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(02-12-2018 04:45 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:30 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
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(02-12-2018 04:12 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Cal was sleazy (and water is wet). He surrounded himself with sleazy bag men. For now, he's learned how to do that with less of a rat trail at UK.

For all of his flaws, most of Huggins demons were inward facing.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

Bob Huggins is amoral.

Anybody trying to defend the man casts aspersions on themselves.

He won games - plain and simple. Leave it at that. Same as Calipari. Neither did things the right way and both live on in infamy coaching at amoral institutions.

Pitino, Calipari, Huggins - 3 peas in a rotten pod.


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and all 3 better than Greg Marshall

That's just plain silly talk. Gregg Marshall is a saint!






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Yea, but is his wife? Tee hee https://www.spartareport.com/2017/03/wif...ment-game/

This may come across a tad off-color. Hopefully my sterling reputation on here allows for a little latitude.

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(02-12-2018 04:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  I realize this is the internet but facts are helpful little things even here. Very transparent of you to leave off all that information that showed you were talking about things you know nothing about. Of course that comment does that well, all by it's self.

Here's some Tubby facts you clown:

- last time he finished above .500 in conference play, GWB was President

- the last time he made it past 2nd round of NCAAs was 2005

- since he left Kentucky & counting this year, he's made 4 NCAA trips in 11 seasons and won exactly 1 NCAA game.

He. is. a. washed. up. bum.
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Hogwash on those Huggins grad rates. And most everything else on that anti Huggins article.

From Lance McAllister's Website (http://www.lance1360homer.com)

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UC basketball graduation numbers


Fact: 27 players who have completed their eligibility during Bob Huggins
coaching tenure have graduated....

Fact: 11 of the last 16 seniors to complete their eligibility under
Huggins have earned their degree.
Fact: Six years ago UC instituted the Recall Program, which encourages
all student-athletes who leave to play professionally and did not complete
their degree, to return to UC and finish, with assistance provided by UC.
Fact: UC had a graduation rate of 100-percent in the 2002 NCAA Division
1 grad rates.
Fact: During the 2001-02 academic year, UC men's basketball won the CUSA
Sports Academic Award for the league's best GPA.
Fact: Leonard Stokes not only earned his degree, he earned it before
taking the court for his senior season in 2002-03.

***Bearcat Graduates under Bob Huggins
Steve Sanders, BA Communications Art, '90
Benjamin Ward, BS Criminal Justice '92
Michael Reicheneker, BS Criminal Justice, '92
Andre Tate, BS Criminal Justice, '92
Keith Starks, BS Criminal Justice, '92
Anthony Buford, BA Economics, '92
Jeff Scott, BS Sociology, '93
Erik Martin, BS Criminal Justice, '93
Keith Gregor, BA Health Promotions, '96
Terry Nelson, BA Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, '98
Terrance Davis, BS Criminal Justice, '98
Jackson Julson, BA Communications, '99
Keith Legree, BS Criminal Justice, '99
Levertis Robinson, BS Criminology, '97
Rodrick Monroe, BS Criminal Justice, '97
Ryan Fletcher, BS Criminal Justice, '00
Donald Little, BS Liberal Arts.Social Sciences, '02
Rodney Crawford, BS Criminal Justice, '02
Leonard Stokes, BS Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, '02
Jimmy Hubbard, BS Criminal Justice, MA Labor and
Employee Relations, '03
Derek Hollman, BS Criminal Justice, '03
Rod Flowers, BS Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, '03
Taron Barker, BS Criminal Justice, '03
Field Williams, BS Criminal Justice, '04
John Meeker, BS Marketing, '05
Jason Maxiell, BS, '05
Nick Williams, BS, '05
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(02-12-2018 05:01 PM)payday Wrote:  Hogwash on those Huggins grad rates. And most everything else on that anti Huggins article.

From Lance McAllister's Website (http://www.lance1360homer.com)

--------------
UC basketball graduation numbers


Fact: 27 players who have completed their eligibility during Bob Huggins
coaching tenure have graduated....

