These words were spoken by Trumps de facto Chief of Staff just last year. It’s amazing really. This isn’t some Democrat. This was a man on the inside at the deepest level of government. He was on his NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL for criss sakes. How can any of you mopes dismiss that so easily? This is betrayal of our country at the highest of levels. It makes him especially vulnerable to blackmail but the GOP won’t do ****. They are complicit in treason. This is why I continue to bring up that you guys dismissednpedopholia. There is nothing you guys won’t dismiss. It’s absolutely astonishing the depths of gutters the GOP will crawl through to win. I challenge any of you to tell me what is worse. Pedophila or treason? How can it get worse for our country? Do any of you have a moment of pause. Is there any conscience left in any of you? These are the words of his co chief of staff. He elevated this guy to the highest chambers of the White House. Any way you shake it Trump is unfit for office. Either through his judgements or actions. Also. There is zero chance that Don Jr. did not go up one floor and introduce the Russian spies to Trump. Bannon is positive of it. The Air Force One drafted statement is obstruction of justice. Do we have any honest Gopers left? Anyone who will put their country before party? Devastating developments for our country. Devastating.

This should definitely get him impeached.... bahahahahahahahaha


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I actually truly and genuinely do not understand the point here - it seems like there are some steps in your logic chain that you're assuming are pretty obvious, but I'm honestly not seeing them and could use some explanation.

Can you help me understand how Bannon was a alt-right Nazi who should be punched in the face a year ago, but today he's a real American hero of unimpeachable reputation?

(01-04-2018 07:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How can any of you <insult> dismiss that so easily?

Because Bannon was a clown and I'm not huge on trump but he wsa a better alternative than someone who sold russia 20% of our Uranium so her husband could make bank on speeches.

Another Mach thread on the same topic. It’s almost like he does this to flush other threads off the front page.

Once again Mach shows us he has zero understanding about what legally constitutes treason.

(01-04-2018 07:33 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  These words were spoken by Trumps de facto Chief of Staff just last year. It’s amazing really. This isn’t some Democrat. This was a man on the inside at the deepest level of government. He was on his NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL for criss sakes. How can any of you mopes dismiss that so easily? This is betrayal of our country at the highest of levels. It makes him especially vulnerable to blackmail but the GOP won’t do ****. They are complicit in treason. This is why I continue to bring up that you guys dismissednpedopholia. There is nothing you guys won’t dismiss. It’s absolutely astonishing the depths of gutters the GOP will crawl through to win. I challenge any of you to tell me what is worse. Pedophila or treason? How can it get worse for our country? Do any of you have a moment of pause. Is there any conscience left in any of you? These are the words of his co chief of staff. He elevated this guy to the highest chambers of the White House. Any way you shake it Trump is unfit for office. Either through his judgements or actions. Also. There is zero chance that Don Jr. did not go up one floor and introduce the Russian spies to Trump. Bannon is positive of it. The Air Force One drafted statement is obstruction of justice. Do we have any honest Gopers left? Anyone who will put their country before party? Devastating developments for our country. Devastating.

Look up the definition of treason and explain where this establishes the required elements.

He can't. It just FEELS like treason to him because he wants so much for that to be true. Reason and rationality have been lost, unfortunately.

Bannon is just selling books.

My bottom line--I think it is highly likely that the Trump campaign, Bannon, Hillary, and Huma all either broke the law or at least bent it. But that's based on rumor, except there are facts to support that with Hillary and Huma.

Buy on fact, sell on rumor. I don't buy on rumor.

(01-04-2018 08:28 PM)Claw Wrote:  Bannon is just selling books.

My thoughts exactly.

These are Bannons words not mine.


Btw- this right wing talking point to look up the definition of treason.

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

The bolded part fits Don Jr. to a T...... now please stop with the nonsense..

Now back to Bannon
One of two things

1. He’s right.




2. Trump is unfit for office because he elevated this guy to his chief of staff. He was on the National Security Council. Within a year the guy is writing this book?




The other delicious part of this is Wolff was BROUGHT IN . They actually gave this guy unfettered access thinking it would help him!!!!!!!!! Dysfunctional to the last. Amazing that known of you can see that. That you guys bring in Hilary and Huma is beyond the pale. Unbelievable the myopia around here. Can’t see past the Clinton’s when this train wreck of a Presidency is staring at you in the face.



Also.... any attempt to bring the Clinton’s into this discussion will be seen by the author as a blatant attempt to derail the thread. I would appreciate it if you would start another thread. Clinton’s campaign can be brought up in a separate thread. The lie about the 20% uranium sales has been debunked numerous times on here. Please keep it separate.

Not Treason Mach. I have no doubt some laws have been broken..but..not Treason. In any rate...Ill bet you that nothing ever comes of any of this anyway.

Aid and comfort....... yes they did

(01-04-2018 09:29 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Not Treason Mach. I have no doubt some laws have been broken..but..not Treason. In any rate...Ill bet you that nothing ever comes of any of this anyway.

I don't think any laws were broken by meeting with anyone.

Without a doubt obstruction of justice can be proven. We can’t prove treason. The opinion of Trumos co chief of staff should hold some weight though. We can without a shadow of a doubt prove obstruction.

We are at war with Russia?


If so then to show you aren't a partisan hack you should immediately start a thread calling for the arrests of Obama, Clinton, Timothy Geithner, Robert Gates, Eric Holder, Gary Locke, Steven Chu, and Janet Napolitano for providing material support to our enemy by approving the Uranium One sale.

So now the Left thinks Bannon is honest and forthright.
I thought they thought he was the Devil.

(01-04-2018 09:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Aid and comfort....... yes they did

Good luck to anyone proving that even is true...and Im highly skeptical at his point of any of this stuff. There is simply way too much political infighting and pure hatred floating around for me to buy into much of this stuff from either gang at this juncture.

(01-04-2018 09:35 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Without a doubt obstruction of justice can be proven. We can’t prove treason. The opinion of Trumos co chief of staff should hold some weight though. We can without a shadow of a doubt prove obstruction.

Shadow of a doubt? ....