(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

(01-30-2018 11:07 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 01:54 AM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 08:34 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 03:05 AM)shockwave Wrote:  BYU, Army, Boise State and Air Force are the only financially beneficial nationall football brand names with a national fan base not in the P5. Add Gonzaga and St. Mary's to offset any football only adds. Add all six and you are instant P5, perception wise.

For other sports it wouldn't be good to be a coast to coast league. If you're wanting to expand hoops you stay in the existing region. If a BYU/Boise football addition was wanted by the networks, I'm sure we would listen. Going beyond 14 though would get crazy.

San Diego State and Sacramento State are members of the AAC in rowing and there are other non revenue and Olympic sports teams in "nationwide" conferences.

Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

You are entitled to your opinion.

(01-29-2018 07:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Navy had 3 broadcasts over a million viewers in 2017. Actually all three of those were over 2million.
For that matter, USF and UCF had three over a million, too. And UCF's were all over 3 million.

Oops! Forgot bowl games.

Sniff, sniff.

Broadcasts with more than 1M viewers (2017)
Navy = 3
UCF = 3
USF = 3
Memphis = 3
BYU = 3
Temple = 2
Houston = 2
Cincinnati = 1
SMU = 1

(01-30-2018 02:52 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:07 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

(01-30-2018 03:55 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 02:52 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:07 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

I would really like BSU and Air Force to join as FB only (if we can't get Army and BYU) with Gonzaga and St Mary's to offset in bball. That's P6 for sure.

(01-30-2018 04:42 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 03:55 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 02:52 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:07 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

I would really like BSU and Air Force to join as FB only (if we can't get Army and BYU) with Gonzaga and St Mary's to offset in bball. That's P6 for sure.

I don't see BSU splitting up it's sports with basketball doing well the past few years. Unless it was a big 12 invite.

(01-30-2018 05:13 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 04:42 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 03:55 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 02:52 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:07 AM)Chappy Wrote:  The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

I would really like BSU and Air Force to join as FB only (if we can't get Army and BYU) with Gonzaga and St Mary's to offset in bball. That's P6 for sure.

I don't see BSU splitting up it's sports with basketball doing well the past few years. Unless it was a big 12 invite.

Hey, EDLUVAR, when I saw you in the "users browsing" list, I intended to bump the "bowl game ratings" thread but it was closed by moderator.

I drilled down a little into the wikipedia article on Fiesta Bowl. If you click the link for the citation for the $24million number in that wikipedia article on the 2014 Fiesta...it is an article on the 2013 UCF-Baylor Fiesta.

The Idaho Statesman article clearly says payout for the CFP Fiesta following the 2014 season was $4million for each team and $2million+ for expenses. Boise got the $2million+ and half the $4million and 1/12 the other half of the $4million.

(01-30-2018 05:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 05:13 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 04:42 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 03:55 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 02:52 PM)shockwave Wrote:  American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

I would really like BSU and Air Force to join as FB only (if we can't get Army and BYU) with Gonzaga and St Mary's to offset in bball. That's P6 for sure.

I don't see BSU splitting up it's sports with basketball doing well the past few years. Unless it was a big 12 invite.

Hey, EDLUVAR, when I saw you in the "users browsing" list, I intended to bump the "bowl game ratings" thread but it was closed by moderator.

I drilled down a little into the wikipedia article on Fiesta Bowl. If you click the link for the citation for the $24million number in that wikipedia article on the 2014 Fiesta...it is an article on the 2013 UCF-Baylor Fiesta.

The Idaho Statesman article clearly says payout for the CFP Fiesta following the 2014 season was $4million for each team and $2million+ for expenses. Boise got the $2million+ and half the $4million and 1/12 the other half of the $4million.

Yeah I looked into that and you are right. BSU split the 24 for the first 2 fiesta bowls and the third was less with the CFP being created.

(01-30-2018 05:19 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 05:16 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 05:13 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 04:42 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 03:55 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

I would really like BSU and Air Force to join as FB only (if we can't get Army and BYU) with Gonzaga and St Mary's to offset in bball. That's P6 for sure.

I don't see BSU splitting up it's sports with basketball doing well the past few years. Unless it was a big 12 invite.

Hey, EDLUVAR, when I saw you in the "users browsing" list, I intended to bump the "bowl game ratings" thread but it was closed by moderator.

I drilled down a little into the wikipedia article on Fiesta Bowl. If you click the link for the citation for the $24million number in that wikipedia article on the 2014 Fiesta...it is an article on the 2013 UCF-Baylor Fiesta.

The Idaho Statesman article clearly says payout for the CFP Fiesta following the 2014 season was $4million for each team and $2million+ for expenses. Boise got the $2million+ and half the $4million and 1/12 the other half of the $4million.

Yeah I looked into that and you are right. BSU split the 24 for the first 2 fiesta bowls and the third was less with the CFP being created.

Definitely some nice cheddar for '06-'07 and '09-10, though. More than all the CFP group-of-five-conferences-without-access-bowl-contract NY6 participants together.

(01-30-2018 03:28 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 07:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Navy had 3 broadcasts over a million viewers in 2017. Actually all three of those were over 2million.
For that matter, USF and UCF had three over a million, too. And UCF's were all over 3 million.