Fact: 11 of the last 16 seniors to complete their eligibility under
Huggins have earned their degree.
Fact: Six years ago UC instituted the Recall Program, which encourages
all student-athletes who leave to play professionally and did not complete
their degree, to return to UC and finish, with assistance provided by UC.
Fact: UC had a graduation rate of 100-percent in the 2002 NCAA Division
1 grad rates.
Fact: During the 2001-02 academic year, UC men's basketball won the CUSA
Sports Academic Award for the league's best GPA.
Fact: Leonard Stokes not only earned his degree, he earned it before
taking the court for his senior season in 2002-03.

***Bearcat Graduates under Bob Huggins
Steve Sanders, BA Communications Art, '90
Benjamin Ward, BS Criminal Justice '92
Michael Reicheneker, BS Criminal Justice, '92
Andre Tate, BS Criminal Justice, '92
Keith Starks, BS Criminal Justice, '92
Anthony Buford, BA Economics, '92
Jeff Scott, BS Sociology, '93
Erik Martin, BS Criminal Justice, '93
Keith Gregor, BA Health Promotions, '96
Terry Nelson, BA Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, '98
Terrance Davis, BS Criminal Justice, '98
Jackson Julson, BA Communications, '99
Keith Legree, BS Criminal Justice, '99
Levertis Robinson, BS Criminology, '97
Rodrick Monroe, BS Criminal Justice, '97
Ryan Fletcher, BS Criminal Justice, '00
Donald Little, BS Liberal Arts.Social Sciences, '02
Rodney Crawford, BS Criminal Justice, '02
Leonard Stokes, BS Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, '02
Jimmy Hubbard, BS Criminal Justice, MA Labor and
Employee Relations, '03
Derek Hollman, BS Criminal Justice, '03
Rod Flowers, BS Liberal Arts/Social Sciences, '03
Taron Barker, BS Criminal Justice, '03
Field Williams, BS Criminal Justice, '04
John Meeker, BS Marketing, '05
Jason Maxiell, BS, '05
Nick Williams, BS, '05

The very definition of irony^^

Thuggins 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao


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Jason Maxiell was the only player drafted by the NBA (1st round) that year who had graduated. Huggins final year at UC.
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Criminal justice is the degree of most major sport grads at every university. Except maybe WSU...where it’s cow tipping
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(02-12-2018 05:12 PM)payday Wrote:  Criminal justice is the degree of most major sport grads at every university. Except maybe WSU...where it’s cow tipping

Another hilarious fail.

And a trite, overused retort.
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(02-12-2018 05:12 PM)payday Wrote:  Criminal justice is the degree of most major sport grads at every university. Except maybe WSU...where it’s cow tipping

Another hilarious fail.

And a trite, overused retort.

You WSU fans sure are obsessed with failure. That’s good though. It’s now your life in the AAC.
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(02-12-2018 04:59 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  I realize this is the internet but facts are helpful little things even here. Very transparent of you to leave off all that information that showed you were talking about things you know nothing about. Of course that comment does that well, all by it's self.

Here's some Tubby facts you clown:

- last time he finished above .500 in conference play, GWB was President

- the last time he made it past 2nd round of NCAAs was 2005

- since he left Kentucky & counting this year, he's made 4 NCAA trips in 11 seasons and won exactly 1 NCAA game.

He. is. a. washed. up. bum.


Hmm, since Kentucky ass hat, he took Minnesota to the NCAA 3 out of 5 years, most successful period in their history. They fired him after an NCAA year and have been back once. From Minnesota he went to Texas Tech where they had one winning season the previous ten and one NCAA bid. He got them there in 3 years and his players are earning them a big Xii championship and a number 1 seed.

You're a joke and your basketball knowledge isn't even cursory.
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(02-12-2018 05:28 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:59 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  I realize this is the internet but facts are helpful little things even here. Very transparent of you to leave off all that information that showed you were talking about things you know nothing about. Of course that comment does that well, all by it's self.

