(02-18-2018 03:42 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  Thought I'd throw this in. During Tubby's rough run toward the end of his UK tenure, he was seeking other jobs. He was actually talking to Minnesota while telling UK's administration he was considering a staff change (Tubby was told to change his staff or be fired, the year he left).

He left UK without a word to anyone, not even his boss. He didn't tell the players or talk to them when he left. I believe he did the same thing to TT.

There is a lot about Tubby that the media wont touch. He gets the benefit of the doubt over and over, and the bad parts left unsaid.

If Tubby sees an end to his time in Memphis coming he wont adapt or work to fix anything, he will work on finding his next victim.

I'm a UK fan but hope Memphis does well in conference. Don't give him longer believing it will turn around. Even if it does it's fools gold, he wont sustain it.

I lived in Madisonville,KY during the Kentucky Tubby years.
Cat fans were pretty down on Tubby. His nickname in public at that time was "ten loss Tubby"
Didn't remember the staff change exchange with the school...but that probably didn't make his job any easier...and his Houdini act actually opened up Cat fans for the glorious Billy G years LOL

(02-18-2018 05:00 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 03:42 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  Thought I'd throw this in. During Tubby's rough run toward the end of his UK tenure, he was seeking other jobs. He was actually talking to Minnesota while telling UK's administration he was considering a staff change (Tubby was told to change his staff or be fired, the year he left).

He left UK without a word to anyone, not even his boss. He didn't tell the players or talk to them when he left. I believe he did the same thing to TT.

There is a lot about Tubby that the media wont touch. He gets the benefit of the doubt over and over, and the bad parts left unsaid.

If Tubby sees an end to his time in Memphis coming he wont adapt or work to fix anything, he will work on finding his next victim.

I'm a UK fan but hope Memphis does well in conference. Don't give him longer believing it will turn around. Even if it does it's fools gold, he wont sustain it.

I lived in Madisonville,KY during the Kentucky Tubby years.
Cat fans were pretty down on Tubby. His nickname in public at that time was "ten loss Tubby"
Didn't remember the staff change exchange with the school...but that probably didn't make his job any easier...and his Houdini act actually opened up Cat fans for the glorious Billy G years LOL

Yep, good ole 10 loss tubs.

He had a good run at UK (not fantastic), 5 sec titles, 5 Elite eights, title with Ricks players. We were all ready for him to go, probably 3 years prior. It didn't help that he was chose over Billy Donovan then Donovan blows up.

Mitch Barnhart is responsible for Billy G, and he is no longer in charge of basketball for that and for trying to evade the Cal hire. He's a hatchet man, cant stand him.

But hey, UK and Memphis are connected forever now. Almost like we're the same program. May Penny come on board and the relationship continue...

Well, it is interesting times with all signs pointing to a major shakeup once new findings from the FBI probe come out. Many schools will look to recover. Who bettter than a squeaky clean HOF coach who’s discontent in Memphis? We may get bailed out again!

(02-18-2018 03:36 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  possibly for another job, because he wasn’t happy here? There was some talk about it. Anyone know much about that?

Never heard a word, who could have been HAPPY in that mess self created and he ain’t giving up $12, 9,or 6 million.

(02-18-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  We all heard the same things when josh was here. He wouldn’t leave, he wouldn’t be fired, no way he would get another job etc. etc.

We’ll soon find out what happens. I’ve said I don’t think he’s coming back. That’s just my opinion. We’ll see what happens but all the hand wringing in the world does nothing at this point.

Handwringing is better than stress eating imo

(02-18-2018 03:45 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 03:42 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  Thought I'd throw this in. During Tubby's rough run toward the end of his UK tenure, he was seeking other jobs. He was actually talking to Minnesota while telling UK's administration he was considering a staff change (Tubby was told to change his staff or be fired, the year he left).

He left UK without a word to anyone, not even his boss. He didn't tell the players or talk to them when he left. I believe he did the same thing to TT.

There is a lot about Tubby that the media wont touch. He gets the benefit of the doubt over and over, and the bad parts left unsaid.

If Tubby sees an end to his time in Memphis coming he wont adapt or work to fix anything, he will work on finding his next victim.

