Collusion.



He says this now? They have nothing.

Quote:The top Democrat on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence acknowledged in a recent interview that contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russians could be “a set of coincidences” rather than collusion.

“I’m reserving my final judgement until we’ve seen all the witnesses we need to see, and we’ve gotten all the facts. So I’m going to hold off,” Virginia Sen. Mark Warner said in an interview with The New Yorker’s David Remnick when asked whether he believes that Trump associates conspired with the Kremlin to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Warner and North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, the Republican chair of the Senate panel, have since Jan. 2017 led an investigation into Russian interference in the election.

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The weasel is worried

Watch for the increasing number of DEMS start to roll back their collusion rhetoric and Maxine Waters's impeach hysteria as the evidence will show a nothingburger, jobs continue to increase, NK capitulates and the FBI and Iran Nuke Deal scandals come full circle. They don't want to be the last ones on the hill to die for the cause. Shhhhh. Do you hear that? The sound of rats jumping from a sinking ship is delicious...

Yup. Also--as one would expect if there was nothing to this---those Democrats with the most information are the first to start preparing a path to walk back the Russia Russia Russia narrative.

(05-13-2018 12:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Yup. Also--as one would expect if there was nothing to this---those Democrats with the most information are the first to start preparing a path to walk back the Russia Russia Russia narrative.

Indeed, and in this case, the most imformation means the least amount of evidence that there's a there there.

The wheels will soon come off.

Buckle up

But one thing that is 100% sure bet. Hillary and the DNC colluded with Russia on the Steele Dossier to try and influence the out come of the election. With that CNN did also .

This is something that will be reflected on more clearly in history 10 to 20 years from now. It will be a dark stain...well more like **** on the media and the democrats.

There's a large % of voters looking for a hybrid of both parties to fraction off into one that cares more about the country we call home. Than party first and those that only care about their pet projects...ideal politics. Sometimes a politician needs to suck it up and do whats best for the whole.

Hopefully when this is all done we have a party that leads from the middle.

(05-13-2018 12:26 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Collusion.



He says this now? They have nothing.

Quote:The top Democrat on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence acknowledged in a recent interview that contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russians could be “a set of coincidences” rather than collusion.

“I’m reserving my final judgement until we’ve seen all the witnesses we need to see, and we’ve gotten all the facts. So I’m going to hold off,” Virginia Sen. Mark Warner said in an interview with The New Yorker’s David Remnick when asked whether he believes that Trump associates conspired with the Kremlin to influence the 2016 presidential election.

Warner and North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, the Republican chair of the Senate panel, have since Jan. 2017 led an investigation into Russian interference in the election.

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In other words....This is a big nothingburger.

(05-13-2018 01:15 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  But one thing that is 100% sure bet. Hillary and the DNC colluded with Russia on the Steele Dossier to try and influence the out come of the election. With that CNN did also .

This is something that will be reflected on more clearly in history 10 to 20 years from now. It will be a dark stain...well more like **** on the media and the democrats.

There's a large % of voters looking for a hybrid of both parties to fraction off into one that cares more about the country we call home. Than party first and those that only care about their pet projects...ideal politics. Sometimes a politician needs to suck it up and do whats best for the whole.

Hopefully when this is all done we have a party that leads from the middle.

I don't think there is any way to lead from the middle of these two parties.

Anything new has to have its own foundation in order to stand.

Soooooo, after nearly two years of this nonsense, transparently false accusations, salacious and unverified fake dossiers and around the clock frothing at the mouth idiot “news” talking heads, Frankenlurch and the other useful idiot, unwitting Putin stooges are heading for the tall grass.

“Oh, my bad. It may have all been a big coincidence”...

My God, what an idiot.

I believe that when all the facts are uncovered, and all the guilty parties identified, this sorry episode will go down as one of the greatest political miscalculations and failures of all time.

Not only did Cankles not receive her crown to become America's first female president, the unnecessary attempt by the outgoing administration to throw the election in her favor will result in uncalculable damage to the dim party and many of America's institutions.

I hope the conservatives of both parties (yes, there are a few in the dim side of the isle) will conduct a thorough Congressional investigation and take legislative steps to make sure something similar can never happen again.

When will Warner answer for his Russian collusion?

