC ahead of where the SEC is now. We'll see.

I'd be happy with $7 million. And I suspect the B1G maybe headed lower, to where even that number would get the ACC even with them.

The first year will be in that ball park. Also, expect various providers to play games with the ACC over getting distribution. ESPN is no stranger to playing hardball. The ACC has an AD at Syracuse who knows this game better than anyone.

Altice coming on so early was huge. You can thank Cuse and Notre Dame a few others for that.

https://deadline.com/2017/10/disney-alti...202182840/

There is no way in hell they gain $10m a year in year one. No way. No how. That flies in the face of ever other estimate I've heard and history from the BTN/SECN/PACN/LHN.

(08-09-2018 12:36 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  There is no way in hell they gain $10m a year in year one. No way. No how. That flies in the face of ever other estimate I've heard and history from the BTN/SECN/PACN/LHN.

We'll see but the population in the ACC footprint is far greater than the population any other conference has in its footprint.

There is some advantage in following after the B1G and the SEC. They've established precedents for the negotiations with cable and satellite operators. Maybe the SEC rollout went so well because the B1G had already paved the way. The way is even better paved now.

(08-09-2018 12:36 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  There is no way in hell they gain $10m a year in year one. No way. No how. That flies in the face of ever other estimate I've heard and history from the BTN/SECN/PACN/LHN.

money is secondary ...
a network to call our very own ...

IT'S ALL GRAVY

(08-09-2018 01:01 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 12:36 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  There is no way in hell they gain $10m a year in year one. No way. No how. That flies in the face of ever other estimate I've heard and history from the BTN/SECN/PACN/LHN.

We'll see but (1) the population in the ACC footprint is far greater than the population any other conference has in its footprint.

There is some advantage in following after the B1G and the SEC. (2) They've established precedents for the negotiations with cable and satellite operators. Maybe the SEC rollout went so well because the B1G had already paved the way. The way is even better paved now.

These are 2 significant points, IMO. You could add (3) cord-cutting may have made cable companies even more desperate for loyal customers - like college sports fans.

Will the schools only produce non-revenue events or will they produce the content for football and men's basketball? I assume in basketball and football ESPN will still provide the announcers or could that have a local flavor also?

I am curious to see what ads\sponsors will be during the commercials; I wonder if it will be filled with Bo Jangles and McAllister's Deli

(08-09-2018 01:10 PM)green Wrote:  money is secondary ...
a network to call our very own ...

IT'S ALL GRAVY

Of all people who'd understand that recruits by and large don't give two craps about academics or more reasonable things and only whores, easy A's, rock climbing walls, and laser tag pavilions you'd think Miami fans would be near the top.

Money matters if you want to compete in the current landscape. The NCAA is content to let this freight train steam away uncontrolled into the land of absurdity, corruption, and debauchery. If the ACC continues to be 8 figures behind a year it simply will no longer exist sooner or later. It's just that simple. And you'll find nothing but a bitter and resentful taste in most of the conference mouths for "look, we closed the gap to high 7 figures!". Unless the ACC is smart enough to round up enough votes in the Pac-12 and Big 12 to put a regulatory stop to this (HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA), then your check book had better at least get you close.

And while there's several schools who will likely quietly feel confident that they'll have a soft landing spot should the ACC dissolve, those are short sighted views. How are Maryland and Rutgers doing in the Big Ten? Oh right, getting their arse handed to them. Being in the Big Ten is a death sentence for Maryland football. Any ACC team at or south of Blacksburg, VA it's a similar death sentence to play football in the Big Ten. You simply won't have enough games in areas where recruits actually come from. So you'll be forced to go outside your foot print to get them. And good luck writing bigger checks than Ohio State and Michigan to do that.

(08-09-2018 03:29 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  If the ACC continues to be 8 figures behind a year it simply will no longer exist sooner or later.

I'm scared ...

WHERE WILL IT GO

(08-09-2018 03:29 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(08-09-2018 01:10 PM)green Wrote:  money is secondary ...
a network to call our very own ...

IT'S ALL GRAVY

Of all people who'd understand that recruits by and large don't give two craps about academics or more reasonable things and only whores, easy A's, rock climbing walls, and laser tag pavilions you'd think Miami fans would be near the top.

Money matters if you want to compete in the current landscape. The NCAA is content to let this freight train steam away uncontrolled into the land of absurdity, corruption, and debauchery. If the ACC continues to be 8 figures behind a year it simply will no longer exist sooner or later. It's just that simple. And you'll find nothing but a bitter and resentful taste in most of the conference mouths for "look, we closed the gap to high 7 figures!". Unless the ACC is smart enough to round up enough votes in the Pac-12 and Big 12 to put a regulatory stop to this (HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA), then your check book had better at least get you close.

And while there's several schools who will likely quietly feel confident that they'll have a soft landing spot should the ACC dissolve, those are short sighted views. How are Maryland and Rutgers doing in the Big Ten? Oh right, getting their arse handed to them. Being in the Big Ten is a death sentence for Maryland football. Any ACC team at or south of Blacksburg, VA it's a similar death sentence to play football in the Big Ten. You simply won't have enough games in areas where recruits actually come from. So you'll be forced to go outside your foot print to get them. And good luck writing bigger checks than Ohio State and Michigan to do that.

At that point the decision for most of the ACC schools will be to follow the SEC into the sewer or to drop down a level or even go into an "IVY" mode.
For schools like Wake Forest and Georgia Tech (who have not shown the ability generate mega dollars) or schools like Duke (on principle) that may be an easy decision.
Florida State would have no problem with the SEC model, Clemson would suffer from the lack of revenue, but still would be tempted by the siren's song (but long term disappointment). Carolina and UVa would act in concert and could go one of three ways (with the B1G being an option). My money would be for the pair to stay with Duke, Wake and Georgia Tech. At that point the B1G may turn their attention to Va. Tech and NC State (both would actually "fit" the B1G nicely).

To revisit what I said earlier .... the ACC threw away a lot of things it valued to get to where it is today. All in the explicit pursuit of money. We threw away geography. We threw away academics. We threw away scheduling. We threw away control of game times. We threw away no weekday games other than Thursday. And all every step of the way because of the promise of a bigger paycheck.

If all that was for naught then what the hell are we doing? It won't take long for those chickens to come back home and roost without the hush money that was promised to paper over those things. If TV dollar expansion had never happened ... the only expansion school which would have been a fit was the one the ACC tried to avoid adding in the first place: Virginia Tech.

(08-09-2018 01:10 PM)green Wrote:  money is secondary ...
a network to call our very own ...

IT'S ALL GRAVY

That's some doggone expensive gravy!

Quote:It wasn’t that long ago that skeptics doubted whether an ACC Network would ever get off the ground, given ESPN’s cost cutting and the shifting media landscape away from cable.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS

(08-10-2018 11:58 AM)green Wrote:  

Quote:It wasn’t that long ago that skeptics doubted whether an ACC Network would ever get off the ground, given ESPN’s cost cutting and the shifting media landscape away from cable.

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jour...story.aspx

COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS

Good point, Green!
2012 - "the ACC won't be included among the power conferences"
2013 - "the ACC won't stay together"
2014 - "the ACC won't get a team into the playoffs"
2015 - "the ACC won't win a CFP championship"
2016 - "the ACC will never get an ACC Network"
2017 - "the ACC Network won't make any money"
2018 - "the ACC Network won't make enough money"
2019 - ???