(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

(07-27-2018 11:08 AM)Limebull Wrote:  Didn’t Southern Miss get crushed by a mediocre (at best) FSU team? And UTEP is UTEP.
Not good looks for opponents. Especially from the G4.

Right, b/c USF has fared so much better against Florida State the last three times you played them.

(07-27-2018 11:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

I think based on their schedule and knowing how CUSA was in b-ball last year, I think it would be fair to say they probably would have fit right in line with La Tech and Southern Miss. oddly enough, their closest comp would probably be Southern Miss!

I don’t think they would have broken through our top 6 last year. Very strange they were able to pull off a road win at Temple and a win at home against a good Houston team. But struggled with just about everyone else.

(07-27-2018 12:56 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 11:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

I think based on their schedule and knowing how CUSA was in b-ball last year, I think it would be fair to say they probably would have fit right in line with La Tech and Southern Miss. oddly enough, their closest comp would probably be Southern Miss!

I don’t think they would have broken through our top 6 last year. Very strange they were able to pull off a road win at Temple and a win at home against a good Houston team. But struggled with just about everyone else.

i dont get that comp at all.. usm had 1 top 150 win..tulane had 5.. usm also had drastically worse losses

that is a horrible comp....saying tulane would have broken into the top 6 is a bias on your part as tulane had better rpi than some in your top 6

utsa was #5 in c-usa
utsa had 6 200+ rpi losses, tulane only had 2
tulane had 5 top 150 wins, utsa had 2 total

tulane had more 4stars than almost anyone in c-usa, a higher draft pick than anyone in c-usa, a more proven head coach than anyone in c-usa, a higher rpi and resume than all but 4 team in c-usa but you dont think they would have broken into the top 6 in c-usa?? almost every metric say otherwise

Tulane is a fricking panty-waste. No way I EVER give them respect. They have to EARN it all. They punted on 3rd down! They are an embarrassment to athletics.

(07-27-2018 01:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 12:56 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 11:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

I think based on their schedule and knowing how CUSA was in b-ball last year, I think it would be fair to say they probably would have fit right in line with La Tech and Southern Miss. oddly enough, their closest comp would probably be Southern Miss!

I don’t think they would have broken through our top 6 last year. Very strange they were able to pull off a road win at Temple and a win at home against a good Houston team. But struggled with just about everyone else.

i dont get that comp at all.. usm had 1 top 150 win..tulane had 5.. usm also had drastically worse losses

that is a horrible comp....saying tulane would have broken into the top 6 is a bias on your part as tulane had better rpi than some in your top 6

utsa was #5 in c-usa
utsa had 6 200+ rpi losses, tulane only had 2
tulane had 5 top 150 wins, utsa had 2 total

tulane had more 4stars than almost anyone in c-usa, a higher draft pick than anyone in c-usa, a more proven head coach than anyone in c-usa, a higher rpi and resume than all but 4 team in c-usa but you dont think they would have broken into the top 6 in c-usa?? almost every metric say otherwise

We'll never know, because mean ole Houston and Memphis are so scary.

Look, harder schedules make it harder to win games. That's fine, we get that (some of us). But when you're Tulane, you probably ought to be a little careful about using the old "hey, we're not playing these pushovers anymore *no disrespect*" card. Because Tulane hasn't done anything and the pushovers aren't going to take it well from a traditional pushover, no matter how many 4 star players they may have on a given team.

That kind of thing is hard enough to hear from a Utah or TCU type situation, coming from a program like Tulane. . .

clt is glad that cusa fans understand this isn’t a long term deal for Charlotte.

What the AAC boy is saying, is that Tulane INVESTED some of that AAC money (it's like pixie dust, y'all!), and since little old Southern Miss doesn't have any AAC money, that makes Tulane much much much better than when they were slumming it in C-USA.

And by AAC logic, he's absolutely positively correct.

Cannot wait to play them in football again. Just simply cannot wait.

