(04-06-2018 02:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The ESPN+ dabbling in local rights may result in some sort of locals package, at least for underserved areas.

Buying local rights to a regions pro teams would be a fascinating experiment.

I wonder with ESPN set to take over all the FOX RSN's in the future how that will work

On a side note,

Has anyone checked out the new Bleacher Report Live App that will be competing with ESPN+?

It is very slick.

(04-06-2018 02:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:46 PM)sctvman Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 09:52 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 03:54 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  

(04-05-2018 10:03 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  NBC is clearing room for the UFC. FOX goes after WWE and clears bunch of programming with UFC gone.

Yeah, I've read about that. Thought it was kind of a joke, or not very significant, but, NBC is chomping at the bit for it. UFC was going to sign with NBC, only to go to Fox. That "switcharoo" and the ratings dip...doesn't matter, apparently. UFC is going to keep making good money, and NBC is probably going to be the one giving it to them. While WWE is meeting with Fox; WWE and NBC having this very long relationship.

In a way, NBC is after this different kind of audience. It's more international, and eclectic. Their portfolio reflects it. Sure, there's some familiar things in there, but they chase different things. And quite aggressively, but still spotty on reason?

Like, I get it why they aren't fully in the college scene. With the emphasis on conference sports and this academic year-long commitment to airing all of their stuff just to get a sniff of football and marquee basketball, the winter and spring sports that come with those arrangements put NBC at odds with their holdings. The Olympics, for example, and all of those winter sports, and then golf...where would college hoops fit in?

There's soccer, too.

But, most of the time, when I'm flipping through stations, NBC and its sports stations come off pretty weirdly. A lot of it looks out of place; looks pre-recorded. Like, I'll be looking for hoops early Saturday afternoon, and while ESPN is good for some, and CBS...NBC-SN is pushing out...some skiing. God knows if it's live, I don't.

I can't fault them for not wanting the commitment thing. If NBC is going to have AAC sports, it's going to have to deal with all of its content, even the bad stuff. When you own the rights to air it, what are you supposed to do with it all? Up here in the northeast, with this very diverse population, just so you can have some good football on Saturdays in the Fall, what are you supposed to do in the winter/spring with bad basketball...in an Olympic year, or as soccer seasons ramp up? But even during the heart of football season, is UFC a better primetime piece for broadcast, or do you risk it with a college football game that might be a total wash?

Don't forget that their available room for college hoops and late season football is limited by the NHL contract.

That is why the CAA got bumped off NBCSN. They had like 9 games a year, but they got bumped because they added more NHL content. Previously they had two NHL games a week (Mondays and Tuesdays). Later they added Wednesdays and Sundays. Those hockey games draw better ratings and revenue than the mid-major college basketball games NBCSN had (they also had the MWC).

NBC shows a lot of A-10 games. Most of them do poor ratings. 50,000 is usually a high number. UFC draws well for Fox, but you see what is going on with the sport right now with the Conor McGregor mess, him single-handedly causing 3 fights to be cancelled at UFC 223. There will be a lot of negative reaction for that.

I dont think that will adversely affect UFC long term. I still dont really see how that makes much difference for NBC on Saturday afternoons.

Besides, it seems to me that UFC is what FS-2 has been built around since its inception. I just dont see them dumping UCF. However, if FOX did lose UFC, that might be one thing that would make Fox interested moving more college football to FS-2 and may even make them a possible bidder for the AAC (I dont think they would be considered much of a threat to bid for the AAc as things now stand).

Fox dropping UCF? Or UFC?

(04-06-2018 03:00 PM)solohawks Wrote:  On a side note,

Has anyone checked out the new Bleacher Report Live App that will be competing with ESPN+?

It is very slick.

Stadium already has their + platform and at the same cost ($4.99/month).
Currently, they have the Patriot League, WCC and the MW on there. Some of the games showing on Stadium's digital platform are on Stadium Plus. Look for the MW to work with Stadium for the 2nd/3rd tier games in the next contract.

