EverRespect
Free Kaplony
Posts: 31,330
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 1156
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 10:38 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:35 PM)DaBigBlue Wrote: To think a team that started the season 0-14, gets in over a 25-7 ODU.
I understand the exitement a tourney creates but it makes the regular season meaningless for a lot of teams. Anything can happen over the course of a couple games; why is that rewarded over 5 months of play? This is the one thing I like about soccer....but i do understand tourneys make dollars.
Because we are sending our best team right now. MTSU, ODU, and WKU peaked too early.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
|
|
03-10-2018 10:40 PM |
|
ODUMONARCHZ1
Heisman
Posts: 9,904
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 109
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
|
RE: NIT?
That Wku loss closed the door imo, unless by some miracle mt gets an at large but don't see it happening
Sent from my SM-N950U using CSNbbs mobile app
|
|
03-10-2018 10:41 PM |
|
Gilesfan
Hall of Famer
Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
The best team in CUSA is MTSU by a long shot.
|
|
03-10-2018 10:42 PM |
|
EverRespect
Free Kaplony
Posts: 31,330
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 1156
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
NIT?
Disagree, they lost their last 2 games.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
|
|
03-10-2018 10:45 PM |
|
Gilesfan
Hall of Famer
Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 10:45 PM)EverRespect Wrote: Disagree, they lost their last 2 games.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
And somehow that is a better indicator than the last 5 months?
Tourneys are a crapshoot.
(This post was last modified: 03-10-2018 10:50 PM by Gilesfan.)
|
|
03-10-2018 10:49 PM |
|
757ODU
All American
Posts: 4,260
Joined: Apr 2015
Reputation: 102
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
You find out who the weak coaches are in a tournament. You definitely find out in championship games.
|
|
03-10-2018 10:55 PM |
|
MonarchManiac
Heisman
Posts: 5,604
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 211
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location: Norfolk, VA
|
|
03-10-2018 10:57 PM |
|
Prideofalion
1st String
Posts: 1,409
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 60
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
|
|
03-10-2018 10:57 PM |
|
Gilesfan
Hall of Famer
Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
|
|
03-10-2018 10:58 PM |
|
monarx
Hall of Famer
Posts: 14,517
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 278
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
We are toast. Worst case for us
(This post was last modified: 03-10-2018 11:02 PM by monarx.)
|
|
03-10-2018 10:59 PM |
|
757ODU
All American
Posts: 4,260
Joined: Apr 2015
Reputation: 102
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:03 PM |
|
TheDancinMonarch
All American
Posts: 4,639
Joined: Jun 2009
Reputation: 157
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location: Norfolk, VA
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
Yes because he keeps his players loose and capable of doing so as opposed to another whose team is so tight it can't perform.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:04 PM |
|
Gilesfan
Hall of Famer
Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 11:03 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
Marshall was about the 100 best team in America, lost to us twice, but their coach is better because they won a 3 day tourney? The logic just doesnt fly. People love to judge on small samples.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:06 PM |
|
Mr.BigBlue
All American
Posts: 4,833
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 37
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
Everyone of us knew we were not an NCAA team pretty much at the Strat of the season. We had no depth at the 4/5 positions. Yes Kah and McClinton injuries hurt. We lacked scoring on even a remotely consistent basis. We had games where we shot free throws well but too many where we didn't. We had a very remote chance at NIT but when you can't beat any good teams it really leaves a bad impression on the selection committees. Same old ODU story...a good defensive team that lacked scoring. With the talent we had, this staff got about as much out of them as possible. JJ is a good coach, but does not motivate in away that builds confidence. I just hope he realizes it is his time to retire.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:07 PM |
|
Mr.BigBlue
All American
Posts: 4,833
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 37
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 11:06 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 11:03 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
Marshall was about the 100 best team in America, lost to us twice, but their coach is better because they won a 3 day tourney? The logic just doesnt fly. People love to judge on small samples.
He got them to play and execute when it counted. That is what coaches are suppose to do as well as the Xs and Os.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:09 PM |
|
Gilesfan
Hall of Famer
Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 11:09 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: (03-10-2018 11:06 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 11:03 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
Marshall was about the 100 best team in America, lost to us twice, but their coach is better because they won a 3 day tourney? The logic just doesnt fly. People love to judge on small samples.
He got them to play and execute when it counted. That is what coaches are suppose to do as well as the Xs and Os.
I do think they had a good defensive gampelan. They followed what MTSU did to them (and us). But Elmore heaving 30 footers isnt good offense just because he makes them. Sometimes **** just happens. Its not like he had some Great X and Os game that unlocked a puzzle.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:11 PM |
|
757ODU
All American
Posts: 4,260
Joined: Apr 2015
Reputation: 102
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 11:06 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 11:03 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
Marshall was about the 100 best team in America, lost to us twice, but their coach is better because they won a 3 day tourney? The logic just doesnt fly. People love to judge on small samples.
The logic doesn’t fly? They’re in the NCAA Tournament buddy. Get your team ready at the right time. Jones doesn’t do that. They advanced further than us. “People love to judge on small samples.” LOLOLOLOL...we are done playing for anything meaningful, and they are still playing. Wow, you really don’t get it.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:12 PM |
|
Mr.BigBlue
All American
Posts: 4,833
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 37
I Root For: Old Dominion
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 11:03 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
Elmore made 5 - 30 footers because he had the confidence, skills, and the coaching green light to shoot the ball when he has an opening. That is what coaches are suppose to do...understand the talent and let the players execute.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:14 PM |
|
Prideofalion
1st String
Posts: 1,409
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 60
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
Or maybe Elmore just has enough stones to manup and be the best player on the floor.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:15 PM |
|
Gilesfan
Hall of Famer
Posts: 17,533
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 106
I Root For: ODU
Location:
|
RE: NIT?
(03-10-2018 11:12 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 11:06 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 11:03 PM)757ODU Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: (03-10-2018 10:57 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: Dantoni is a genius because John Elmore made at least 5 thirty footers in the second half... ok. Gotcha
And Kermit is less of a coach than whoever the Southern Miss guy is.
Yea exactly. Really intelligent comment. Dantoni isn’t a great coach, he’s just better than Jones. He figured out that they needed to play more defense this year, and they did. They jumped 100 spots defensively.. We jumped a ton offensively until we played good teams.
Marshall was about the 100 best team in America, lost to us twice, but their coach is better because they won a 3 day tourney? The logic just doesnt fly. People love to judge on small samples.
The logic doesn’t fly? They’re in the NCAA Tournament buddy. Get your team ready at the right time. Jones doesn’t do that. They advanced further than us. “People love to judge on small samples.” LOLOLOLOL...we are done playing for anything meaningful, and they are still playing. Wow, you really don’t get it.
Ah, Dantoni held them back all year until he unleashed them this week. Hes smarter than all of us.
|
|
03-10-2018 11:15 PM |
|