I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

God....SMU didn't even have a complete coaching staff for your game. Didn't even have a full week to prepare. Keep pumping your chest...LOL. Isn't the C-USA the worst league according to the RPI. I haven't looked in a while.

Nobody cares if La. Tech goes FCS where their budget matches up better. I think we have a winning record vs the P6 as a league, btw in bowls.

I'm also not sure why La. Tech is butt hurt? The only reason they got "bumped" up to the awesome C-USA level was the league was completely gutted and replaced with the sunbelt and FCS.

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

USF (8-5) barely lost to the #25 CUSA champion (12-2)
UCONN (6-7) barely lost to Marshall (10-3)
LOL

(01-07-2018 09:45 AM)Limebull Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

USF (8-5) barely lost to the #25 CUSA champion (12-2)
UCONN (6-7) barely lost to Marshall (10-3)
LOL

Let them have fun...For them beating a P6 is like us winning major bowl games (3-0). We beat FIU like 70-10 or something stupid. Their CBs ran a 5.2 like C-USA players do.

I've been tweeting out that Frost came out and said UCF was intentionally kept low by the CFP to avoid playoff controversy and thus we now have a Fake National Title and ending my comment with: #fakenationaltitle


lol

SEC people are still losing their minds


I also started cutting in the whole SEC cheats bit which is just driving people over the edge

I've been carpet bombing UCF Real National Champs on Finebaum and ESPN twitter

(01-07-2018 09:55 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I've been carpet bombing UCF Real National Champs on Finebaum and ESPN twitter

There is also the SEC twitter page. Finebaum is a good one...We already made him lose it this entire week.

College Football Playoff twitter is probably the funniest. They are trying to getting people excited and UCF fans keep trolling.

(01-07-2018 09:45 AM)Limebull Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

USF (8-5) barely lost to the #25 CUSA champion (12-2)
UCONN (6-7) barely lost to Marshall (10-3)
LOL

According to you, Tech (6-6) barely beat 42-3 SMU (7-5)

WKU beat USF 45-35 and was up 38-21 in the 4th, barely my ass LOL

(01-07-2018 10:08 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:45 AM)Limebull Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

USF (8-5) barely lost to the #25 CUSA champion (12-2)
UCONN (6-7) barely lost to Marshall (10-3)
LOL

According to you, Tech (6-6) barely beat 42-3 SMU (7-5)

WKU beat USF 45-35 and was up 38-21 in the 4th, barely my ass LOL

SMU didn't have a coaching staff
(8-5) USF was beating the (12-2) CUSA Champs by 14 points during the game
If you call that an impressive win against the AAC, then
Also, this happened in 2015, when USF was still rebuilding
Seriously the Sunbelt is better than CUSA

(01-07-2018 10:08 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:45 AM)Limebull Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

USF (8-5) barely lost to the #25 CUSA champion (12-2)
UCONN (6-7) barely lost to Marshall (10-3)
LOL

According to you, Tech (6-6) barely beat 42-3 SMU (7-5)

WKU beat USF 45-35 and was up 38-21 in the 4th, barely my ass LOL

Nobody cares about Ruston Tech. Move along. I'm glad you were able to beat a team without a coaching staff. Pretty amazing.

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

Lol 32 and 16, you all aren't on the same level lol. Hell that's a similar record to any other p6 vs g4 over the same time period.

(01-06-2018 10:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 09:55 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 09:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 08:28 PM)fanhood Wrote:  [quote='KNIGHTTIME' pid='14966976' dateline='1515286657']
Danny White is going the route that we are a p6. Nobody is standing up for the g4.

Nonetheless, access will work for us all. We all appreciate it. Will be interesting to see what happens when Danny White heads to South Bend to take the ND job. I hope he still works for better access for the G5.

Thanks. I guess.

I just realize that what Danny White is doing, helps us all.

I just hard Jay Bilas randomly say during the NC State/Duke basketball game, that the Playoff had to go to eight teams, so that the G5 teams could have a chance. Like I said, this helps us all.

in public perception....but in the end when this gets pushed over the edge and they come to Aresco about what needs to be done, he isnt going to bat for the g5 again. he will say the aac needs to get this and that...he will not stand with the other g4, and you know this

someone not named boise from another league has to win something before this becomes a "g5" thing to the decision makers in the back rooms..

what i find funny, is non stop mocking of p6 by g4 fans...but then riding the co-tails of the p6 movement.
the ny6 bowl game auto bid..was made by the aac in an attempt to push our p6 agenda
and now a push for inclusion is being carried by the aac, who are doing so on the narrative of p6...

literally AD's is in the other g4 conferences openly admit they cant compete with the p5 ..your commish doesn't hesitate to say this about mwc teams

So, let me get this straight.....you think that in the end, the AAC gets some sort of automatic, or special access to the NY6, and the MW, Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are left out, or have a separate deal?

(01-07-2018 12:28 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 10:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 09:55 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 09:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 08:28 PM)fanhood Wrote:  [quote='KNIGHTTIME' pid='14966976' dateline='1515286657']
Danny White is going the route that we are a p6. Nobody is standing up for the g4.

