(01-27-2018 12:43 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 01:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You know, its much more fun when you have zero open scholarships for February and get to sit and watch everyone else battle for a kid.

Well, I guess we technically have one open spot, but all of our recruiting right now appears to be focused on the next pack of blueshirts for August.

The new recruiting rules are not completely clear, but I think they will make blueshirting much more difficult. As I understand them, a school can only give out 25 scholarships in a calendar year now, which means you can't put someone on scholarship in August if you've already signed your 25 in February (the December signees can count forward or backwards). Grayshirting would still work.
Again, I'm not 100% on this, but it seems the most likely interpretation based on what I've been told.

We signed everyone in December anyway, so I doubt it makes a difference. That being said, I don't anticipate that being the actual read.

Had a chance to talk to a coach about it. The rule is going to be that you may not blueshirt more players than you did the previous class. Eventually that will phase out blueshirting, but it will still be in use for a little while longer.

(01-28-2018 09:21 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:21 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Interestingly, everyone program's average star rating took a hit when their athletes signed. This didn't seem to happen as much to other conferences. We had several teams in the 80's this morning, now we are all 79 or less.

(12-20-2017 02:24 PM)panama Wrote:  247 just downgraded two of our 3* to 2*. Just wow.

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(12-20-2017 03:03 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  not sure why so called "experts" lower recruits' ratings after they sign with SBC schools. We saw couple 3 stars become 2 stars today. For example, a RB with 83 rating received a 75 rating from 247. That is a questionably huge difference. 83 means he can contribute right away as a rotation player. 75 means he is a long-term project who needs to be groomed for 2-3 years. So which is it?

(12-20-2017 03:55 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:38 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(12-20-2017 02:35 PM)HighCountry Wrote:  ...and there it is

https://twitter.com/AppState_FB/status/9...1940424704

Had some real good offers

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Stepho...tInterests

Once again you make my point about these ratings sites. I trust our coaches, esp Satterfield, when it comes to evualating talent. Brown had several P5 guys (Big 10) contact him later in the season, but he is a young man of high character and said thanks but no thanks.

Well whadda ya know, one of our former DL commits that had a two-star rating all of the sudden has offers from Miami, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, and Virginia. #recruitingclassrankingsaretrash

He does not even have a composite score yet? Could it be he was just now being evaled? It is not a conspiracy. A kid that is ranked nationally, at his position and in the state of FLA is probably a three star easily. If he is rated by ESPN and Rivals he might end up even higher. You guys act like these sites have hundreds of guys pouring over tape checking stats and camps. Sometimes they dont get to kids until the last minute especially ones that are not committed.

Anyway I'll never get why folks that think they are trash check rankings like its their jobs lol and yes they matter or ULM has just really bad coaching and development for decades. Just glad CCL is killing it and already touching base with 2019 guys now.

(01-28-2018 10:28 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 12:43 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 01:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You know, its much more fun when you have zero open scholarships for February and get to sit and watch everyone else battle for a kid.

Well, I guess we technically have one open spot, but all of our recruiting right now appears to be focused on the next pack of blueshirts for August.

The new recruiting rules are not completely clear, but I think they will make blueshirting much more difficult. As I understand them, a school can only give out 25 scholarships in a calendar year now, which means you can't put someone on scholarship in August if you've already signed your 25 in February (the December signees can count forward or backwards). Grayshirting would still work.
Again, I'm not 100% on this, but it seems the most likely interpretation based on what I've been told.

We signed everyone in December anyway, so I doubt it makes a difference. That being said, I don't anticipate that being the actual read.

Had a chance to talk to a coach about it. The rule is going to be that you may not blueshirt more players than you did the previous class. Eventually that will phase out blueshirting, but it will still be in use for a little while longer.

Anderson is convinced they won't phase it out at all. I think there's a lot of confusion with the new rules as to what coaches can and can't do. The theory is that if you eliminate blueshirts, every potential player who didn't sign in February would be essentially screwed. I'm just not sure they'll ever take that approach. It would hurt the athlete more than the school.

It feels like Half our class in most years are blueshirts, so I'm not really sure we'll ever get rid of it. Even if the NCAA Blocks it, we'll find a way around it.

