Quote:LAS VEGAS (AP) - Nevada plans to carry out its first execution in 12 years using a never-before-tried combination of drugs that drew a court challenge over concerns that a convicted murderer could suffer during the lethal injection.

Scott Raymond Dozier is scheduled to die July 11, Department of Corrections spokeswoman Brooke Santina said Wednesday, a day after a judge in Las Vegas signed the death warrant.

The state Supreme Court decided last month not to stop the execution on procedural grounds, despite challenges by lawyers and a rights group who argued that the procedure would be less humane than putting down a pet. There also were concerns that some of the state's drugs would have expired.

"We have what we need to complete the execution order," Santina told The Associated Press. "The same three drugs. We have some that are not expired."

Dozier's death warrant was signed by Clark County District Court Judge Jennifer Togliatti, who last November blocked the execution over concerns that one drug in the three-drug protocol would immobilize the inmate and mask any signs of pain and suffering. The warrant didn't address her previous concerns.

Batches of the disputed muscle paralytic, cisatracurium, began expiring April 1, but Santina has said the state had supplies that were good until Nov. 30.

The sedative diazepam, the powerful painkiller fentanyl and cisatracurium have never been used for lethal injections in any state. Diazepam is commonly known as Valium. Fentanyl is synthetic opioid that has been blamed for overdose deaths nationwide during an opioid epidemic.

An American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada official called for Gov. Brian Sandoval or prisons chief James Dzurenda to stop the planned execution until questions about the process and drugs are answered.

"The (state) Supreme Court never decided whether Mr. Dozier would experience extreme pain, or if he would suffocate to death, or if this protocol is constitutionally adequate," ACLU legal director Amy Rose said Wednesday. She conceded that her group didn't have legal standing to act on Dozier's behalf unless he asks for it.

Santina said prisons officials "have a court order and it is our duty to carry out that order."

Dozier, 47, has said he wants to die and doesn't really care if he experiences pain. But he did let a team of federal public defenders challenge the drugs and method that Nevada prison officials planned to use.

Those attorneys, David Anthony and Lori Teicher, did not immediately respond to messages.

Sandoval spokeswoman Mary-Sarah Kinner said the Republican governor "does not have the unilateral authority to offer a pardon or commute a death sentence."

State law lets the governor stay an execution up to 60 days after a sentence is handed down. After that, decisions are made by the state pardons board made up of the governor, Supreme Court justices and attorney general.

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Suffer during a legal injection? He's going to be dead. Damn straight he's going to suffer.

(06-20-2018 08:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Suffer during a legal injection? He's going to be dead. Damn straight he's going to suffer.

that's my take on it....at some point you're simply dead.....

I have zero problem with the death penalty......personally, I don't understand why they don't simply put one under first, then issue the KO combo from a humanitarian perspective.....

#haveagooddayintheafterlifebelow

(06-20-2018 08:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 08:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Suffer during a legal injection? He's going to be dead. Damn straight he's going to suffer.

that's my take on it....at some point you're simply dead.....

I have zero problem with the death penalty......personally, I don't understand why they don't simply put one under first, then issue the KO combo from a humanitarian perspective.....

#haveagooddayintheafterlifebelow

I absolutely have a problem with the death penalty. My problem is, we don't use it enough.

When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

She bothered you enough for you to act like a petty loser apparently.

Extreme pain? On fentanyl? Yah OKAY. Good luck arguing that. Valium and fentanyl will knock this guy out before you can say wompwomp.


That being said... I'm against the death penalty I bits entirety.

(06-20-2018 11:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Extreme pain? On fentanyl? Yah OKAY. Good luck arguing that. Valium and fentanyl will knock this guy out before you can say wompwomp.


That being said... I'm against the death penalty In its entirety.

For infants too?

Shooting them doesn’t Cause much pain, the chair is much worse.


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Bring back public hangings.

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

I had a very similar high school experience, only from the opposite standpoint.