Here's some Tubby facts you clown:

- last time he finished above .500 in conference play, GWB was President

- the last time he made it past 2nd round of NCAAs was 2005

- since he left Kentucky & counting this year, he's made 4 NCAA trips in 11 seasons and won exactly 1 NCAA game.

He. is. a. washed. up. bum.


Hmm, since Kentucky ass hat, he took Minnesota to the NCAA 3 out of 5 years, most successful period in their history. They fired him after an NCAA year and have been back once. From Minnesota he went to Texas Tech where they had one winning season the previous ten and one NCAA bid. He got them there in 3 years and his players are earning them a big Xii championship and a number 1 seed.

You're a joke and your basketball knowledge isn't even cursory.

lol

every single thing I posted is 100% true. Minnesota went to the Final 4 in 97 so it wasn't "their most successful era ever". From 94-99, they won 5 NCAA games. You cant even look simple things up. He was at Minny for 6 years. 3 NCAAs, 1 win. That level is great if you're a Tulsa fan. Not so much for a school like Memphis.
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(02-12-2018 05:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:28 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:59 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 04:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  I realize this is the internet but facts are helpful little things even here. Very transparent of you to leave off all that information that showed you were talking about things you know nothing about. Of course that comment does that well, all by it's self.

Here's some Tubby facts you clown:

- last time he finished above .500 in conference play, GWB was President

- the last time he made it past 2nd round of NCAAs was 2005

- since he left Kentucky & counting this year, he's made 4 NCAA trips in 11 seasons and won exactly 1 NCAA game.

He. is. a. washed. up. bum.


Hmm, since Kentucky ass hat, he took Minnesota to the NCAA 3 out of 5 years, most successful period in their history. They fired him after an NCAA year and have been back once. From Minnesota he went to Texas Tech where they had one winning season the previous ten and one NCAA bid. He got them there in 3 years and his players are earning them a big Xii championship and a number 1 seed.

You're a joke and your basketball knowledge isn't even cursory.

lol

every single thing I posted is 100% true. Minnesota went to the Final 4 in 97 so it wasn't "their most successful era ever". From 94-99, they won 5 NCAA games. You cant even look simple things up. He was at Minny for 6 years. 3 NCAAs, 1 win. That level is great if you're a Tulsa fan. Not so much for a school like Memphis.

This is what I mean by cursory, you wikipedia it and still got it wrong. According to the NCAA who vacated games in 1994, 1995, 1997 for violating rules. I.e. much like Memphis they had to cheat to get there. They legit went in 1994 and 1999. From 2008-2013 a five year period during Tubby Smith's coaching tenor they went to the dance three times. Guess what, no cheating and their most successful period.

And 100% accurate is irrelevant without context.

It may be true that I punched a guy in the face. That makes me look like a violent thug.

Then you find out the guy I punched in the face was beating up your grandma, now I'm a good guy.

It's all about context.
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(02-12-2018 05:21 PM)payday Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:17 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:12 PM)payday Wrote:  Criminal justice is the degree of most major sport grads at every university. Except maybe WSU...where it’s cow tipping

Another hilarious fail.

And a trite, overused retort.

You WSU fans sure are obsessed with failure. That’s good though. It’s now your life in the AAC.

You have an interesting definition of the word “failure”. Care to elaborate on that?

You really are a poor representative of the Cincinnati fanbase. You’ve been banned numerous times, you have Cincinnati fans clamoring for you to stop posting, you are a middle-aged man that acts like a high schooler. Ultimate embarrassment.
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(02-12-2018 05:12 PM)payday Wrote:  Criminal justice is the degree of most major sport grads at every university. Except maybe WSU...where it’s cow tipping

[Image: giphy.gif]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/25217...ll-players

Quote:After adding up all the majors from the Power Five conferences, nine distinct clusters stand out from the rest of the pack:

Business (363) and related majors: 931
Communication (308) and journalism: 395
Kinesiology and exercise sciences: 285
Sociology and social sciences: 247
General/interdisciplinary/university studies: 230
Engineering: 184
Sport and recreation management: 181
Criminology and criminal justice: 156
Arts and Sciences: 141

Sports management is a popular one at WSU for the bball players.