Desmond Trotter commits to South Alabama

"Trotter is South Alabama's first quarterback commitment for the Class of 2018, and thus fills a key need. The Jaguars return three senior quarterbacks next season, plus rising redshirt freshman Cephus Johnson."


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...river_home

(01-29-2018 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Desmond Trotter commits to South Alabama

"Trotter is South Alabama's first quarterback commitment for the Class of 2018, and thus fills a key need. The Jaguars return three senior quarterbacks next season, plus rising redshirt freshman Cephus Johnson."


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...river_home

You guys are in a really great position to have an explosive offense this year.

(01-29-2018 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Desmond Trotter commits to South Alabama

"Trotter is South Alabama's first quarterback commitment for the Class of 2018, and thus fills a key need. The Jaguars return three senior quarterbacks next season, plus rising redshirt freshman Cephus Johnson."


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...river_home

This article came out earlier the same day.

https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114336669


"USA enters 2018 with three redshirt senior quarterbacks (Dallas Davis, Cole Garvin and Evan Orth) and one redshirt freshman (Cephus Johnson), so Trotter will be a key part of the depth chart in 2019."

(01-29-2018 11:58 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Desmond Trotter commits to South Alabama

"Trotter is South Alabama's first quarterback commitment for the Class of 2018, and thus fills a key need. The Jaguars return three senior quarterbacks next season, plus rising redshirt freshman Cephus Johnson."


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...river_home

You guys are in a really great position to have an explosive offense this year.

I think it'll be transitional. The OL will need to improve mightily for the offense to take a big step. While coaching OL is Campbell's strength, it'll take time to see improvement there.

(01-29-2018 12:37 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 11:58 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Desmond Trotter commits to South Alabama

"Trotter is South Alabama's first quarterback commitment for the Class of 2018, and thus fills a key need. The Jaguars return three senior quarterbacks next season, plus rising redshirt freshman Cephus Johnson."


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...river_home

You guys are in a really great position to have an explosive offense this year.

I think it'll be transitional. The OL will need to improve mightily for the offense to take a big step. While coaching OL is Campbell's strength, it'll take time to see improvement there.

In the run game sure, but in Edenfield's offense a QB with a quick release can alleviate much of those troubles.

(01-29-2018 12:39 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 12:37 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 11:58 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 11:11 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  Desmond Trotter commits to South Alabama

"Trotter is South Alabama's first quarterback commitment for the Class of 2018, and thus fills a key need. The Jaguars return three senior quarterbacks next season, plus rising redshirt freshman Cephus Johnson."


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...river_home

You guys are in a really great position to have an explosive offense this year.

I think it'll be transitional. The OL will need to improve mightily for the offense to take a big step. While coaching OL is Campbell's strength, it'll take time to see improvement there.

In the run game sure, but in Edenfield's offense a QB with a quick release can alleviate much of those troubles.

The offensive line was truly wretched last year. Even the quick pass stuff was difficult to run down the stretch. Campbell will insist on establishing the ground game anyway.
Don't get me wrong, I think the offense will be better this year, I'm just not looking for anything too explosive in year one.

(01-29-2018 11:11 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:28 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 12:43 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:20 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 01:42 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  You know, its much more fun when you have zero open scholarships for February and get to sit and watch everyone else battle for a kid.

Well, I guess we technically have one open spot, but all of our recruiting right now appears to be focused on the next pack of blueshirts for August.

The new recruiting rules are not completely clear, but I think they will make blueshirting much more difficult. As I understand them, a school can only give out 25 scholarships in a calendar year now, which means you can't put someone on scholarship in August if you've already signed your 25 in February (the December signees can count forward or backwards). Grayshirting would still work.
Again, I'm not 100% on this, but it seems the most likely interpretation based on what I've been told.

We signed everyone in December anyway, so I doubt it makes a difference. That being said, I don't anticipate that being the actual read.

Had a chance to talk to a coach about it. The rule is going to be that you may not blueshirt more players than you did the previous class. Eventually that will phase out blueshirting, but it will still be in use for a little while longer.

Anderson is convinced they won't phase it out at all. I think there's a lot of confusion with the new rules as to what coaches can and can't do. The theory is that if you eliminate blueshirts, every potential player who didn't sign in February would be essentially screwed. I'm just not sure they'll ever take that approach. It would hurt the athlete more than the school.

