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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 05:00 PM)Kronke Wrote: LET'S GOOOOOOOO
I have to ask this question; Which is the most damaging to our country and constitution, the Russians meddling in the presidential election or corruption at the highest levels of our FBI, DOJ, State Dept and DNI?
There is only one obvious answer any American would have to this question.
Rosenstein hastily appoints a Special Counsel to investigate Russian meddling with a broad scope, subpoena power, the power to indict and no budget.
Rosenstein offers to ask the Inspector General to investigate corruption at the highest levels of our government with no broad scope. No power to indict. No power to question anyone not currently employed and no unlimited budget.
Priorities.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (05-21-2018 08:20 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:39 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Sessions should ignore him. The DOJ is a separate, but equal branch. The DOJ is for the people, not for Trump to use for his political gains. That is abuse of power, and it leads us to become one of those dictator state.
Actually, that is completely inaccurate. The DOJ is a department within the executive branch, i.e. under President Trump. They do in fact work for him. They are not separate or equal. They are part of the executive branch and subordinate to the president.
Have any other Presidents ordered the DOJ to investigate the President or political enemies in the past? No. That is why Trump is overstepping his boundaries.
No, the guy before him just sent the IRS after his political enemies...
Of course you have absolutely NO proof of this allegation.
Despite the fact the IRS has already apologized for targeting after conservatives?
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 05:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (05-21-2018 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (05-21-2018 08:20 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:39 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: Actually, that is completely inaccurate. The DOJ is a department within the executive branch, i.e. under President Trump. They do in fact work for him. They are not separate or equal. They are part of the executive branch and subordinate to the president.
Have any other Presidents ordered the DOJ to investigate the President or political enemies in the past? No. That is why Trump is overstepping his boundaries.
No, the guy before him just sent the IRS after his political enemies...
Of course you have absolutely NO proof of this allegation.
Despite the fact the IRS has already apologized for targeting after conservatives?
#Winning
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 05:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (05-21-2018 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (05-21-2018 08:20 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:39 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: Actually, that is completely inaccurate. The DOJ is a department within the executive branch, i.e. under President Trump. They do in fact work for him. They are not separate or equal. They are part of the executive branch and subordinate to the president.
Have any other Presidents ordered the DOJ to investigate the President or political enemies in the past? No. That is why Trump is overstepping his boundaries.
No, the guy before him just sent the IRS after his political enemies...
Of course you have absolutely NO proof of this allegation.
Despite the fact the IRS has already apologized for targeting after conservatives?
OWNED
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 05:00 PM)Kronke Wrote: LET'S GOOOOOOOO
And IIRC, when the IG requests a document, he gets the document, post haste.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 08:22 PM)bullet Wrote: http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/21/obam...lets-find/
Federalist has a good take on it.
“I don’t know if there’s a big conspiracy by the deep state. But it’s pretty obvious to me that leaders of our institutions aren’t above engaging in spying. John Brennan spied on the legislative branch and lied about it to the American people. James Clapper spied on the American people through a domestic surveillance program and lied about it to Congress. Although the Obama administration never tweeted nasty attacks on journalists, it did spy on and prosecute them. It’s completely plausible that those in the upper echelon of law enforcement saw Trump as a threat, then used wobbly evidence as the pretext to investigate his campaign. If not, it’ll be good to clear their names.”
Spying seems to be the best job Hussein did as POTUS.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
Quote:You believe Trump is corrupt. I get it. But surely anyone who alleges to be concerned about the sanctity of our institutions and rule of law would have some cursory curiosity about whether an investigation by the administration of one major party into the presidential campaign of another major party was grounded in direct evidence rather than fabulist rumor-mongering. Otherwise, any administration, including Trump’s, could initiate an investigation for whatever cooked-up superficial reason it wanted.
This is exactly what I've said from the get-go.
But apparently Trump Derangement Syndrome causes some form of brain rot that renders the sufferer unable to conduct logical thought processes and most certainly renders them unable to see the obvious future.
Scary affliction TDS.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 11:42 PM)TechRocks Wrote: Quote:You believe Trump is corrupt. I get it. But surely anyone who alleges to be concerned about the sanctity of our institutions and rule of law would have some cursory curiosity about whether an investigation by the administration of one major party into the presidential campaign of another major party was grounded in direct evidence rather than fabulist rumor-mongering. Otherwise, any administration, including Trump’s, could initiate an investigation for whatever cooked-up superficial reason it wanted.
This is exactly what I've said from the get-go.
But apparently Trump Derangement Syndrome causes some form of brain rot that renders the sufferer unable to conduct logical thought processes and most certainly renders them unable to see the obvious future.
Scary affliction TDS.
I've welcomed it with open arms from the get-go....
if it wasn't for #henceDJT, none of this happens.....
NONE OF IT HAPPENS
TDS is the best thing that could've happened for this country moving forward......
#keeponkeepingbiatches
it's a case study that will be discussed for decades.....
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 08:45 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: (05-21-2018 08:22 PM)bullet Wrote: http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/21/obam...lets-find/
Federalist has a good take on it.
