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Trump orders 200,000 Salvadorans to leave U.S.
Quote:The Trump administration will end temporary legal immigration status for 200,000 Salvadorans who have been living in the U.S. for nearly two decades, the Department of Homeland Security announced Monday.

Salvadorans who currently have Temporary Protected Status (TPS) must return to their homeland by September 2019 or become undocumented immigrants if they remain without legal protections.

Salvadorans were first granted TPS in 2001 after a pair of devastating earthquakes that killed nearly 1,000 people and destroyed more than 100,000 homes in the Central American country.

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen concluded that El Salvador has rebuilt and recovered enough so the emergency declaration is no longer necessary.

"The substantial disruption of living conditions caused by the earthquake no longer exist," Homeland Security said in a statement.

The decision runs counter to those made by Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, who extended TPS protections for El Salvador every 18 months. Their administrations said the country had not fully recovered from the quakes and also had raging violence from drug cartels that made it impossible for so many people to return to the unstable nation.

The State Department issued a travel warning to U.S. travelers last February about widespread violence throughout that country. "El Salvador has one of the highest homicide levels in the world and crimes such as extortion, assault and robbery are common," the warning said.

Homeland Security said Monday that its decision was based on recovery from the earthquakes and not on the current state of gang violence in El Salvador.

The moves comes after months of lobbying by El Salvador's government, a bipartisan group in Congress and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, all urging Washington to find a way that allows Salvadorans to remain in the United States.

El Salvador's embassy in Washington estimates that 97% of Salvadorans on TPS over age 24 are employed and pay taxes, and more than half own their homes. Salvadorans on TPS have also given birth to 192,000 children, all U.S. citizens, according to the Center for Migration Studies.

"To disregard the contributions that El Salvadorans have made in communities across this country by stamping an expiration date on their lives here is inhumane," said Amanda Baran of the Immigrant Legal Resource Center. "El Salvador is one of the world’s most dangerous countries and will be unable to absorb the return of these thousands of people whose lives are inextricably intertwined with those of ours here in the United States."

The decision pleased immigration groups that advocate for lowers levels of immigration, noting the TPS program, created by Congress in 1990, was a short-term fix abused by repeated extensions.

“By ending the Salvadoran TPS, Secretary Nielsen has taken a major step toward saving the TPS program so it can be used for future emergencies,” Roy Beck, executive director of NumbersUSA, said in a statement. “The past practice of allowing foreign nationals to remain in the United States long after an initial emergency in their home countries has ended has undermined the integrity of the program."

The administration has been phasing out temporary protected status granted by Republican and Democratic administrations to 437,000 people from 10 countries that have suffered armed conflicts, earthquakes and other natural disasters, according to the Congressional Research Service.

In November, Homeland Security announced it was ending TPS for about 59,000 Haitians living legally in the U.S. since the powerful 2010 earthquake decimated the country. They must return home by July 2019.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...012345001/
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If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.
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I don't have a problem with this.

Temporary assistance should not become permanent just because.
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(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.
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You have to go back.
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(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

The point is exactly the same.
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(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

hey, look, personal attacks. 07-coffee3
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(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

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(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

For those with reading comprehension issues, the quote from the article:

The Trump administration will end temporary legal immigration status for 200,000 Salvadorans who have been living in the U.S. for nearly two decades, the Department of Homeland Security announced Monday.

And your stupid mistaken counterpoint validates what I posted. If you have not done the work to become citizens after SEVENTEEN YEARS, then you didnt want to be a citizen. No hurt feelings, the US isnt for everyone. Goodbye, and glad America could help you out until the issues with your country got settled.
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(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

Were they given a path to citizenship?
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(01-08-2018 12:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

For those with reading comprehension issues, the quote from the article:

The Trump administration will end temporary legal immigration status for 200,000 Salvadorans who have been living in the U.S. for nearly two decades, the Department of Homeland Security announced Monday.

And your stupid mistaken counterpoint validates what I posted. If you have not done the work to become citizens after SEVENTEEN YEARS, then you didnt want to be a citizen. No hurt feelings, the US isnt for everyone. Goodbye, and glad America could help you out until the issues with your country got settled.
Nearly 2 decades yes, less than 17 years after the earthquake that happened in 2001.
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(01-08-2018 01:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

Were they given a path to citizenship?

You mean, where they could sit on their ass and be granted amnesty? No.

A path to citizenship? Yes. Just like anyone else. But it would take work.

Also, they may have had a better chance at getting citizenship had Obama not opened up his rape trail to let in so many illegal kids.
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(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

Article was clear about "nearly two decades".

And 2001 to 2019 would be 18 years if you want to be all assy about it. 03-wink
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TPS was just that. Temporary Protected Status.
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(01-08-2018 01:10 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

For those with reading comprehension issues, the quote from the article:

The Trump administration will end temporary legal immigration status for 200,000 Salvadorans who have been living in the U.S. for nearly two decades, the Department of Homeland Security announced Monday.

And your stupid mistaken counterpoint validates what I posted. If you have not done the work to become citizens after SEVENTEEN YEARS, then you didnt want to be a citizen. No hurt feelings, the US isnt for everyone. Goodbye, and glad America could help you out until the issues with your country got settled.
Nearly 2 decades yes, less than 17 years after the earthquake that happened in 2001.

And what's your point??
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(01-08-2018 01:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

Were they given a path to citizenship?

Sounds like Trump has given them a path back to their 3rd world shht hole. Now, DJT-- find a reason to send about 11,000,000 more home.
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(01-08-2018 01:15 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 01:10 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:48 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  If after 2 decades you have not done the work to become citizens, you should go back. There shouldnt be any argument about this.

17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

For those with reading comprehension issues, the quote from the article:

The Trump administration will end temporary legal immigration status for 200,000 Salvadorans who have been living in the U.S. for nearly two decades, the Department of Homeland Security announced Monday.

And your stupid mistaken counterpoint validates what I posted. If you have not done the work to become citizens after SEVENTEEN YEARS, then you didnt want to be a citizen. No hurt feelings, the US isnt for everyone. Goodbye, and glad America could help you out until the issues with your country got settled.
Nearly 2 decades yes, less than 17 years after the earthquake that happened in 2001.

And what's your point??
My point is just as i said in the original post that he gets simple facts wrong, the original claim of 2 decades is demonstratively false.
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So wait. Trump is ending temp status for people that have been here for more than 10 years, and he's a jerk?
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(01-08-2018 01:17 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 01:15 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 01:10 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:59 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(01-08-2018 12:55 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  17 years, 2 decades you're just like Trump with the inability to get simple facts right.

For those with reading comprehension issues, the quote from the article:

The Trump administration will end temporary legal immigration status for 200,000 Salvadorans who have been living in the U.S. for nearly two decades, the Department of Homeland Security announced Monday.

And your stupid mistaken counterpoint validates what I posted. If you have not done the work to become citizens after SEVENTEEN YEARS, then you didnt want to be a citizen. No hurt feelings, the US isnt for everyone. Goodbye, and glad America could help you out until the issues with your country got settled.
Nearly 2 decades yes, less than 17 years after the earthquake that happened in 2001.

And what's your point??
My point is just as i said in the original post that he gets simple facts wrong, the original claim of 2 decades is demonstratively false.

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes.
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