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(02-12-2018 05:52 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  This is what I mean by cursory, you wikipedia it and still got it wrong. According to the NCAA who vacated games in 1994, 1995, 1997 for violating rules. I.e. much like Memphis they had to cheat to get there. They legit went in 1994 and 1999. From 2008-2013 a five year period during Tubby Smith's coaching tenor they went to the dance three times. Guess what, no cheating and their most successful period.

And 100% accurate is irrelevant without context.

It may be true that I punched a guy in the face. That makes me look like a violent thug.

Then you find out the guy I punched in the face was beating up your grandma, now I'm a good guy.

It's all about context.

2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013

That's 6 years. He won 1 NCAA tournament game in 6 years. You also failed to address his not finishing above .500 in conf play since 2007 or not making the sweet 16 since 2005. But there's no "context" you can spin there.

As far as NCAA violations, I said before that vacating wins is silly. Everyone knows who played in the F4. But I will sit back and just lol at Frank Haith. He's gotten busted at 2 schools and yet to make a sweet 16. Cheats and still sucks.
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(02-13-2018 08:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:52 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  This is what I mean by cursory, you wikipedia it and still got it wrong. According to the NCAA who vacated games in 1994, 1995, 1997 for violating rules. I.e. much like Memphis they had to cheat to get there. They legit went in 1994 and 1999. From 2008-2013 a five year period during Tubby Smith's coaching tenor they went to the dance three times. Guess what, no cheating and their most successful period.

And 100% accurate is irrelevant without context.

It may be true that I punched a guy in the face. That makes me look like a violent thug.

Then you find out the guy I punched in the face was beating up your grandma, now I'm a good guy.

It's all about context.

2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013

That's 6 years. He won 1 NCAA tournament game in 6 years. You also failed to address his not finishing above .500 in conf play since 2007 or not making the sweet 16 since 2005. But there's no "context" you can spin there.

As far as NCAA violations, I said before that vacating wins is silly. Everyone knows who played in the F4. But I will sit back and just lol at Frank Haith. He's gotten busted at 2 schools and yet to make a sweet 16. Cheats and still sucks.

Memphis' biggest sin in 2008 was not being named North Carolina. Until the NCAA starts dealing consistently with all programs, the vacated season thing will continue to be a joke.
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(02-11-2018 08:05 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Houston is scary good I see 4 teams in for sure

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Who do you think the fourth is?
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(02-13-2018 09:41 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 08:11 PM)canewton Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 08:05 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Houston is scary good I see 4 teams in for sure

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Who do you think the fourth is?
Temple or ucf

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BC or CCSU
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(02-13-2018 10:24 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:41 AM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 08:11 PM)canewton Wrote:  
(02-11-2018 08:05 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Houston is scary good I see 4 teams in for sure

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Temple or ucf

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BC or CCSU
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(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 08:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:52 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  This is what I mean by cursory, you wikipedia it and still got it wrong. According to the NCAA who vacated games in 1994, 1995, 1997 for violating rules. I.e. much like Memphis they had to cheat to get there. They legit went in 1994 and 1999. From 2008-2013 a five year period during Tubby Smith's coaching tenor they went to the dance three times. Guess what, no cheating and their most successful period.

And 100% accurate is irrelevant without context.

It may be true that I punched a guy in the face. That makes me look like a violent thug.

Then you find out the guy I punched in the face was beating up your grandma, now I'm a good guy.

It's all about context.

2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013

That's 6 years. He won 1 NCAA tournament game in 6 years. You also failed to address his not finishing above .500 in conf play since 2007 or not making the sweet 16 since 2005. But there's no "context" you can spin there.