“I don’t know if there’s a big conspiracy by the deep state. But it’s pretty obvious to me that leaders of our institutions aren’t above engaging in spying. John Brennan spied on the legislative branch and lied about it to the American people. James Clapper spied on the American people through a domestic surveillance program and lied about it to Congress. Although the Obama administration never tweeted nasty attacks on journalists, it did spy on and prosecute them. It’s completely plausible that those in the upper echelon of law enforcement saw Trump as a threat, then used wobbly evidence as the pretext to investigate his campaign. If not, it’ll be good to clear their names.”
Spying seems to be the best job Hussein did as POTUS.
I put that in the 2 spot.....
being completely incompetent is my #1 as the dippos lost more seats during his tenure than any that preceded him.....
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/...obama.html
Quote:The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency.
The latter was perhaps the most profound example of Obama's popularity failing to translate to support for his allies.
that by itself is simply stunning.....
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
No wonder these idiot liberals are so deranged. Their Lord & Savior Barack, their Cankled Queen, the lying media, and the DNC stacked the deck against Trump and the inept bunch of fkheads STILL LOST!!!!!!
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-22-2018 07:22 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: No wonder these idiot liberals are so deranged. Their Lord & Savior Barack, their Cankled Queen, the lying media, and the DNC stacked the deck against Trump and the inept bunch of fkheads STILL LOST!!!!!!
Come on. You can do better than this. You have to be the most inept troll on this board.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-20-2018 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:39 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:35 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Sessions should ignore him. The DOJ is a separate, but equal branch. The DOJ is for the people, not for Trump to use for his political gains. That is abuse of power, and it leads us to become one of those dictator state.
Actually, that is completely inaccurate. The DOJ is a department within the executive branch, i.e. under President Trump. They do in fact work for him. They are not separate or equal. They are part of the executive branch and subordinate to the president.
Have any other Presidents ordered the DOJ to investigate the President or political enemies in the past? No. That is why Trump is overstepping his boundaries.
The DOJ is a part of the Executive Branch, which the President runs. Therefore, he can ask them to investigate whatever the F he wants them to investigate.
God, these liberal idiots need to take a simple civics class.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 09:53 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: All I want is for everyone who broke the law to be punished. I don't care whether it's Trump, Hillary, Obama, Lerner, Holder, Lynch, Rice, whoever. We need to get rid of the idea that there is a privileged class who can do no wrong.
Absolutely!
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 03:07 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (05-21-2018 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (05-21-2018 08:20 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:39 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: Actually, that is completely inaccurate. The DOJ is a department within the executive branch, i.e. under President Trump. They do in fact work for him. They are not separate or equal. They are part of the executive branch and subordinate to the president.
Have any other Presidents ordered the DOJ to investigate the President or political enemies in the past? No. That is why Trump is overstepping his boundaries.
No, the guy before him just sent the IRS after his political enemies...
Of course you have absolutely NO proof of this allegation.
https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997...ive-groups
So it just happened to be conservative groups and Tea Party affiliations that were subject to "aggressive scrutiny". Couldn't POSSIBLY have had anything to do with the fact they are right wing.
Coincidence? I think not.
If you believe so, I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.....
Or if you like. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Your comment asserted Obama directed or instigated this. You have no proof of this. None.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 03:20 PM)green Wrote: (05-21-2018 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Of course you have absolutely NO proof of this allegation.
Quote:The IRS admits that its treatment of Plaintiffs during the tax-exempt determinations process, including screening their applications based on their names or policy positions, subjecting those applications to heightened scrutiny and inordinate delays, and demanding of some Plaintiffs’ information that TIGTA determined was unnecessary to the agency’s determination of their tax-exempt status, was wrong. For such treatment, the IRS expresses its sincere apology.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/2...a-era.html
PROOFREAD
The allegation was that Obama did this, not the IRS.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-21-2018 06:47 PM)usmbacker Wrote: (05-21-2018 05:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (05-21-2018 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: (05-21-2018 08:20 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: (05-20-2018 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Have any other Presidents ordered the DOJ to investigate the President or political enemies in the past? No. That is why Trump is overstepping his boundaries.
No, the guy before him just sent the IRS after his political enemies...
Of course you have absolutely NO proof of this allegation.
Despite the fact the IRS has already apologized for targeting after conservatives?
OWNED
IGNORANT.
What part of him claiming Obama directed this, of which no proof exists, do you guys not understand?
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
Here is the problem. We don't know who directed it. If Lerner did it on her own, she needs to be in prison. But if you indict her, she sings. So circle the wagons, name a scapegoat, cover her ass, and let it die. The bureaucrat way.
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RE: Trump Demands DOJ Investigation into Campaign Surveillance
(05-22-2018 08:16 AM)cb4029 Wrote: (05-22-2018 07:22 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: No wonder these idiot liberals are so deranged. Their Lord & Savior Barack, their Cankled Queen, the lying media, and the DNC stacked the deck against Trump and the inept bunch of fkheads STILL LOST!!!!!!
Come on. You can do better than this. You have to be the most inept troll on this board.
Not trolling. I just posted facts, you TDS infected clown.
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