Nonetheless, access will work for us all. We all appreciate it. Will be interesting to see what happens when Danny White heads to South Bend to take the ND job. I hope he still works for better access for the G5.

Thanks. I guess.

I just realize that what Danny White is doing, helps us all.

I just hard Jay Bilas randomly say during the NC State/Duke basketball game, that the Playoff had to go to eight teams, so that the G5 teams could have a chance. Like I said, this helps us all.

in public perception....but in the end when this gets pushed over the edge and they come to Aresco about what needs to be done, he isnt going to bat for the g5 again. he will say the aac needs to get this and that...he will not stand with the other g4, and you know this

someone not named boise from another league has to win something before this becomes a "g5" thing to the decision makers in the back rooms..

what i find funny, is non stop mocking of p6 by g4 fans...but then riding the co-tails of the p6 movement.
the ny6 bowl game auto bid..was made by the aac in an attempt to push our p6 agenda
and now a push for inclusion is being carried by the aac, who are doing so on the narrative of p6...

literally AD's is in the other g4 conferences openly admit they cant compete with the p5 ..your commish doesn't hesitate to say this about mwc teams

So, let me get this straight.....you think that in the end, the AAC gets some sort of automatic, or special access to the NY6, and the MW, Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are left out, or have a separate deal?

Go directly to FCS with similar athletes, budgets, and fanbases.

(01-07-2018 12:33 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 12:28 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 10:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 09:55 PM)fanhood Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 09:06 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  Nonetheless, access will work for us all. We all appreciate it. Will be interesting to see what happens when Danny White heads to South Bend to take the ND job. I hope he still works for better access for the G5.

Thanks. I guess.

I just realize that what Danny White is doing, helps us all.

I just hard Jay Bilas randomly say during the NC State/Duke basketball game, that the Playoff had to go to eight teams, so that the G5 teams could have a chance. Like I said, this helps us all.

in public perception....but in the end when this gets pushed over the edge and they come to Aresco about what needs to be done, he isnt going to bat for the g5 again. he will say the aac needs to get this and that...he will not stand with the other g4, and you know this

someone not named boise from another league has to win something before this becomes a "g5" thing to the decision makers in the back rooms..

what i find funny, is non stop mocking of p6 by g4 fans...but then riding the co-tails of the p6 movement.
the ny6 bowl game auto bid..was made by the aac in an attempt to push our p6 agenda
and now a push for inclusion is being carried by the aac, who are doing so on the narrative of p6...

literally AD's is in the other g4 conferences openly admit they cant compete with the p5 ..your commish doesn't hesitate to say this about mwc teams

So, let me get this straight.....you think that in the end, the AAC gets some sort of automatic, or special access to the NY6, and the MW, Sun Belt, MAC, and CUSA are left out, or have a separate deal?

Go directly to FCS with similar athletes, budgets, and fanbases.

Like I said in a previous post. This board is not a microcosm of AAC fan bases. The people here represent the extremist of each. It is why I am here. It is fun.

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

You have completely missed the point. The AAC schools are pumping money and resources into athletics and academics to raise the entire profile of the league. The rest of the G4 is wallowing in self pity and crying that they can't keep up.

Always get a kick out of someone bragging about UCONN Football defeats in the post-2010 era.

(01-07-2018 12:50 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

You have completely missed the point. The AAC schools are pumping money and resources into athletics and academics to raise the entire profile of the league. The rest of the G4 is wallowing in self pity and crying that they can't keep up.

If UCF can get another NYD bowl win they will be tied with BSU for most out of the G5.

(01-07-2018 01:03 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 12:50 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 09:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 08:53 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I'm kind of torn here. On the one hand, if the agenda is creating a P6 and excluding the G4, than that makes us just as bad as the autonomous 5. Everyone in FBS deserves access to the championship in a true playoff. But on the other hand, pesik is spot on. If they openly admit that they can't compete, then they don't really need to be FBS at all.

Their is definitely a difference in athleticism between upper P5 and G5. The AAC athletes are definitely G5 talent, on par with the rest of the G5 and some much below.

Compete might not be the correct verbiage, all within the last couple years:
Tech 42-3 Over SMU
Tech beat the ranked AAC runner-up last year
WKU over Memphis
WKU over USF
Marshall over UConn
and their is more.. a lot more from other conferences. As you can see the bowl teams from the other G5 are better at least on the field than the bowl teams from the AAC

You have completely missed the point. The AAC schools are pumping money and resources into athletics and academics to raise the entire profile of the league. The rest of the G4 is wallowing in self pity and crying that they can't keep up.

If UCF can get another NYD bowl win they will be tied with BSU for most out of the G5.

That’s a fact as stated. IMHO Boise St. Has earned the right to be included in the P-6 conversation.

Frost, again promotes the G5.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21993339

I think he specifically referenced how Stanford at one point jumped UCF, who had lost to a "Group of Five school" as he calls them (SDSU).

Frost putting in work for the G5.