(07-27-2018 01:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 12:56 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 11:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

I think based on their schedule and knowing how CUSA was in b-ball last year, I think it would be fair to say they probably would have fit right in line with La Tech and Southern Miss. oddly enough, their closest comp would probably be Southern Miss!

I don’t think they would have broken through our top 6 last year. Very strange they were able to pull off a road win at Temple and a win at home against a good Houston team. But struggled with just about everyone else.

i dont get that comp at all.. usm had 1 top 150 win..tulane had 5.. usm also had drastically worse losses

that is a horrible comp....saying tulane would have broken into the top 6 is a bias on your part as tulane had better rpi than some in your top 6

utsa was #5 in c-usa
utsa had 6 200+ rpi losses, tulane only had 2
tulane had 5 top 150 wins, utsa had 2 total

tulane had more 4stars than almost anyone in c-usa, a higher draft pick than anyone in c-usa, a more proven head coach than anyone in c-usa, a higher rpi and resume than all but 4 team in c-usa but you dont think they would have broken into the top 6 in c-usa?? almost every metric say otherwise

I didn’t realize Tulane had so much talent on the court and on the bench last year. Looks to me like they clearly underperformed as #9 AAC (KenPom 171) at 14-17.

Had they played in CUSA they would surely also have underperformed. Their true “comp” toss-up on a neutral court was UTSA #7 C-USA (KenPom 174) at 20-14.

So if you actually believe RPI is a valid metric... then yay, Tulane is awesome!
If you believe 20 wins is proof you’ve got a top notch national program then yay, UTSA does! And a valid- but very poorly made- point —Tulane could have had 20 wins playing in CUSA.

Truth is both teams played true mid-pack-D1 ball last year. That’s great for UTSA as they’re on a nice upswing. For what Tulane put on the floor... that’s severely underperforming no matter how you slice it. The AD can kick himself privately since they could have definitely had a winning record playing in another league. But it’s a pretty lame excuse to do so publicly.

(Kenpom.com — Check it out if you want a true measure of basketball performance on the court. And yeah USM #8 CUSA (KenPom 206) 14-16 would have been a 4-point underdog to either team, so UTSA is a better Comp)

(07-28-2018 08:16 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 01:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 12:56 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 11:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

I think based on their schedule and knowing how CUSA was in b-ball last year, I think it would be fair to say they probably would have fit right in line with La Tech and Southern Miss. oddly enough, their closest comp would probably be Southern Miss!

I don’t think they would have broken through our top 6 last year. Very strange they were able to pull off a road win at Temple and a win at home against a good Houston team. But struggled with just about everyone else.

i dont get that comp at all.. usm had 1 top 150 win..tulane had 5.. usm also had drastically worse losses

that is a horrible comp....saying tulane would have broken into the top 6 is a bias on your part as tulane had better rpi than some in your top 6

utsa was #5 in c-usa
utsa had 6 200+ rpi losses, tulane only had 2
tulane had 5 top 150 wins, utsa had 2 total

tulane had more 4stars than almost anyone in c-usa, a higher draft pick than anyone in c-usa, a more proven head coach than anyone in c-usa, a higher rpi and resume than all but 4 team in c-usa but you dont think they would have broken into the top 6 in c-usa?? almost every metric say otherwise

I didn’t realize Tulane had so much talent on the court and on the bench last year. Looks to me like they clearly underperformed as #9 AAC (KenPom 171) at 14-17.

Had they played in CUSA they would surely also have underperformed. Their true “comp” toss-up on a neutral court was UTSA #7 C-USA (KenPom 174) at 20-14.

So if you actually believe RPI is a valid metric... then yay, Tulane is awesome!
If you believe 20 wins is proof you’ve got a top notch national program then yay, UTSA does! And a valid- but very poorly made- point —Tulane could have had 20 wins playing in CUSA.

Truth is both teams played true mid-pack-D1 ball last year. That’s great for UTSA as they’re on a nice upswing. For what Tulane put on the floor... that’s severely underperforming no matter how you slice it. The AD can kick himself privately since they could have definitely had a winning record playing in another league. But it’s a pretty lame excuse to do so publicly.