I grew up in a very liberal New York suburban town. In an elective government class, our teacher assigned to us controversial topics to be debated, pro and con. At the end of the debate, the class would vote on who won.

I got lucky (so I thought), and was picked from a bunch of willing volunteers to handle the "con" side of the death penalty debate. My opponent, Robert W., was the only one willing to accept the "pro" side of that debate. He was an unpopular kid, and viewed as weird for his vocal support of all sorts of right-wing positions. (The rumor was that he had written a letter to the Utah governor in 1976, volunteering to serve on the Gary Gilmore firing squad. It's probably not true, but he never outright denied it.)

I went into that debate brimming with confidence. There was no way that I could lose.

And I promptly proceeded to get my butt handed to me. Halfway through the debate, the government teacher essentially took over, and started debating Robert W. on my behalf. I was left to just stand there and watch it happen.

At the end, I won by a very close vote of my classmates. But I knew that I had lost -- badly. It also, for the first time, made me stop and think carefully about an issue instead of just going with the accepted position on a spoon-fed basis.

I never thanked Robert W. for that experience. I should have.

My question is this.... When he murdered his victims was he concerned if they felt pain or suffered?

(06-21-2018 06:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

I had a very similar high school experience, only from the opposite standpoint.

I grew up in a very liberal New York suburban town. In an elective government class, our teacher assigned to us controversial topics to be debated, pro and con. At the end of the debate, the class would vote on who won.

I got lucky (so I thought), and was picked from a bunch of willing volunteers to handle the "con" side of the death penalty debate. My opponent, Robert W., was the only one willing to accept the "pro" side of that debate. He was an unpopular kid, and viewed as weird for his vocal support of all sorts of right-wing positions. (The rumor was that he had written a letter to the Utah governor in 1976, volunteering to serve on the Gary Gilmore firing squad. It's probably not true, but he never outright denied it.)

I went into that debate brimming with confidence. There was no way that I could lose.

And I promptly proceeded to get my butt handed to me. Halfway through the debate, the government teacher essentially took over, and started debating Robert W. on my behalf. I was left to just stand there and watch it happen.

At the end, I won by a very close vote of my classmates. But I knew that I had lost -- badly. It also, for the first time, made me stop and think carefully about an issue instead of just going with the accepted position on a spoon-fed basis.

I never thanked Robert W. for that experience. I should have.

That's a great post, man. +3. And FWIW, since I was in high school in the early 90's, right wing opinions that also included lunatic fringe conspiracy theories were no longer a black mark. In fact, for me, it won me a lot of support. That was when William Cooper, Bill Hicks, Alex Jones, C2C AM, and the X-Files started to make their mark; which, of course, I was well reared on.

(06-20-2018 10:53 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

She bothered you enough for you to act like a petty loser apparently.

Oh, aren't you a peach ?

If this is the best you can come up with then I'd say you're well past the point in trying to win hearts and minds and in fact, you not only know you're defeated, but are running a scorched Earth campaign to bring everyone else down to the sewer with you.

(06-21-2018 06:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

I had a very similar high school experience, only from the opposite standpoint.

I grew up in a very liberal New York suburban town. In an elective government class, our teacher assigned to us controversial topics to be debated, pro and con. At the end of the debate, the class would vote on who won.

I got lucky (so I thought), and was picked from a bunch of willing volunteers to handle the "con" side of the death penalty debate. My opponent, Robert W., was the only one willing to accept the "pro" side of that debate. He was an unpopular kid, and viewed as weird for his vocal support of all sorts of right-wing positions. (The rumor was that he had written a letter to the Utah governor in 1976, volunteering to serve on the Gary Gilmore firing squad. It's probably not true, but he never outright denied it.)

I went into that debate brimming with confidence. There was no way that I could lose.

And I promptly proceeded to get my butt handed to me. Halfway through the debate, the government teacher essentially took over, and started debating Robert W. on my behalf. I was left to just stand there and watch it happen.

At the end, I won by a very close vote of my classmates. But I knew that I had lost -- badly. It also, for the first time, made me stop and think carefully about an issue instead of just going with the accepted position on a spoon-fed basis.