(04-06-2018 02:43 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:22 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 12:56 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Yeah, when it was in Sydney, iirc, it hit in the late summer, early fall? Like, toward the front end of the college football season. It wasn't nearly the multi-channel commitment it is now.

I think it's worse when the event is much further away from the US, actually. You have a live feed across some channels, and then replays across the others. NBC turns into a recap of the day, or, like with the recent South Korean Olympics, it's live-streaming an event during Prime Time. Brutal.

Australia was held in like November each time.

Not quite that late--but your right--I thought it was late summer like Rio. Sydney was Sept 15th -Oct 1rst. Rio was August 5th - Aug 21rst. Honestly, since we arent heading south of the equator until 2028---I doubt the next agreement the AAC signs will be long enough to be affected. I guess it could be---but I suspect a shorter 6 year deal like these same schools always seemed to do in CUSA is more likely.

Consider the 2000 games in the current cfb landscape, though. That's the heart of the non-conference.

I get the impression the Olympics make it hard for NBC to really compete for conference contracts because of the long-term commitment, which may run in conflict with Olympic programming, and taking on a conference as an exclusive provider, since the network has other priorities. That puts them in this odd position of offering pieces to conferences, but having to do so overpaying for what it gets...which it doesn't want.

I could see them going in on lacrosse, but ESPN and Fox have that one cornered given the current D1 lax landscape.

http://gosycamores.com/news/2018/4/9/bas...-espn.aspx

I didn't see this posted anywhere and didnt want to start another ESPN+ thread.

Looks like the MVC had made their ESPN+ plans official. A lot of + exclusives but also some ESPN3 exclusives

(04-06-2018 03:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:46 PM)sctvman Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 09:52 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 03:54 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Yeah, I've read about that. Thought it was kind of a joke, or not very significant, but, NBC is chomping at the bit for it. UFC was going to sign with NBC, only to go to Fox. That "switcharoo" and the ratings dip...doesn't matter, apparently. UFC is going to keep making good money, and NBC is probably going to be the one giving it to them. While WWE is meeting with Fox; WWE and NBC having this very long relationship.

In a way, NBC is after this different kind of audience. It's more international, and eclectic. Their portfolio reflects it. Sure, there's some familiar things in there, but they chase different things. And quite aggressively, but still spotty on reason?

Like, I get it why they aren't fully in the college scene. With the emphasis on conference sports and this academic year-long commitment to airing all of their stuff just to get a sniff of football and marquee basketball, the winter and spring sports that come with those arrangements put NBC at odds with their holdings. The Olympics, for example, and all of those winter sports, and then golf...where would college hoops fit in?

There's soccer, too.

But, most of the time, when I'm flipping through stations, NBC and its sports stations come off pretty weirdly. A lot of it looks out of place; looks pre-recorded. Like, I'll be looking for hoops early Saturday afternoon, and while ESPN is good for some, and CBS...NBC-SN is pushing out...some skiing. God knows if it's live, I don't.

I can't fault them for not wanting the commitment thing. If NBC is going to have AAC sports, it's going to have to deal with all of its content, even the bad stuff. When you own the rights to air it, what are you supposed to do with it all? Up here in the northeast, with this very diverse population, just so you can have some good football on Saturdays in the Fall, what are you supposed to do in the winter/spring with bad basketball...in an Olympic year, or as soccer seasons ramp up? But even during the heart of football season, is UFC a better primetime piece for broadcast, or do you risk it with a college football game that might be a total wash?

Don't forget that their available room for college hoops and late season football is limited by the NHL contract.

That is why the CAA got bumped off NBCSN. They had like 9 games a year, but they got bumped because they added more NHL content. Previously they had two NHL games a week (Mondays and Tuesdays). Later they added Wednesdays and Sundays. Those hockey games draw better ratings and revenue than the mid-major college basketball games NBCSN had (they also had the MWC).

NBC shows a lot of A-10 games. Most of them do poor ratings. 50,000 is usually a high number. UFC draws well for Fox, but you see what is going on with the sport right now with the Conor McGregor mess, him single-handedly causing 3 fights to be cancelled at UFC 223. There will be a lot of negative reaction for that.