I'm a UK fan but hope Memphis does well in conference. Don't give him longer believing it will turn around. Even if it does it's fools gold, he wont sustain it.

IF Tubby goes behind the fanbase's back and lands another job like you say there will be hell to pay. Our fans will be OUTRAGED.

Quote:IF Tubby goes behind the fanbase's back and lands another job like you say there will be hell to pay. 4 of our fans will be OUTRAGED.

Fixed It For Myself

Okay I see what did there

(02-18-2018 03:36 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  possibly for another job, because he wasn’t happy here? There was some talk about it. Anyone know much about that?

Rumor is he reached out to Missouri.

(02-18-2018 03:40 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  He’s not leaving on his own.

-$3m + a year
-Doesn’t have to recruit
-No expectations from his bosses
-Doesn’t have to do any PR work

At this point, Rudd & Bowen might as well let him finish his 5 years and then hire Saul as coach.

As Jed Clampett said.....a man would be a fool to leave all of this.

(02-18-2018 04:54 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  We all heard the same things when josh was here. He wouldn’t leave, he wouldn’t be fired, no way he would get another job etc. etc.

We’ll soon find out what happens. I’ve said I don’t think he’s coming back. That’s just my opinion. We’ll see what happens but all the hand wringing in the world does nothing at this point.

I can't think of any scenarios where he will be back. Both sides will use common sense to make it happen.

You really think TS walks away from nearly $10m?

I think what will happen is that he will be given a choice to be fired and get his full pay or say that he resigned and take an undisclosed amount that is a little bit less. You can put a value on dignity, the only question is what the number is.

I think that there is about a 10% chance that he is back next year.

(02-18-2018 09:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:54 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  We all heard the same things when josh was here. He wouldn’t leave, he wouldn’t be fired, no way he would get another job etc. etc.

We’ll soon find out what happens. I’ve said I don’t think he’s coming back. That’s just my opinion. We’ll see what happens but all the hand wringing in the world does nothing at this point.

I can't think of any scenarios where he will be back. Both sides will use common sense to make it happen.

You really think TS walks away from nearly $10m?

I think what will happen is that he will be given a choice to be fired and get his full pay or say that he resigned and take an undisclosed amount that is a little bit less. You can put a value on dignity, the only question is what the number is.

I think that there is about a 10% chance that he is back next year.

If you turn out to be right, I’ll buy you a steak dinner! Just let me know when you’re in town.

(02-18-2018 06:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 03:36 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  possibly for another job, because he wasn’t happy here? There was some talk about it. Anyone know much about that?

Rumor is he reached out to Missouri.

Ok, thanks. I thought so. Just didn’t know the school.

I wonder if he’s doing it again? I would think so.

If they were only that savvy .

(02-18-2018 10:11 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 06:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 03:36 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  possibly for another job, because he wasn’t happy here? There was some talk about it. Anyone know much about that?

Rumor is he reached out to Missouri.

Ok, thanks. I thought so. Just didn’t know the school.

I wonder if he’s doing it again? I would think so.

I would respect Tubby more if he was doing that instead of just riding it out and collection what he is owed.

Respectively disagree. IMO there is a 90% chance he will be back. The administration is giving him 3 years period... Next year if there is not a major turnaround in wins he will be bought out.

(02-18-2018 09:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:54 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  We all heard the same things when josh was here. He wouldn’t leave, he wouldn’t be fired, no way he would get another job etc. etc.

We’ll soon find out what happens. I’ve said I don’t think he’s coming back. That’s just my opinion. We’ll see what happens but all the hand wringing in the world does nothing at this point.

I can't think of any scenarios where he will be back. Both sides will use common sense to make it happen.

You really think TS walks away from nearly $10m?

I think what will happen is that he will be given a choice to be fired and get his full pay or say that he resigned and take an undisclosed amount that is a little bit less. You can put a value on dignity, the only question is what the number is.

I think that there is about a 10% chance that he is back next year.

(02-18-2018 09:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:54 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  We all heard the same things when josh was here. He wouldn’t leave, he wouldn’t be fired, no way he would get another job etc. etc.

We’ll soon find out what happens. I’ve said I don’t think he’s coming back. That’s just my opinion. We’ll see what happens but all the hand wringing in the world does nothing at this point.