I never thanked Robert W. for that experience. I should have.

So it was kinda like when Trump humiliated the old cankled hag in their debates even though she had the questions ahead of time and the biased liberal media claimed she won

(06-20-2018 09:31 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 08:30 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 08:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Suffer during a legal injection? He's going to be dead. Damn straight he's going to suffer.

that's my take on it....at some point you're simply dead.....

I have zero problem with the death penalty......personally, I don't understand why they don't simply put one under first, then issue the KO combo from a humanitarian perspective.....

#haveagooddayintheafterlifebelow

I absolutely have a problem with the death penalty. My problem is, we don't use it enough.

Don’t disagree,

My only problem with it is that we (courts) don’t use it consistently in like cases.

If ******* A is getting the noose, why doesn’t ******* B?

That and it taking 30 years per case.

Just call it a late term abortion and be done with these parasites and enemies to regular folks in 4 hours.

I’ll drive em to the clinic.

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

Today,
You’d be arrested.

Best HS teacher I had was a far left hippy. He and I, to the exclusion of the entire rest of the class, argued near daily.

I think everyone, including my friend Ronnie, all got A’s that report card.

Not a lot else was ever done for an entire school year.

A lot of them would just sit in the back of the room and blaze up a bowl...

Seems times have changed

(06-20-2018 10:53 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

She bothered you enough for you to act like a petty loser apparently.

Damn, really?

It was a high school story.

“Petty loser” seems a bit much.

Maybe a “principled young adult”?

Geèeezzzz.

(06-21-2018 06:41 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

I had a very similar high school experience, only from the opposite standpoint.

I grew up in a very liberal New York suburban town. In an elective government class, our teacher assigned to us controversial topics to be debated, pro and con. At the end of the debate, the class would vote on who won.

I got lucky (so I thought), and was picked from a bunch of willing volunteers to handle the "con" side of the death penalty debate. My opponent, Robert W., was the only one willing to accept the "pro" side of that debate. He was an unpopular kid, and viewed as weird for his vocal support of all sorts of right-wing positions. (The rumor was that he had written a letter to the Utah governor in 1976, volunteering to serve on the Gary Gilmore firing squad. It's probably not true, but he never outright denied it.)

I went into that debate brimming with confidence. There was no way that I could lose.

And I promptly proceeded to get my butt handed to me. Halfway through the debate, the government teacher essentially took over, and started debating Robert W. on my behalf. I was left to just stand there and watch it happen.

At the end, I won by a very close vote of my classmates. But I knew that I had lost -- badly. It also, for the first time, made me stop and think carefully about an issue instead of just going with the accepted position on a spoon-fed basis.

I never thanked Robert W. for that experience. I should have.

Great story.

Otherwise “small” things like this can/have changed lives.

With my past I probably have 6 dozen.

My kids get tired of hearing about it... hopefully some of it has sunk in

(06-21-2018 08:19 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 10:53 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-20-2018 09:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  When I was in high school we were assigned to write a paper on a single issue and make a case for it, pro or con.

I wrote my paper on the death penalty; I said it needs to be expanded to include child molesters, rapists, and in some extreme cases, animal abuse.

Left wing teacher gave me a C. Said she didn't appreciate my "soapbox rant" and that it was "disturbing". Laughed my ass off. Last day of school I make a point to see her and tell her that if it was her intent to crush my spirit that she failed miserably.

She bothered you enough for you to act like a petty loser apparently.

Damn, really?

It was a high school story.

“Petty loser” seems a bit much.

Maybe a “principled young adult”?

Geèeezzzz.

Something I just thought of - that might actually the teacher herself posting under that username, lol!

Seriously though, a petty loser is one that tries to lord a grade over a HS senior (and I needed to pass that class to graduate) and uses leverage to wage a petty personal vendetta.

IMO, Niner is the petty loser if for no other reason that he craves attention so much that he started crap just for the sake of flaming; which is, once again IMO, a violation on these boards.