(Kenpom.com — Check it out if you want a true measure of basketball performance on the court. And yeah USM #8 CUSA (KenPom 206) 14-16 would have been a 4-point underdog to either team, so UTSA is a better Comp)

^. Great post!

(07-28-2018 08:16 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  I didn’t realize Tulane had so much talent on the court and on the bench last year. Looks to me like they clearly underperformed as #9 AAC (KenPom 171) at 14-17.

Had they played in CUSA they would surely also have underperformed. Their true “comp” toss-up on a neutral court was UTSA #7 C-USA (KenPom 174) at 20-14.

So if you actually believe RPI is a valid metric... then yay, Tulane is awesome!
If you believe 20 wins is proof you’ve got a top notch national program then yay, UTSA does! And a valid- but very poorly made- point —Tulane could have had 20 wins playing in CUSA.

Truth is both teams played true mid-pack-D1 ball last year. That’s great for UTSA as they’re on a nice upswing. For what Tulane put on the floor... that’s severely underperforming no matter how you slice it. The AD can kick himself privately since they could have definitely had a winning record playing in another league. But it’s a pretty lame excuse to do so publicly.

(Kenpom.com — Check it out if you want a true measure of basketball performance on the court. And yeah USM #8 CUSA (KenPom 206) 14-16 would have been a 4-point underdog to either team, so UTSA is a better Comp)

a very basic counter to your argument, all because Tulane has talent doesnt mean everyone else n the aac didnt have talent
ecu was the only aac team without atleast 1 4star on roster...

ucf is the only top 9 aac team that hasnt made a ncaa tournament since being in the aac (and that is because tacko fall cant stay healthy, but they are the preseason favorite next year)

andy katz just released his aac preview, he literally says he wouldnt be surprised if anyone in his aac projected top 9 made the tournament, and thinks we put 5 in

tulane didnt underperform they finished where they were expected too in the playing field of the aac. which was my very point, about the disparity on level...
by all measuring sticks tulane should have finished 10th in the aac, those same measuring sticks would have had Tulane 4th or 5th in the C-usa and likely 20 wins in the cbi or cit

also ive had this dumb long debate with wichita fans last year, kenpom is unless in judging teams that are playing at different levels...kenpom is almost completely based on point differential with a slight adjustment for SOS (and the adjustment isnt that big, normally around 10pts)..good teams in bad conferences will always be over-hyped in kenpom
if people believed in kenpom gonzaga should have been a 3 seed, they were a 8 seed

according to kenpom last year Wichita should have wiped the floor with everyone in the aac with EASE, all in blowouts. we tried to tell them that you cant use kenpom ratings based around mvc blowouts as a measuring stick to how you will do in the aac (spoilers they didnt)....you wont get those kind of differentials in this league....good mid-majors love kenpom for that reason

i like ken-pom but i dont like it for judging teams that arent anywhere in the same level of play

(07-27-2018 01:49 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 12:56 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 11:33 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(07-27-2018 10:57 AM)rileylives Wrote:  it's kind of a strange argument if you think about it. Because everyone knows the American is a fantastic basketball conference, that's not the argument were making.

The argument we are making is how silly is it for him to believe they would be much better off or with better record in a conference that they left. They never had success in basketball before, and this (CUSA) is a conference that seemingly held or constantly improved in that area since that great departure.

By the way Tulane, if that's how you believe put your damn money where your mouth is. Leave the American and come back to Conference USA.

We still wouldn't want them.

tulane was a top 175 rpi team in basketball...better than the majority of c-usa.
their team is loaded with 4 stars; melvin frazier (nba 1st round pick), samhir sehic, jordan cornish...ray ona embo wasnt an elite recruit, but is seen as a one of the better nba prospects for next years draft...

they had more top 150 wins than all but 2 c-usa teams ..only 2 of their losses were to 200+ rpi teams
their head coach would probably be the most respected in c-usa (took an nba team to the finals). Stansbury is the only one that could even make a debate

you might think its silly, but anyone who actually looks at tulane's basketball team last year will guarantee theyd have won more games in c-usa...i dont think that is even a debate for anyone who is looking at the numbers

I think based on their schedule and knowing how CUSA was in b-ball last year, I think it would be fair to say they probably would have fit right in line with La Tech and Southern Miss. oddly enough, their closest comp would probably be Southern Miss!

