(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

not me.....we play 200 rpi teams

they play 20 rpi teams....

it's a simple numbers game and why you have to sweep the shiTTTy teams....

it's the basis behind the construct of the formula....

when you only play 50+ games a season, it's tough cookin' when your conference is dogshite at the bottom....

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

(05-20-2018 03:22 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:45 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  My projection is based off if the selections were made today.

But they obviously aren't, so what's the point? I've never understood the point of "if the season ended today" projections...

Then what do you want me to base my projections off of? I don't have a crystal ball that tells me how conference tournaments are going to play out.

(05-20-2018 06:23 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

IMO......out of all the 'weigh' systems, by the end of the year, baseball's RPI does it best....

SEC baseball might be stronger than football from top to bottom year in-year out....

I get why MU sucks....MT and WKU are also in that category to a lesser degree.....those three could dump baseball and nobody would care inside or outside their fan base....

the Tejas schools don't come close to getting a free pass on their ability to suck....

Rice has been the gold standard.....why the others can't keep up is mystifying....

the bottom line is we're a low budget conference with basically zero exposure in a non revenue sport.....

we only care b/c we love our baseball....nobody else really does....

it's no different than the perception of our hoops program relative to the rest.....

regardless, it doesn't change the lack of $$$ or interest.....

(05-20-2018 07:22 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 03:22 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:45 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  My projection is based off if the selections were made today.

But they obviously aren't, so what's the point? I've never understood the point of "if the season ended today" projections...

Then what do you want me to base my projections off of?

Well, with all due respect, we really dont give much of a hoot about your predictions. Thats kinda what hes saying and we are thinking. I mean, youre the man and all. Its nice youve put the time and effort into it. Just mostly wasted time at this point. If you want to make your predictions after the conference tournaments and compare them to the "professionals", then all power to ya. Would be a fun comparison im sure.

(05-20-2018 07:22 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 03:22 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 01:45 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  My projection is based off if the selections were made today.

But they obviously aren't, so what's the point? I've never understood the point of "if the season ended today" projections...

Then what do you want me to base my projections off of? I don't have a crystal ball that tells me how conference tournaments are going to play out.

How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

(05-20-2018 07:43 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  We only care b/c we love our picnics and memories.

That mean ole Donnie Tyndall

post season CUSA awards:

PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Luke Reynolds, Jr., 3B, Southern Miss

PITCHER OF THE YEAR
Nick Sandlin, Jr., RHP, Southern Miss

FRESHMAN OF THE YEAR
Jose Garcia, Fr., C, FIU

NEWCOMER OF THE YEAR
Luke Reynolds, Jr., 3B, Southern Miss

DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
Tyler Frank, Jr., SS, Florida Atlantic

KEITH LeCLAIR COACH OF THE YEAR
Scott Berry, Southern Miss

ASSISTANT COACH OF THE YEAR
Cory Barton, Louisiana Tech


FIRST TEAM ALL-CONFERENCE
IF Tyler Frank, Jr., Florida Atlantic
IF Ford Proctor, Jr., Rice
IF Luke Reynolds, Jr., Southern Miss
IF Eddie Silva, Jr., FIU
OF David Miranda, Sr., Florida Atlantic
OF Jacob Rhinesmith, Jr., WKU
OF Matt Wallner, So., Southern Miss
C Reynaldo Pastrana, Jr., Marshall
DH Hunter Wells, So., Louisiana Tech
UT Austin Dennis, Jr., Middle Tennessee
SP Logan Bailey, Jr., Louisiana Tech
SP Matt Canterino, So., Rice
SP Josh Maciejewski, Sr., Charlotte
SP Jake Miednik, Sr., Florida Atlantic
SP Nick Sandlin, Jr., Southern Miss
RP Jonah Patten, Sr., Charlotte
RP Zach Schneider, Jr., Florida Atlantic


SECOND TEAM ALL-CONFERENCE
IF Aaron Aucker, Sr., Middle Tennessee
IF Steven Kraft, Sr., WKU
IF Jackson Mims, Jr., Charlotte
IF Austin Shenton, So., FIU
OF Parker Bates, So., Louisiana Tech
OF Ryan Chandler, Sr., Rice
OF Reece Hampton, Jr., Charlotte
C Harris Yett, Jr., Charlotte
DH Brett Blackwood, Jr., UAB
UT Logan Allen, Fr., FIU
SP David Leal, Jr., Louisiana Tech
SP Andres Nunez, Jr., FIU
SP Logan Robbins, Jr., Louisiana Tech
SP Jake Wyrick, Sr., Middle Tennessee
RP Ben Morrison, Sr., WKU
RP Drew Peden, Sr., Florida Atlantic


ALL-FRESHMAN TEAM
IF Trei Cruz, Rice
IF Joshua Lamb, UTSA
IF Taylor Young, Louisiana Tech
OF Luke Brown, WKU
OF Gabe Montenegro, Southern Miss
OF Dylan Rock, UTSA
C Jose Garcia, FIU
DH Steele Netterville, Louisiana Tech
UT Logan Allen, FIU
UT Eric Stock, Old Dominion
RHP Dane Acker, Rice

(05-20-2018 06:23 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

They play MOST of those top 50 teams during the weekend with their BEST starting pitchers....we usually play our Top 50 teams mid-week, when our pitching sucks.

I'd say we would have a few more victories vs Top 50 if Sandlin, Powers et al were starting (as they did against MSUcks, which DID sweep the Gators, no matter how you parcel it), not the usual suspects...

It's amazing how many of our folks buy in to SEC propaganda...

