(03-10-2018 09:50 AM)ghostofclt Wrote:  clt is going to his safe space to process this.

why is everyone so offended by everything these days??

This is a bed time story and needs to be put to rest. Time to move onto a more serious issue Washington Post.

It is stupid, bit I hope this may be lingering over WKU during our game.

I'm more disappointed in the reporter as well. At first I thought it was just the liberals pushing it and giving her the benefit of the doubt. Then I saw her Tweet saying something along the lines of "On National Womens Day nonethless." Or something along those lines.

He didn't do anything wrong. Goodness gracious.

(03-10-2018 08:42 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 08:26 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Problem for Stans in this instance probably isn't just the use of the word as much as it is the context he used it. It was clear he thought it was a dumb question and was irritated by it as if the female reporter didn't know anything about basketball. So, the use of the word - by itself - probably wouldn't have merited this type of attention. Doing it in such a condescending way? I'll just say good luck to him with that.

If you think that was condescending you haven’t watched too many Stans interviews. He’s made me cringe more than once messing with the local reporters when they ask him some innocuous question. Of course he knows all of these guys and it’s like a bunch of men busting chops amongst themselves.

I’ll let you white knights fuel this one. I’m more worried about limiting the King of Flop tonight. I guess this could turn into a big story with what passes for news/controversy these days.

I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first time I’ve ever heard him drop ‘honey’ on a female interviewer this year. I can’t source another time but my gut says I’ve heard it before.

You know how it is with the millennial gens. Everybody is offended by everything now.

(03-10-2018 10:44 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 08:42 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 08:26 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Problem for Stans in this instance probably isn't just the use of the word as much as it is the context he used it. It was clear he thought it was a dumb question and was irritated by it as if the female reporter didn't know anything about basketball. So, the use of the word - by itself - probably wouldn't have merited this type of attention. Doing it in such a condescending way? I'll just say good luck to him with that.

If you think that was condescending you haven’t watched too many Stans interviews. He’s made me cringe more than once messing with the local reporters when they ask him some innocuous question. Of course he knows all of these guys and it’s like a bunch of men busting chops amongst themselves.

I’ll let you white knights fuel this one. I’m more worried about limiting the King of Flop tonight. I guess this could turn into a big story with what passes for news/controversy these days.

I’m pretty sure this isn’t the first time I’ve ever heard him drop ‘honey’ on a female interviewer this year. I can’t source another time but my gut says I’ve heard it before.

You know how it is with the millennial gens. Everybody is offended by everything now.

I think it's mainly context. No one under the age of 35 has probably EVER called someone honey. But someone 50 and above may not even bat an eye at doing it. So you can understand the vast difference in reaction.

This story is pretty ridiculous to have gotten picked up by the WaPo. Sometimes you have to look at intent, and his use was innocent even if outdated. And like Beed said, this is basically his canned response for any question like this.

Hopefully this blows over, like it should. And if he needs to issue an apology then get on with it so we can get on with the championship.

I'm really getting tired of these, well timed, coattail a cause, you've damaged me, accusations. What it's really doing is damaging the support for those who have gone thru hell due to real life alternating instances, most of which have never, or will never be made public. I've been called Honey, Sugar, Baby, Darlin, Sugar Britches, and never once did I think it was anything other than someone being nice, or in the case of the waitress at the Waffle House, trying to ensure she received a better tip to help support her family. I will be so glad when the Pussification of America takes a chill pill.

I'm 27 and Its not something I generally say however I'll go to a restaurant, bar, gas station, church, even regular stores and I've been called, hun, honey, baby, sweetie, and it doesn't bother me. I've gotten it from girls much older than me and some my age and slightly younger. That's ridiculous nonsense. If you grew up in the south that doesn't bother you

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Everyone is lighting her up on twitter as they should be. What life does she live that she's never been called that before?

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I'm sorry, but calling any woman you aren't on familiar terms with "honey" isn't okay, in a professional setting like this it's worse.

Is it a big deal? No. Worthy of national attention? No. With that said, most women I know do not appreciate being called "honey", "sweetie:, "darling" et al by men who are not their father or significant other.

Is it a double standard that many women, especially in the south, especially in the service industry, use it when talking to men? Sure I guess.

With all that said, here's a crazy idea, even if you view it as innocuous, when someone tells you they don't appreciate something, try listening to them.

What exactly are you being deprived of by not being able to call young women honey, especially in a professional setting?

What PiKapp said. LMAO at a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. I mean every damn sideline reporter now is female these days, because networks have decided hotness level is the top qualification. So, I mean it's not like this is a new phenomenon. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

(03-10-2018 11:38 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I'm sorry, but calling any woman you aren't on familiar terms with "honey" isn't okay, in a professional setting like this it's worse.