(05-13-2018 02:29 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

When will Warner answer for his Russian collusion?

We jest but this will be a problem soon. Do you lock up those high in government who have committed crimes? To do so will bring cries of political revenge. To not do so will send the signal that if you advance high enough you will be beyond penalty.
I feel those in high positions who break the law for party power or wealth should be severely punished with the full force of law. However I fear the deep state can disrupt to the point of anarchy and it concerns me that soon they will have to much power to properly oversee. I don’t see how we can control future deep state problems without real hammer wielding congressional oversight.

(05-13-2018 03:00 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 02:29 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

When will Warner answer for his Russian collusion?

We jest but this will be a problem soon. Do you lock up those high in government who have committed crimes? To do so will bring cries of political revenge. To not do so will send the signal that if you advance high enough you will be beyond penalty.
I feel those in high positions who break the law for party power or wealth should be severely punished with the full force of law. However I fear the deep state can disrupt to the point of anarchy and it concerns me that soon they will have to much power to properly oversee. I don’t see how we can control future deep state problems without real hammer wielding congressional oversight.

There's a enhancement in the federal code for people of power who break the trust of other. So lets say someone gets a year and a day (which is 15% lighter of a sentence than just a year) it's possible the enhancement will add more time than the sentence for the crime.

Warner is a douche. Kaine is a douche. Webb was a douche that liked the military. McAuliff has his lips surgically attached to Hlillary's piss bag. Virginia is now Maryland, with a red map broken up with urban blue pockets,

It is an embarrassment personally for me that my once-principled state aligns more with California than it does with Texas.

Yep. That's our guy. We are so proud.

(05-13-2018 03:00 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 02:29 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

When will Warner answer for his Russian collusion?

We jest but this will be a problem soon. Do you lock up those high in government who have committed crimes? To do so will bring cries of political revenge. To not do so will send the signal that if you advance high enough you will be beyond penalty.
I feel those in high positions who break the law for party power or wealth should be severely punished with the full force of law. However I fear the deep state can disrupt to the point of anarchy and it concerns me that soon they will have to much power to properly oversee. I don’t see how we can control future deep state problems without real hammer wielding congressional oversight.

Simply put?

Cut the budgets.

Faaaaaar to many nameless, faceless, unaccountable, unelected, unfireable (sic), teet sucking leeches who’s only current goal is to somehow justify their very existence. Who DO they actually answer to?

Their boss? He/she be doing the same thing.

Someone legitimately tell me we couldn’t cut 25% of each alphabet soup agency up there on ivory row and it would somehow even be noticed, or would negatively impact their lives.

Lobbyists and bureaucrats need not respond.

(05-13-2018 11:21 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Warner is a douche. Kaine is a douche. Webb was a douche that liked the military. McAuliff has his lips surgically attached to Hlillary's piss bag. Virginia is now Maryland, with a red map broken up with urban blue pockets,

It is an embarrassment personally for me that my once-principled state aligns more with California than it does with Texas.

I think you overstate the problem. Neither Sen. Warner nor Sen. Kaine are douches. That word requires intentionality. Neither of them has the backbone for intentional conduct. They instead are both twerps. Basically harmless on their own, but unable to stand up to party leadership.

Former Gov. McAwful is definitely a douche. But recall that he was running against Ken Cuccinelli -- who as Attorney General was willing to abuse the power of his office for political means (e.g., subpeona of UVA for ancient records of long-ago professorMichael Mann). You don't have to be a leftist to have found him unqualified for higher office. As a result, the libertarian candidate (Sarvis) pulled many votes that otherwise would have gone Republican.

This latest statewide election -- a Democrat sweep -- is more concerning. But remember that they all ran against President Trump, before he started gaining traction. Not on this forum, but there are many in the state who do not see "4-dimensional chess" in the chaos of President Trump. We instead see a moronic , foul-mouthed braggart, who just happens to be right on most policy issues.

I think Virginia is still in play for the Republicans. If they were to nominate a serious and known candidate to run against Tim Kaine -- such as Laura Ingraham -- I think she'd win.

lol. Again with the "Could be" stuff. They are really desperate.

Mueller's findings will be based on fact. Everything else from both sides is nothing more than speculation.