It feels like Half our class in most years are blueshirts, so I'm not really sure we'll ever get rid of it. Even if the NCAA Blocks it, we'll find a way around it.

As it stands right now, as long as you keep using it you won't lose it. One of the goals in the new recruiting legislation was to stop oversigning and blueshirting had become the tool of choice for that. Butch Jones added a couple of huge classes at UT that way. Bluehsirting may hang around permanently in some fashion, but they will limit it more stringently than before.

it is amazing what Lunsford has been able to do in getting this class turned around.

The incompetence by Tyson Summers just becomes even more and more evident.

After we get our next commit which is a 3 star RB, that will put us at number 3 in the conference. Not bad given the past 2 years.

(01-29-2018 01:56 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  it is amazing what Lunsford has been able to do in getting this class turned around.

The incompetence by Tyson Summers just becomes even more and more evident.

After we get our next commit which is a 3 star RB, that will put us at number 3 in the conference. Not bad given the past 2 years.

One of our offensive linemen as of now has the lowest rating on 247 possible (0.700) that will likely move up to at least a high two-star (probably a three-star, but who knows with recruiting rankings).

The class is pretty impressive for a guy that took over the program in November, though, that's for sure.

South signs 2* RB Carlos Davis 5'10 205lbs https://247sports.com/Player/Carlos-Davis-46040969

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...iver_index

(01-29-2018 02:34 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  South signs 3* RB Carlos Davis 5'10 205lbs https://247sports.com/Player/Carlos-Davis-46040969

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...iver_index

Both weekend commitments were covered in this article -
https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114336669

USA just added a commitment from an offensive lineman from Moss Point, MS, Wyatt Green. He will either sign in February or be a blueshirt based on what happens with another recruit or two.

https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114370404

Cajuns add Kameron Jones OT from Starkville, Ms. Previously a Memphis commit.

https://247sports.com/Player/Kameron-Jones-46039808

(01-29-2018 01:56 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  it is amazing what Lunsford has been able to do in getting this class turned around.

The incompetence by Tyson Summers just becomes even more and more evident.

After we get our next commit which is a 3 star RB, that will put us at number 3 in the conference. Not bad given the past 2 years.

Remember stars dont matter lol...but CCL seems to care as he touts the stars rankings so do the other coaches. He has killed it though he did more in a month that Tyson did in a year and half. If we can make and win a bowl next year or better the 2019 class should be crazy with a full year for him and his staff to establish relationships. We only have one recruit with all three rankings so far so expect some movement hopefully all up but some could drop.

Looks like Coach Campbell is going to fix up the running game so we can have consistent offense. Getting some big OL to open up some holes.

(01-29-2018 04:12 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Cajuns add Kameron Jones OT from Starkville, Ms. Previously a Memphis commit.

https://247sports.com/Player/Kameron-Jones-46039808

UL coaches getting no sleep lol, nice one!

(01-29-2018 03:28 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 02:34 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  South signs 3* RB Carlos Davis 5'10 205lbs https://247sports.com/Player/Carlos-Davis-46040969

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...iver_index

Both weekend commitments were covered in this article -
https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114336669

USA just added a commitment from an offensive lineman from Moss Point, MS, Wyatt Green. He will either sign in February or be a blueshirt based on what happens with another recruit or two.

https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114370404

Blue shirt players can sign on Signing Day ... just means they can't come on an official visit so they can count forward a class.

(01-29-2018 04:59 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 03:28 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 02:34 PM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  South signs 3* RB Carlos Davis 5'10 205lbs https://247sports.com/Player/Carlos-Davis-46040969

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2018/...iver_index

Both weekend commitments were covered in this article -
https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114336669

USA just added a commitment from an offensive lineman from Moss Point, MS, Wyatt Green. He will either sign in February or be a blueshirt based on what happens with another recruit or two.

https://247sports.com/college/south-alab...-114370404

Blue shirt players can sign on Signing Day ... just means they can't come on an official visit so they can count forward a class.

It's a little more detailed than that. The blueshirt rule pertains to "unrecruited" athletes. As in a player that was not provided an official visit to the campus; Did not have in-person, off-campus contact with a coach; or was sent an NLI or other written scholarship offer. You better hope the coach watched the him play or is outstanding evaluating off film. Of course they could always just offer based on the number of stars. You can't go wrong doing that.



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