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RE: A MACTION Weekend
(01-01-2018 06:04 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 08:30 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  To put the icing on the awful bowl season, B1G about ready to go undefeated in their season. Although I think every Big Ten team was the higher ranked or favorite going into their matchup (or at least the vast majority).

Take heart. You spoke too soon. Coach Harbugh failed to earn his $9 million dollar salary this year as he presided over one of the all time classic second half meltdown/choke games of the year (if not the decade) and sent the B1G spiraling down to a mere 7-1 bowl record. In the meantime former MAC member UCF who left the MAC with their tail between their legs going winless in conference play their last year in the MAC just capped off a 13-0 season with a New Year's Day win over top 10 Auburn and should finish high in the top ten with a legitimate argument that they should have been given a shot at the playoff for the National Championship. Anyway hopefully people will keep their year in mind for future reference because they just showed us what a real G5 access bowl team ideally looks like.

Ohio State was rightly knocked out of the play offs due to their bad loss against Iowa, but UCF's case shows that the playoff system needs to be expanded.

Time to use all the NY6 bowls and expand the play off system to 8 teams. Keep the current system for the two semifinal games rotating NY6 bowls every year and use the remaining four NY6 bowls to host quarterfinal games. Then give the P5 Conference Champions automatic bids, then two at-large spots for the next two highest ranking schools P5 or otherwise, and finally reserve the 8th spot for the highest ranking G5 Conference school. If you don't give the G5 schools a shot at the national title, you might as well split the FBS into two divisions and have two title games because it makes no sense that G5 schools don't even get a chance otherwise.
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RE: A MACTION Weekend
(01-01-2018 09:33 PM)bobcatgrad Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 06:04 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 08:30 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  To put the icing on the awful bowl season, B1G about ready to go undefeated in their season. Although I think every Big Ten team was the higher ranked or favorite going into their matchup (or at least the vast majority).

Take heart. You spoke too soon. Coach Harbugh failed to earn his $9 million dollar salary this year as he presided over one of the all time classic second half meltdown/choke games of the year (if not the decade) and sent the B1G spiraling down to a mere 7-1 bowl record. In the meantime former MAC member UCF who left the MAC with their tail between their legs going winless in conference play their last year in the MAC just capped off a 13-0 season with a New Year's Day win over top 10 Auburn and should finish high in the top ten with a legitimate argument that they should have been given a shot at the playoff for the National Championship. Anyway hopefully people will keep their year in mind for future reference because they just showed us what a real G5 access bowl team ideally looks like.

Ohio State was rightly knocked out of the play offs due to their bad loss against Iowa, but UCF's case shows that the playoff system needs to be expanded.

Time to use all the NY6 bowls and expand the play off system to 8 teams. Keep the current system for the two semifinal games rotating NY6 bowls every year and use the remaining four NY6 bowls to host quarterfinal games. Then give the P5 Conference Champions automatic bids, then two at-large spots for the next two highest ranking schools P5 or otherwise, and finally reserve the 8th spot for the highest ranking G5 Conference school. If you don't give the G5 schools a shot at the national title, you might as well split the FBS into two divisions and have two title games because it makes no sense that G5 schools don't even get a chance otherwise.

I agree.

Or maybe, 6 team, playoffs.

Top two get byes and the next 4 play to advance. A little like what we see in the men's basketball tourney. Those games could be played around Dec 20 (that weekend.

I'd go with 5 P5 conference champs + the one G5 or independent.

Pretty simple: You MUST win your CONFERENCE or you are not chosen.

I agree UCF deserved a chance to play on and IF they won the play-in game they'd got to play one of the top two seeds.

That would be really, really good for ALL in FBS football. Chance to produce a real Cinderella to make the 'Final Four' in CFB.

P.S. Will anyone in California, Washington, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, Pennsylvania, etc. want to watch Alabama vs. Georgia, two SEC teams? I won't bother to watch a SEC match-up.
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RE: A MACTION Weekend
(01-02-2018 07:46 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 09:33 PM)bobcatgrad Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 06:04 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 08:30 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  To put the icing on the awful bowl season, B1G about ready to go undefeated in their season. Although I think every Big Ten team was the higher ranked or favorite going into their matchup (or at least the vast majority).

Take heart. You spoke too soon. Coach Harbugh failed to earn his $9 million dollar salary this year as he presided over one of the all time classic second half meltdown/choke games of the year (if not the decade) and sent the B1G spiraling down to a mere 7-1 bowl record. In the meantime former MAC member UCF who left the MAC with their tail between their legs going winless in conference play their last year in the MAC just capped off a 13-0 season with a New Year's Day win over top 10 Auburn and should finish high in the top ten with a legitimate argument that they should have been given a shot at the playoff for the National Championship. Anyway hopefully people will keep their year in mind for future reference because they just showed us what a real G5 access bowl team ideally looks like.

Ohio State was rightly knocked out of the play offs due to their bad loss against Iowa, but UCF's case shows that the playoff system needs to be expanded.

Time to use all the NY6 bowls and expand the play off system to 8 teams. Keep the current system for the two semifinal games rotating NY6 bowls every year and use the remaining four NY6 bowls to host quarterfinal games. Then give the P5 Conference Champions automatic bids, then two at-large spots for the next two highest ranking schools P5 or otherwise, and finally reserve the 8th spot for the highest ranking G5 Conference school. If you don't give the G5 schools a shot at the national title, you might as well split the FBS into two divisions and have two title games because it makes no sense that G5 schools don't even get a chance otherwise.