(05-23-2018 12:06 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 06:23 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

They play MOST of those top 50 teams during the weekend with their BEST starting pitchers....we usually play our Top 50 teams mid-week, when our pitching sucks.

I'd say we would have a few more victories vs Top 50 if Sandlin, Powers et al were starting (as they did against MSUcks, which DID sweep the Gators, no matter how you parcel it), not the usual suspects...

It's amazing how many of our folks buy in to SEC propaganda...

We could solve that problem by scheduling more top 50 games on the weekend OOC. We'll play State again next year, but you need another good series or two when you factor in our weak conference schedule.

(05-23-2018 01:07 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 12:06 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 06:23 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

They play MOST of those top 50 teams during the weekend with their BEST starting pitchers....we usually play our Top 50 teams mid-week, when our pitching sucks.

I'd say we would have a few more victories vs Top 50 if Sandlin, Powers et al were starting (as they did against MSUcks, which DID sweep the Gators, no matter how you parcel it), not the usual suspects...

It's amazing how many of our folks buy in to SEC propaganda...

We could solve that problem by scheduling more top 50 games on the weekend OOC. We'll play State again next year, but you need another good series or two when you factor in our weak conference schedule.

The Beag is up late tonight! I gotta work night audit tonight because...well...because we ain't got one....glad to have some company.

(05-23-2018 12:06 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 06:23 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

They play MOST of those top 50 teams during the weekend with their BEST starting pitchers....we usually play our Top 50 teams mid-week, when our pitching sucks.

I'd say we would have a few more victories vs Top 50 if Sandlin, Powers et al were starting (as they did against MSUcks, which DID sweep the Gators, no matter how you parcel it), not the usual suspects...

It's amazing how many of our folks buy in to SEC propaganda...

Bingo old friend. I couldn’t have said it any better...

(05-20-2018 09:54 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

Little late responding to this (must have glanced over it), but what the hell does this even mean and how would I go about doing it?

(05-23-2018 04:02 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 09:54 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

Little late responding to this (must have glanced over it), but what the hell does this even mean and how would I go about doing it?

What I think is odd is when State is residing on the bubble and Florida has the number one national seed locked up State miraculously and mysteriously sweeps a series from Florida. And then not even a week later when State has secured their place in the tournament and LSU is on the outside looking in they dispatch State which probably earned them a spot in the tournament. Funny how often things like that seem to happen in the $ec.

(05-23-2018 04:02 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 09:54 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

Little late responding to this (must have glanced over it), but what the hell does this even mean and how would I go about doing it?

Just like this- i predict we get 2 games played in the conference tournament and win them both. Have finish with an rpi in the upper 30s and end up in the arkansas regional as the #2 seed.

Now if you do that with every team you can predict / forecast the entire field.

Youre welcome.

(05-23-2018 04:37 PM)ahma Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 04:02 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 09:54 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

Little late responding to this (must have glanced over it), but what the hell does this even mean and how would I go about doing it?

What I think is odd is when State is residing on the bubble and Florida has the number one national seed locked up State miraculously and mysteriously sweeps a series from Florida. And then not even a week later when State has secured their place in the tournament and LSU is on the outside looking in they dispatch State which probably earned them a spot in the tournament. Funny how often things like that seem to happen in the $ec.

9-1 against the Top 6 should get you in. Don’t care what name is across the uniform.

As far as LSU, who do you want ahead of them?

(05-23-2018 12:06 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 06:23 PM)eaglenjxn Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 04:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Who else here thinks it is odd that Florida just got swept by a team we swept and didn't drop a single point in the rpi, while we are worried about losing one game and dropping 10+ points?

Florida is 24-12 against the Top 50 with series wins over #3, 4, 12, 20, and 25 and 2-0 in the midweek vs. #10. Hell, their non-conference SOS is 16th. That earns you some RPI points to fall back on if you lose a series.

5-4 vs. the Top 50 does not.

They play MOST of those top 50 teams during the weekend with their BEST starting pitchers....we usually play our Top 50 teams mid-week, when our pitching sucks.

I'd say we would have a few more victories vs Top 50 if Sandlin, Powers et al were starting (as they did against MSUcks, which DID sweep the Gators, no matter how you parcel it), not the usual suspects...

It's amazing how many of our folks buy in to SEC propaganda...

-7 of our 11 games against Top 50 competition were on the weekend. We lost 2/3 that Sandlin started and Powers didn’t get through the fifth in his two starts.

-You think we are facing great pitching on the weekday? USA’s pitching is trash and Ole Miss started a freshman in one. That goes both ways.

(05-23-2018 04:02 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 09:54 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

Little late responding to this (must have glanced over it), but what the hell does this even mean and how would I go about doing it?

Bloody hell, are you serious?

(05-23-2018 04:37 PM)ahma Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 04:02 PM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 09:54 PM)TTT Wrote:  How about make a prediction for how we perform in the conference tourney, who we beat and/or lose to, predict our RPI post-tourney, and then project whatever # seed we are. Doing the whole "if the season ended today" projection is a cop out and takes almost zero thought.

Little late responding to this (must have glanced over it), but what the hell does this even mean and how would I go about doing it?

What I think is odd is when State is residing on the bubble and Florida has the number one national seed locked up State miraculously and mysteriously sweeps a series from Florida. And then not even a week later when State has secured their place in the tournament and LSU is on the outside looking in they dispatch State which probably earned them a spot in the tournament. Funny how often things like that seem to happen in the $ec.

It’s definitely a conspiracy. The IHL, SEC, NCAA, ESPN, and CL are all behind it.