As far as NCAA violations, I said before that vacating wins is silly. Everyone knows who played in the F4. But I will sit back and just lol at Frank Haith. He's gotten busted at 2 schools and yet to make a sweet 16. Cheats and still sucks.

Memphis' biggest sin in 2008 was not being named North Carolina. Until the NCAA starts dealing consistently with all programs, the vacated season thing will continue to be a joke.


So I can get it both at once.

A three year run out of five is the best period ever in Minnesota's history. Tubby was their coach. Building a program takes time, that Tubby took a program with virtually no history to the NCAA is remarkable, that he was still building the program to 500 in a conference with Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and a lesser degree Illinois shouldn't be a surprise. You know what is? That since the tournament expanded their have been eleven 20 win seasons for the gophers, five of them are Tubby's. If you don't count vacated seasons it's nine 20 win seasons and Tubby is responsible for more than half. Tubby has more NCAA appearences then their current coach will in the same time and more than the previous coach did with an extra year. In fact Tubby took Minnesota to the NCAA's more than both of them combined.

I also noticed you failed to mention Tubby's back to back semifinal runs in the big ten tournament or that in the last 20 years Minnesota has 3 winning records in the big ten. That they are 30-56 (.349) in big ten play since he left with 1 NIT and 1 NCAA and a Possible NIT this year. Tubby mean while was 47- 62 (.431) with 3 NCAA's and 2 NITS. Before Tubby they were 38-58 (.396) in a similar time period with 2 NITs and 1 NCAA.

Tubby had five 20 win seasons and no losing ones. Before him? Two losing seasons and one 20 win season. Since, one losing season, two 20 win seasons and quite possibly a losing season this year. They're 14-13 right now with #2 Michigan State and Iowa at home and away to Wisconsin and #6 Purdue. Iowa at home is the only game they are favored.

Tubby out performed the program, period. In fact he preformed very comparably to the cheating teams of the mid 90s, even though they have more NCAA victories and went 112-64. Tubby turned in a 124-84 record and as many invites to the dance though fewer NITs. Of course the main difference is his counted.

At Texas Tech he was there for only 3 years. The two previous three year periods Tech went 9-43 (.173) 2007-10 and from 2010-13 Tech was 14-34 (.291) in big Xii play. Under Tubby they went 18-36 (.333) with the two most win totals including his final year of 9-9. Tubby took them to the NCAA's while the previous four coaches over six years made one NIT. Again clearly out performing the program. Currently Texas Tech is leading the big xii, three of the five starters are Tubby's players. The statistical leaders of the major categories (points, assists, and rebounds) are Tubby players.

Now when it comes to cheating I don't expect a program with Memphis' stellar record to understand, but cheating isn't good. You're right everyone remembers who won the games for a year or two. Later when they look it up they will see the little asterisk. Especially when it comes to the student part cheating is cheating. You didn't do the school work like everyone else. So officially you get bupkis as you should. We wouldn't recognize a feather weight champ who came in at 220 lbs and beat the other guy who made weight.

Hey I tell you what when Tulsa gets popped for a violation come talk to me cause my school is squeaky clean. In the mean time try and rebuild that shattered glass house like your shattered dreams.

You have proven yet again how little you know or understand about basketball at a collegiate level and your bias is blatant. I'm done proving you wrong, it's not even hard and obvious you're clueless. You'll continue your little personal vendetta regardless of the facts and context.

Tubby has almost nothing to do with your program problems, those belong at the feet of Paschal and Calapari. The former because he couldn't coach X's and O's and the latter for his rule violations.
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(02-13-2018 01:33 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 09:34 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 08:56 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(02-12-2018 05:52 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  This is what I mean by cursory, you wikipedia it and still got it wrong. According to the NCAA who vacated games in 1994, 1995, 1997 for violating rules. I.e. much like Memphis they had to cheat to get there. They legit went in 1994 and 1999. From 2008-2013 a five year period during Tubby Smith's coaching tenor they went to the dance three times. Guess what, no cheating and their most successful period.

And 100% accurate is irrelevant without context.