I agree.

Or maybe, 6 team, playoffs.

Top two get byes and the next 4 play to advance. A little like what we see in the men's basketball tourney. Those games could be played around Dec 20 (that weekend.

I'd go with 5 P5 conference champs + the one G5 or independent.

Pretty simple: You MUST win your CONFERENCE or you are not chosen.

I agree UCF deserved a chance to play on and IF they won the play-in game they'd got to play one of the top two seeds.

That would be really, really good for ALL in FBS football. Chance to produce a real Cinderella to make the 'Final Four' in CFB.

P.S. Will anyone in California, Washington, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, Pennsylvania, etc. want to watch Alabama vs. Georgia, two SEC teams? I won't bother to watch a SEC match-up.

Texas A&M is in SEC. The Tide has at least a dozen players from Texas on their roster. so I think you can cross Texas off that list. You can figure a number of Toledo fans will watching since Saban is a former Rocket HC. Same with some OSU fans, because they have benefited from the Championship Playoff system. I think once they totally separate G5 from P5. they will go for an expanded playoff system.
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RE: A MACTION Weekend
(01-02-2018 09:25 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(01-02-2018 07:46 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 09:33 PM)bobcatgrad Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 06:04 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(01-01-2018 08:30 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  To put the icing on the awful bowl season, B1G about ready to go undefeated in their season. Although I think every Big Ten team was the higher ranked or favorite going into their matchup (or at least the vast majority).

Take heart. You spoke too soon. Coach Harbugh failed to earn his $9 million dollar salary this year as he presided over one of the all time classic second half meltdown/choke games of the year (if not the decade) and sent the B1G spiraling down to a mere 7-1 bowl record. In the meantime former MAC member UCF who left the MAC with their tail between their legs going winless in conference play their last year in the MAC just capped off a 13-0 season with a New Year's Day win over top 10 Auburn and should finish high in the top ten with a legitimate argument that they should have been given a shot at the playoff for the National Championship. Anyway hopefully people will keep their year in mind for future reference because they just showed us what a real G5 access bowl team ideally looks like.

Ohio State was rightly knocked out of the play offs due to their bad loss against Iowa, but UCF's case shows that the playoff system needs to be expanded.

Time to use all the NY6 bowls and expand the play off system to 8 teams. Keep the current system for the two semifinal games rotating NY6 bowls every year and use the remaining four NY6 bowls to host quarterfinal games. Then give the P5 Conference Champions automatic bids, then two at-large spots for the next two highest ranking schools P5 or otherwise, and finally reserve the 8th spot for the highest ranking G5 Conference school. If you don't give the G5 schools a shot at the national title, you might as well split the FBS into two divisions and have two title games because it makes no sense that G5 schools don't even get a chance otherwise.

I agree.

Or maybe, 6 team, playoffs.

Top two get byes and the next 4 play to advance. A little like what we see in the men's basketball tourney. Those games could be played around Dec 20 (that weekend.

I'd go with 5 P5 conference champs + the one G5 or independent.

Pretty simple: You MUST win your CONFERENCE or you are not chosen.

I agree UCF deserved a chance to play on and IF they won the play-in game they'd got to play one of the top two seeds.

That would be really, really good for ALL in FBS football. Chance to produce a real Cinderella to make the 'Final Four' in CFB.

P.S. Will anyone in California, Washington, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, Pennsylvania, etc. want to watch Alabama vs. Georgia, two SEC teams? I won't bother to watch a SEC match-up.

Texas A&M is in SEC. The Tide has at least a dozen players from Texas on their roster. so I think you can cross Texas off that list. You can figure a number of Toledo fans will watching since Saban is a former Rocket HC. Same with some OSU fans, because they have benefited from the Championship Playoff system. I think once they totally separate G5 from P5. they will go for an expanded playoff system.

In order for most of these difference scenarios to work, without overloading the 'student-athlete' is to get rid of the conference championship games ... no divisions in conferences ... and one less non-conference game (to open up one more conference game) ... then play ball.
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RE: A MACTION Weekend
The contracts are signed for the 4-team playoff for 5?-6? years yet, so there’s lots of time to figure out how the P5 will exclude everyone else.
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(01-02-2018 10:38 AM)axeme Wrote:  The contracts are signed for the 4-team playoff for 5?-6? years yet, so there’s lots of time to figure out how the P5 will exclude everyone else.

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(01-02-2018 10:38 AM)axeme Wrote:  The contracts are signed for the 4-team playoff for 5?-6? years yet, so there’s lots of time to figure out how the P5 will exclude everyone else.

I'm just curious if anyone woke up this morning with a bah humbug, two SEC teams from ADJACENT states playing for the National Championship.

I would rather refer to it is as Southeastern States of America Regional Championship Game, 2018.

Of course, if Auburn had been in it (instead of Georgia), we could have the Alabama State Collegiate Championship Game, 2018.

BTW, lest I be wrong, didn't every game yesterday, Jan 1, 2018, feature a SEC team??? I'm sure fans in L.A., S.F., Seattle, Vegas, etc. watched with baited breathe...
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I watched the UCF game but had no interest in the "playoff" games.
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