I dont think that will adversely affect UFC long term. I still dont really see how that makes much difference for NBC on Saturday afternoons.

Besides, it seems to me that UFC is what FS-2 has been built around since its inception. I just dont see them dumping UCF. However, if FOX did lose UFC, that might be one thing that would make Fox interested moving more college football to FS-2 and may even make them a possible bidder for the AAC (I dont think they would be considered much of a threat to bid for the AAc as things now stand).

Fox dropping UCF? Or UFC?

Or dropping UFC for UCF.

(04-10-2018 09:01 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 03:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 02:46 PM)sctvman Wrote:  

(04-06-2018 09:52 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Don't forget that their available room for college hoops and late season football is limited by the NHL contract.

That is why the CAA got bumped off NBCSN. They had like 9 games a year, but they got bumped because they added more NHL content. Previously they had two NHL games a week (Mondays and Tuesdays). Later they added Wednesdays and Sundays. Those hockey games draw better ratings and revenue than the mid-major college basketball games NBCSN had (they also had the MWC).

NBC shows a lot of A-10 games. Most of them do poor ratings. 50,000 is usually a high number. UFC draws well for Fox, but you see what is going on with the sport right now with the Conor McGregor mess, him single-handedly causing 3 fights to be cancelled at UFC 223. There will be a lot of negative reaction for that.

I dont think that will adversely affect UFC long term. I still dont really see how that makes much difference for NBC on Saturday afternoons.

Besides, it seems to me that UFC is what FS-2 has been built around since its inception. I just dont see them dumping UCF. However, if FOX did lose UFC, that might be one thing that would make Fox interested moving more college football to FS-2 and may even make them a possible bidder for the AAC (I dont think they would be considered much of a threat to bid for the AAc as things now stand).

Fox dropping UCF? Or UFC?

Or dropping UFC for UCF.

lol....possibly? But since the AAC would be sliding into Saturday UFC slots on FS-2----is that even something they would want? I mean---is FS-2 better than CBS-Sports?

(04-10-2018 08:45 PM)solohawks Wrote:  http://gosycamores.com/news/2018/4/9/bas...-espn.aspx

I didn't see this posted anywhere and didnt want to start another ESPN+ thread.

Looks like the MVC had made their ESPN+ plans official. A lot of + exclusives but also some ESPN3 exclusives

ESPN has worked to get content lined up for the + launch.

That's tomorrow, right? I'm looking forward to seeing this new "redesigned" ESPN App - and to finding out how much of the content I used to get for "free" on WATCH/3 as an ESPN cable subscriber that I will now have to pay $5 a month extra for.

https://espnmediazone.com/us/press-relea...amex_espn/

For those with an American Express card, you can get a 30 day free trial of ESPN+ for the first week of the service.

I would recommend taking advantage of it and cancel at the end of the 30 days. Then you will likely be in the loop for "please do not go" or "please come back" emails that offer you an additional free subscriptions

Here is where you sign in:

https://plus.espn.com

And the list of events:

http://www.espn.com/watch/collections/5609/upcoming

If you like mid-major college softball/baseball, especially the SoCon and MVC, this is the app for you. Also, there is a lot of soccer and golf.

(04-11-2018 08:46 AM)solohawks Wrote:  https://espnmediazone.com/us/press-relea...amex_espn/

For those with an American Express card, you can get a 30 day free trial of ESPN+ for the first week of the service.

You don't need an AMEX Card to get the 30-day free trial. The free trial is sponsored by AMEX but it is open to everyone to sign up.

(04-12-2018 09:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:46 AM)solohawks Wrote:  https://espnmediazone.com/us/press-relea...amex_espn/

For those with an American Express card, you can get a 30 day free trial of ESPN+ for the first week of the service.

You don't need an AMEX Card to get the 30-day free trial. The free trial is sponsored by AMEX but it is open to everyone to sign up.

thanks for catching that!