I don’t think they would have broken through our top 6 last year. Very strange they were able to pull off a road win at Temple and a win at home against a good Houston team. But struggled with just about everyone else.

i dont get that comp at all.. usm had 1 top 150 win..tulane had 5.. usm also had drastically worse losses

that is a horrible comp....saying tulane would have broken into the top 6 is a bias on your part as tulane had better rpi than some in your top 6

utsa was #5 in c-usa
utsa had 6 200+ rpi losses, tulane only had 2
tulane had 5 top 150 wins, utsa had 2 total

tulane had more 4stars than almost anyone in c-usa, a higher draft pick than anyone in c-usa, a more proven head coach than anyone in c-usa, a higher rpi and resume than all but 4 team in c-usa but you dont think they would have broken into the top 6 in c-usa?? almost every metric say otherwise

Tulane punted on 3rd down vs Southern Miss. You can never get your balls back after that

All of you AAC'ers defending a douchebag AD and an underperforming program talking smack about teams they couldn't even beat on a consistent basis are cracking me up. Also, this was about football but the basketball argument is stupid on many levels on it's own.

USF beat Southern Miss in football ONE time, and we had a field goal sail wide right with no time on the clock to lose 13-10 after we beat the immortal Jim Leavitt 41-7 the previous year at our place. Louisville, UCF, Memphis, Houston and all of your brethren in the AAC all have losing records against USM except Cincy. There is not a ONE of you who have beaten Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn all on the road in a single season. Until you can say that you done the same with your 25% winning percentage against Southern Miss, then STFU! We are a better football program than anyone in the AAC still to this day, even after the Ellis Johnson hire which was an SEC conspiracy! UCF 25% winning margin against Southern Miss. Louisville 35%, Tulane, 20%, USF 25%, Tulane 30%.

What does USF have a winning record in Men's sports against Southern Miss, Tiddly Winks? FU

Another point, how many AAC teams have signed Southern Miss to a series contract since the league changed in 2012? Tulane in 2021? We had availability in the past 6 years, but I do not see UCF, Louisville, Cincy, Houston, Memphis or anyone reaching out.
How many National Championship coaches has USF or UCF defeated in a single ball game? Start measuring that against Southern Miss and get back to me. Bryant. Schnellenberger, Dye, Bowden, Vaught? Zero, right>

(07-29-2018 12:01 AM)WillyEagle Wrote:  USF beat Southern Miss in football ONE time, and we had a field goal sail wide right with no time on the clock to lose 13-10 after we beat the immortal Jim Leavitt 41-7 the previous year at our place. Louisville, UCF, Memphis, Houston and all of your brethren in the AAC all have losing records against USM except Cincy. There is not a ONE of you who have beaten Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn all on the road in a single season. Until you can say that you done the same with your 25% winning percentage against Southern Miss, then STFU! We are a better football program than anyone in the AAC still to this day, even after the Ellis Johnson hire which was an SEC conspiracy! UCF 25% winning margin against Southern Miss. Louisville 35%, Tulane, 20%, USF 25%, Tulane 30%.

What does USF have a winning record in Men's sports against Southern Miss, Tiddly Winks? FU

The only losses ever to ucf was the year we fired Bower and a overtime loss when we fired ELLLLLLLLLLLLos

(07-28-2018 11:32 PM)BlueraiderJT Wrote:  All of you AAC'ers defending a douchebag AD and an underperforming program talking smack about teams they couldn't even beat on a consistent basis are cracking me up. Also, this was about football but the basketball argument is stupid on many levels on it's own.

Actually no, the Tulane athletic director is specifically talking about basketball, not football. Football somehow got dragged into the conversation, not the other way around.