I can't think of any scenarios where he will be back. Both sides will use common sense to make it happen.

You really think TS walks away from nearly $10m?

I think what will happen is that he will be given a choice to be fired and get his full pay or say that he resigned and take an undisclosed amount that is a little bit less. You can put a value on dignity, the only question is what the number is.

I think that there is about a 10% chance that he is back next year.

If they were only that savvy .

(02-18-2018 10:47 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  Respectively disagree. IMO there is a 90% chance he will be back. The administration is giving him 3 years period... Next year if there is not a major turnaround in wins he will be bought out.

(02-18-2018 09:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:54 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  We all heard the same things when josh was here. He wouldn’t leave, he wouldn’t be fired, no way he would get another job etc. etc.

We’ll soon find out what happens. I’ve said I don’t think he’s coming back. That’s just my opinion. We’ll see what happens but all the hand wringing in the world does nothing at this point.

I can't think of any scenarios where he will be back. Both sides will use common sense to make it happen.

You really think TS walks away from nearly $10m?

I think what will happen is that he will be given a choice to be fired and get his full pay or say that he resigned and take an undisclosed amount that is a little bit less. You can put a value on dignity, the only question is what the number is.

I think that there is about a 10% chance that he is back next year.

Agreed...They couldn't stomach buying Pastner out for the same amount of money I think they feel the same about Tubby.

Or Maybe the crap that Pastner is going through off the court gets him canned at Gtech and they bail us out again.

There will be a lot of schools looking for a clean coach after the NCAA sanctions are leveled due to the FBI report.

(02-18-2018 10:51 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 10:47 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  Respectively disagree. IMO there is a 90% chance he will be back. The administration is giving him 3 years period... Next year if there is not a major turnaround in wins he will be bought out.

(02-18-2018 09:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:54 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 04:35 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I can't think of any scenarios where he will be back. Both sides will use common sense to make it happen.

You really think TS walks away from nearly $10m?

I think what will happen is that he will be given a choice to be fired and get his full pay or say that he resigned and take an undisclosed amount that is a little bit less. You can put a value on dignity, the only question is what the number is.

I think that there is about a 10% chance that he is back next year.

Agreed...They couldn't stomach buying Pastner out for the same amount of money I think they feel the same about Tubby.

Or Maybe the crap that Pastner is going through off the court gets him canned at Gtech and they bail us out again.

Many assume that Pastner wouldn't have been fired.

Tubby has one simple problem that overrrides all other issues; he's just too comfortable coaching teams that maintain a KenPom rating in the mid to high 100s. Programs like ours that desire to be a Top 25 contender are a poor match for his career aspirations.

(02-18-2018 03:42 PM)DburgCat Wrote:  Thought I'd throw this in. During Tubby's rough run toward the end of his UK tenure, he was seeking other jobs. He was actually talking to Minnesota while telling UK's administration he was considering a staff change (Tubby was told to change his staff or be fired, the year he left).

He left UK without a word to anyone, not even his boss. He didn't tell the players or talk to them when he left. I believe he did the same thing to TT.

There is a lot about Tubby that the media wont touch. He gets the benefit of the doubt over and over, and the bad parts left unsaid.

If Tubby sees an end to his time in Memphis coming he wont adapt or work to fix anything, he will work on finding his next victim.

I'm a UK fan but hope Memphis does well in conference. Don't give him longer believing it will turn around. Even if it does it's fools gold, he wont sustain it.

You guys still follow him with your negative posts wherever he goes? Many UK fans call Tubby years as good old days. Are you mad because of his accomplishments? He took you guys to the dance every single year that he coached your team. After he left, BCG took over and took your program to the ground. Then, you got Cal as the best coach in the world. You pay him about 10-20 million dollars a year to streamline players to NBA. Are you mad because you guys got kicked out on NIT with all of your 5* players in the 1st round? Are you mad because you may not make the dance this year again with your 5* players? I am not sure why you are so mad?????? Players who played during Tubby's era call themselves Cats. How many of the Cal's players ever call themselves a Cat? Show some class and acknowledge the guy who brought so much fun to your program. There was some down times but he always took you to the dance something that you will be watching on TV this year with all of your 5* players who will be packing their bags for NBA.