It may be true that I punched a guy in the face. That makes me look like a violent thug.

Then you find out the guy I punched in the face was beating up your grandma, now I'm a good guy.

It's all about context.

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That's 6 years. He won 1 NCAA tournament game in 6 years. You also failed to address his not finishing above .500 in conf play since 2007 or not making the sweet 16 since 2005. But there's no "context" you can spin there.

As far as NCAA violations, I said before that vacating wins is silly. Everyone knows who played in the F4. But I will sit back and just lol at Frank Haith. He's gotten busted at 2 schools and yet to make a sweet 16. Cheats and still sucks.

Memphis' biggest sin in 2008 was not being named North Carolina. Until the NCAA starts dealing consistently with all programs, the vacated season thing will continue to be a joke.


So I can get it both at once.

A three year run out of five is the best period ever in Minnesota's history. Tubby was their coach. Building a program takes time, that Tubby took a program with virtually no history to the NCAA is remarkable, that he was still building the program to 500 in a conference with Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and a lesser degree Illinois shouldn't be a surprise. You know what is? That since the tournament expanded their have been eleven 20 win seasons for the gophers, five of them are Tubby's. If you don't count vacated seasons it's nine 20 win seasons and Tubby is responsible for more than half. Tubby has more NCAA appearences then their current coach will in the same time and more than the previous coach did with an extra year. In fact Tubby took Minnesota to the NCAA's more than both of them combined.

I also noticed you failed to mention Tubby's back to back semifinal runs in the big ten tournament or that in the last 20 years Minnesota has 3 winning records in the big ten. That they are 30-56 (.349) in big ten play since he left with 1 NIT and 1 NCAA and a Possible NIT this year. Tubby mean while was 47- 62 (.431) with 3 NCAA's and 2 NITS. Before Tubby they were 38-58 (.396) in a similar time period with 2 NITs and 1 NCAA.

Tubby had five 20 win seasons and no losing ones. Before him? Two losing seasons and one 20 win season. Since, one losing season, two 20 win seasons and quite possibly a losing season this year. They're 14-13 right now with #2 Michigan State and Iowa at home and away to Wisconsin and #6 Purdue. Iowa at home is the only game they are favored.

Tubby out performed the program, period. In fact he preformed very comparably to the cheating teams of the mid 90s, even though they have more NCAA victories and went 112-64. Tubby turned in a 124-84 record and as many invites to the dance though fewer NITs. Of course the main difference is his counted.

At Texas Tech he was there for only 3 years. The two previous three year periods Tech went 9-43 (.173) 2007-10 and from 2010-13 Tech was 14-34 (.291) in big Xii play. Under Tubby they went 18-36 (.333) with the two most win totals including his final year of 9-9. Tubby took them to the NCAA's while the previous four coaches over six years made one NIT. Again clearly out performing the program. Currently Texas Tech is leading the big xii, three of the five starters are Tubby's players. The statistical leaders of the major categories (points, assists, and rebounds) are Tubby players.

Now when it comes to cheating I don't expect a program with Memphis' stellar record to understand, but cheating isn't good. You're right everyone remembers who won the games for a year or two. Later when they look it up they will see the little asterisk. Especially when it comes to the student part cheating is cheating. You didn't do the school work like everyone else. So officially you get bupkis as you should. We wouldn't recognize a feather weight champ who came in at 220 lbs and beat the other guy who made weight.

Hey I tell you what when Tulsa gets popped for a violation come talk to me cause my school is squeaky clean. In the mean time try and rebuild that shattered glass house like your shattered dreams.

You have proven yet again how little you know or understand about basketball at a collegiate level and your bias is blatant. I'm done proving you wrong, it's not even hard and obvious you're clueless. You'll continue your little personal vendetta regardless of the facts and context.

Tubby has almost nothing to do with your program problems, those belong at the feet of Paschal and Calapari. The former because he couldn't coach X's and O's and the latter for his rule violations.

I think you have me confused with another poster. I haven't mentioned Tubby at all.
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