Is it a big deal? No. Worthy of national attention? No. With that said, most women I know do not appreciate being called "honey", "sweetie:, "darling" et al by men who are not their father or significant other.

Is it a double standard that many women, especially in the south, especially in the service industry, use it when talking to men? Sure I guess.

With all that said, here's a crazy idea, even if you view it as innocuous, when someone tells you they don't appreciate something, try listening to them.

What exactly are you being deprived of by not being able to call young women honey, especially in a professional setting?

What happened to sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me?

People need to grow up and quit being offended by every little thing.

(03-10-2018 11:47 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What PiKapp said. LMAO as a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

This girl is an idiot. Did you listen to the broadcast during the game. She doesn't know basketball at all. All she talked about was how she was a cheerleader at uab. It's clear she doesn't know anything and is on tv cause she is a pretty face but nothing up top.

(03-10-2018 11:51 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:47 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What PiKapp said. LMAO as a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

This girl is an idiot. Did you listen to the broadcast during the game. She doesn't know basketball at all. All she talked about was how she was a cheerleader at uab. It's clear she doesn't know anything and is on tv cause she is a pretty face but nothing up top.

Two things. Notice the edit I was making above when you were typing this.

Second, like I say there this isn't new (the sideline reporter) whether she knows basketball or not. It's part of the job. It's the coaches responsibility to remain professional no matter how dumb the questions are.

(03-10-2018 11:47 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What PiKapp said. LMAO at a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. I mean every damn sideline reporter now is female these days, because networks have decided hotness level is the top qualification. So, I mean it's not like this is a new phenomenon. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

Would you be so quick to pass judgement if your coach Kermit Davis had been the one who called a reporter "Honey"?

(03-10-2018 11:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:51 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:47 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What PiKapp said. LMAO as a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

This girl is an idiot. Did you listen to the broadcast during the game. She doesn't know basketball at all. All she talked about was how she was a cheerleader at uab. It's clear she doesn't know anything and is on tv cause she is a pretty face but nothing up top.

Two things. Notice the edit I was making above when you were typing this.

Second, like I say there this isn't new (the sideline reporter) whether she knows basketball or not. It's part of the job. It's the coaches responsibility to remain professional no matter how dumb the questions are.

Yep, same line of thought. It's not the smartest thing to say now a days, but he calls young male reporters son all the time. It's the same sort of thing. If a reporter ask stupid questions they are going to get smart Alex remarks.

Dumb auto correct

(03-10-2018 11:58 AM)Herd-in-ATL Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:47 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What PiKapp said. LMAO at a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. I mean every damn sideline reporter now is female these days, because networks have decided hotness level is the top qualification. So, I mean it's not like this is a new phenomenon. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

Would you be so quick to pass judgement if your coach Kermit Davis had been the one who called a reporter "Honey"?

Kermit is way too media savvy to do that in public. So, if he did something like that, I wouldn't know what to say because it would be so out of character for him. If there is any reason why I'm surprised someone hasn't thrown $3 to $4 million at him aside from his coaching it's his ability to handle the public responsibilities including the media and the community/fan base (which at a P5 is probably just as important as coaching ability).

(03-10-2018 12:01 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:54 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:51 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(03-10-2018 11:47 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What PiKapp said. LMAO as a number of men on this forum talking about how they've been called honey or hun before. Y'all really think that's the same?

When directed at a woman, it can be both a term of endearment or derogatory depending on the context. And clearly RS intended for it to be the derogatory way. That's the problem for him here. It was absolutely intentional. And being over 50 doesn't give you the excuse for being derogatory toward women.

If he doesn't want to deal with questions from reporters including women perhaps he can go find him a nice Division III job where he doesn't have to worry about it. And while it's stupid for this to be a national story, he was dumb enough to do it on national TV.

This girl is an idiot. Did you listen to the broadcast during the game. She doesn't know basketball at all. All she talked about was how she was a cheerleader at uab. It's clear she doesn't know anything and is on tv cause she is a pretty face but nothing up top.

Two things. Notice the edit I was making above when you were typing this.

Second, like I say there this isn't new (the sideline reporter) whether she knows basketball or not. It's part of the job. It's the coaches responsibility to remain professional no matter how dumb the questions are.

Yep, same line of thought. It's not the smartest thing to say now a days, but he calls young male reporters son all the time. It's the same sort of thing. If a reporter ask stupid questions they are going to get smart Alex remarks.

It's amazing how much things have changed. I'm not that terribly old yet, but I still remember the days of Bob Knight at Indiana. Of course he eventually got himself fired over his antics, but it really is strange to see how things have evolved.

Stansbury is my favorite coach with the media. His press conferences are amazing to watch. Completely serious.