(07-25-2018 10:25 AM)inutech Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 09:39 AM)usm99 Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 09:02 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(07-25-2018 08:31 AM)inutech Wrote:  Southern Miss is no Memphis?

Was he born like 3 years ago?

Must be. Very strange comment from him. Especially when you consider Southern Miss owns their head-to-head football series with Tulane, 23-7. And even UTEP football holds their series edge over Tulane, 5-4.

Overall in the series it started out 4-4 and over the last 30 years (we last played them in 2010) our record vs Tulane is 19-3....so that 19-3 record from 1987 to present equates to 1 win for Tulane every 7 or so years against us.

It's obviously harder to play Houston than UTEP, but back when they were playing UTEP, Houston was in the conference, too (at least part of the time). And Memphis is on a good 4 year run, but when Tulane was playing USM, they were playing Memphis who was bad and USM who was good.

I get that he's trying to say the SOS is harder than it might otherwise be, or is harder than it used to be - but he didn't make the point very well.

While true that Memphis has had some rough patches and some purely awful teams. They still haven't lost to Tulane since 2000, and never went winless during that time. Such as Southern or UCF. So Memphis pretty much owns Tulane in football too. (11) in a row, I think. 22-11-1 all time

On the other hand, Memphis has lost to Tulane in basketball, as recently as 2016 or 2017. Can't really remember. Anywho, the statements made were in regards to BASKETBALL, so have fun, taking the topic completely off the rails. In an attempt to prove a point.

GBO
GTG

(07-29-2018 01:39 AM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(07-29-2018 12:01 AM)WillyEagle Wrote:  USF beat Southern Miss in football ONE time, and we had a field goal sail wide right with no time on the clock to lose 13-10 after we beat the immortal Jim Leavitt 41-7 the previous year at our place. Louisville, UCF, Memphis, Houston and all of your brethren in the AAC all have losing records against USM except Cincy. There is not a ONE of you who have beaten Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn all on the road in a single season. Until you can say that you done the same with your 25% winning percentage against Southern Miss, then STFU! We are a better football program than anyone in the AAC still to this day, even after the Ellis Johnson hire which was an SEC conspiracy! UCF 25% winning margin against Southern Miss. Louisville 35%, Tulane, 20%, USF 25%, Tulane 30%.

What does USF have a winning record in Men's sports against Southern Miss, Tiddly Winks? FU

The only losses ever to ucf was the year we fired Bower and a overtime loss when we fired ELLLLLLLLLLLLos

Wow, you Southern fans have a stick stuck somewhere sensitive today. Conversation was in regards to basketball SOS, as clearly stated. Way to be completely idiotic, without rationale, at the same time.

I routinely root for Southern Miss, and wish they were a part of the AAC. So don't come back at me with this same whiskey fueled rhetoric, I tagged you in, above.

Be civil, you fool!

GBO
GTG

(07-29-2018 12:01 AM)WillyEagle Wrote:  USF beat Southern Miss in football ONE time, and we had a field goal sail wide right with no time on the clock to lose 13-10 after we beat the immortal Jim Leavitt 41-7 the previous year at our place. Louisville, UCF, Memphis, Houston and all of your brethren in the AAC all have losing records against USM except Cincy. There is not a ONE of you who have beaten Alabama, Florida State, and Auburn all on the road in a single season. Until you can say that you done the same with your 25% winning percentage against Southern Miss, then STFU! We are a better football program than anyone in the AAC still to this day, even after the Ellis Johnson hire which was an SEC conspiracy! UCF 25% winning margin against Southern Miss. Louisville 35%, Tulane, 20%, USF 25%, Tulane 30%.

What does USF have a winning record in Men's sports against Southern Miss, Tiddly Winks? FU

Houston might beg to argue that point. Seeing as how they've played in a couple of Cotton Bowls and a Peach Bowl 3 years ago.

Conspiracy??? Unless your AD was also a co-conspirator. Which, wouldn't that at the very least, be self-inflicted? Get a grip on reality man.

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