Oops! Forgot bowl games.

Sniff, sniff.

Broadcasts with more than 1M viewers (2017)
Navy = 3
UCF = 3
USF = 3
Memphis = 3
BYU = 3
Temple = 2
Houston = 2
Cincinnati = 1
SMU = 1

LOL!! Why set the bar for just 1 Million?

Why not say 3 Million be your bar??

Here are the TV ratings for games that BYU's TV contract controlled (home games)

vs Portland State on ESPN (during Week 0 special premier): 939,000
vs Utah: 668,000 on ESPN2
vs Wisconsin: 2,270,000 on ABC
vs Boise St: 1,043,000 on ESPN
vs San Jose State: No ratings, game was on BYUTV and ESPN3
vs Hawaii: No ratings...game was on BYUTV and ESPN3

BYU only had 2 tv contract games with more than 1 Million viewers...and ZERO contracted games with anything over 2.3 Million (hence why BYU fan used low bar for measurement).

If measurement was 3 Million...for just one other team, it would have been:
BYU: 0
UCF: 3

Something tells me ESPN made a heck of a lot more TV AD $$$ off just UCF games this year vs any BYU game they controlled....as UCF's last 3 games of the season drew almost 16.5 Million viewers (16,462,000 viewers to be exact).

(01-30-2018 05:29 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 03:28 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 07:53 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Navy had 3 broadcasts over a million viewers in 2017. Actually all three of those were over 2million.
For that matter, USF and UCF had three over a million, too. And UCF's were all over 3 million.

Oops! Forgot bowl games.

Sniff, sniff.

Broadcasts with more than 1M viewers (2017)
Navy = 3
UCF = 3
USF = 3
Memphis = 3
BYU = 3
Temple = 2
Houston = 2
Cincinnati = 1
SMU = 1

LOL!! Why set the bar for just 1 Million?

Why not say 3 Million be your bar??

Here are the TV ratings for games that BYU's TV contract controlled (home games)

vs Portland State on ESPN (during Week 0 special premier): 939,000
vs Utah: 668,000 on ESPN2
vs Wisconsin: 2,270,000 on ABC
vs Boise St: 1,043,000 on ESPN
vs San Jose State: No ratings, game was on BYUTV and ESPN3
vs Hawaii: No ratings...game was on BYUTV and ESPN3

BYU only had 2 tv contract games with more than 1 Million viewers...and ZERO contracted games with anything over 2.3 Million (hence why BYU fan used low bar for measurement).

If measurement was 3 Million...for just one other team, it would have been:
BYU: 0
UCF: 3

Something tells me ESPN made a heck of a lot more TV AD $$$ off just UCF games this year vs any BYU game they controlled....as UCF's last 3 games of the season drew almost 16.5 Million viewers (16,462,000 viewers to be exact).

Fuzzy math used is what happened. I'd still welcome byu in the AAC though. We would add the their viewership.

(01-30-2018 01:50 AM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 09:54 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 03:05 AM)shockwave Wrote:  BYU, Army, Boise State and Air Force are the only financially beneficial nationall football brand names with a national fan base not in the P5. Add Gonzaga and St. Mary's to offset any football only adds. Add all six and you are instant P5, perception wise.

Wow. This is your very first post?^

...and?

And you got banned

(01-30-2018 07:30 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 01:50 AM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 09:54 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 03:05 AM)shockwave Wrote:  BYU, Army, Boise State and Air Force are the only financially beneficial nationall football brand names with a national fan base not in the P5. Add Gonzaga and St. Mary's to offset any football only adds. Add all six and you are instant P5, perception wise.

Wow. This is your very first post?^

...and?

And you got banned

That has to be quickest banned I've seen

(01-30-2018 03:55 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 02:52 PM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 11:07 AM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 10:05 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  Ah no. There are no east to west coast Olympic sports. Unless it is a meet sport i.e. track, cross country, etc travel is expensive for a non revenue sports.

The WAC comes closest, probably. Chicago to Seattle to Rio Grande in Edinburg, TX...

American also. Cali to texas to florida to Connecticut.

Yeah, that too... I thought he meant non-football conferences though.

The only sport the American takes to Cali is rowing, a meet sport. Flying 30+ people around for baseball, softball, soccer, volleyball, wrestling, etc will get expensive. Notice most non-football conferences tend to have very tight footprints.

(01-30-2018 10:51 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 07:30 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 01:50 AM)shockwave Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 09:54 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 03:05 AM)shockwave Wrote:  BYU, Army, Boise State and Air Force are the only financially beneficial nationall football brand names with a national fan base not in the P5. Add Gonzaga and St. Mary's to offset any football only adds. Add all six and you are instant P5, perception wise.

Wow. This is your very first post?^

...and?

And you got banned

That has to be quickest banned I've seen

I could be off, I feel it was a fanhood multiple account

Nope

CUSA has a new TV deal. No info on $ in the announcement though.

http://www.conferenceusa.com/news/2018/3..._2018.aspx

(03-14-2018 03:37 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  CUSA has a new TV deal. No info on $ in the announcement though.

http://www.conferenceusa.com/news/2018/3..._2018.aspx

Wren Baker, North Texas' AD, tweeted this represents more significantly more revenue and broader distribution for the conference.