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(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.

HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us
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East has been the stronger division every single year so far.
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That's because the Texas schools have struggled in both football and basketball in CUSA 3.0 and they make up over half of the West.

If FAU and FIU hadn't gotten new football coaches this year then the conference would've been way worse off. Would be nice to see them do a similar turn around in basketball.

We need Charlotte, UTEP, and Rice to pick it up in football. Maybe have one other top heavy team next year like FAU. Hopefully Marshall see improvement in the offense and maybe WKU will get out of its slump.

UAB, USM, UTEP, and Charlotte need to pick it up in basketball OOC. Those four schools going into conference play with RPI of 244, 220, 273, and 291 is unacceptable, though at least USM is trending back up. All have the resources to be 150 or better even when struggling. Rice really shouldn't be at 304 either. Top 200 for Rice isn't asking too much considering

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(12-27-2017 08:59 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.

HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us

You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!
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RE: CUSA Football East>>>>>West
(12-27-2017 10:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 08:59 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.

HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us

You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!

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I'm not sure if you can take a year or two and call it a trend.
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Unsportsmanlike on a First down wave that every player does is pretty bs.
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(12-27-2017 10:44 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  I'm not sure if you can take a year or two and call it a trend.

By your estimation, what was the last year the west was better?
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Yes, the results would agree that this year East was a stronger division than West. No surprise that the splashy head coach hires were in the East.
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(12-27-2017 11:13 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 10:44 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  I'm not sure if you can take a year or two and call it a trend.

By your estimation, what was the last year the west was better?

He was referring to a comment by someone about USM basketball was improving.
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(12-27-2017 10:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 08:59 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.

HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us

You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!
And you still scored a TD on that WR unsportsmanlike. Then the other unsportsmanlike what offset by a UAB unsportsmanlike penalty. Another personal foul was offset by a UAB personal foul.

It's like you can't imagine that just maybe UAB players got into La. Tech players' heads a bit or the probability that your players made some stupid mistakes. We were flagged more against UNT, UTSA, MTSU, and USM than they were against us. Clearly they were protecting UAB....for some unknown reason only La. Tech fans know about.

You lost because your FG got blocked and you let a freshman RB average 6.4 yards a carry for 172 yards. You also gave up nearly a 50 yard punt return to Andre Wilson that resulted in an easy TD. Wasn't penalties.

We nearly lost because our kicker couldn't hit multiple 40+ yd FGs that day and missed a PAT. We also had some dumb penalties too. The reality is that you were lucky to only be down 6 points going into the 2nd half.

Not to mention, you guys had USM and UNT at home, you were penalized less, and you still lost both games. I don't see how anyone could think any school in this conference is protected.

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(12-28-2017 03:26 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 10:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 08:59 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.

HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us

You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!
And you still scored a TD on that WR unsportsmanlike. Then the other unsportsmanlike what offset by a UAB unsportsmanlike penalty. Another personal foul was offset by a UAB personal foul.

It's like you can't imagine that just maybe UAB players got into La. Tech players' heads a bit or the probability that your players made some stupid mistakes. We were flagged more against UNT, UTSA, MTSU, and USM than they were against us. Clearly they were protecting UAB....for some unknown reason only La. Tech fans know about.

You lost because your FG got blocked and you let a freshman RB average 6.4 yards a carry for 172 yards. You also gave up nearly a 50 yard punt return to Andre Wilson that resulted in an easy TD. Wasn't penalties.

We nearly lost because our kicker couldn't hit multiple 40+ yd FGs that day and missed a PAT. We also had some dumb penalties too. The reality is that you were lucky to only be down 6 points going into the 2nd half.

Not to mention, you guys had USM and UNT at home, you were penalized less, and you still lost both games. I don't see how anyone could think any school in this conference is protected.

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I don't have a problem with the criticism of LA Tech's poor play that day. I've been critical of Tech myself. I even said so in the first paragraph of my post about this subject. God knows, Tech missed two PAT's and two chip shot FG's (counting the last second block) that day. Yep, our ST's sucked donkey's that day.

But all that said, there's no doubt that LA Tech was cheated when it came to officiating in Birmingham. Tech didn't just walk into your stadium and suddenly become a 10 penalty team after averaging only 3 penalties a game prior. And the chicken sheeet personal foul calls are something that are totally subjective and in this case, biased.

I've watched at least 15 college football players stand up and signal a "1st down" wave this fall, and not a single one of them received a personal foul penalty that wiped out the team's gain on the play and cost their team 15 yards to boot. So in Tech's case, it amounted to a 31-yd penalty, and killed a good drive. That's the kind of nonsense that needs to stop in CUSA. And this kind of protectionism caught up with UAB in its' bowl game, where it was quickly exposed.

This game was close. Very close. So very poor officiating matters. CUSA will remain petty and small until they fix this kind of officiating.
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(12-28-2017 11:19 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 03:26 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 10:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 08:59 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.

HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us

You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!
And you still scored a TD on that WR unsportsmanlike. Then the other unsportsmanlike what offset by a UAB unsportsmanlike penalty. Another personal foul was offset by a UAB personal foul.

It's like you can't imagine that just maybe UAB players got into La. Tech players' heads a bit or the probability that your players made some stupid mistakes. We were flagged more against UNT, UTSA, MTSU, and USM than they were against us. Clearly they were protecting UAB....for some unknown reason only La. Tech fans know about.

You lost because your FG got blocked and you let a freshman RB average 6.4 yards a carry for 172 yards. You also gave up nearly a 50 yard punt return to Andre Wilson that resulted in an easy TD. Wasn't penalties.

We nearly lost because our kicker couldn't hit multiple 40+ yd FGs that day and missed a PAT. We also had some dumb penalties too. The reality is that you were lucky to only be down 6 points going into the 2nd half.

Not to mention, you guys had USM and UNT at home, you were penalized less, and you still lost both games. I don't see how anyone could think any school in this conference is protected.

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I don't have a problem with the criticism of LA Tech's poor play that day. I've been critical of Tech myself. I even said so in the first paragraph of my post about this subject. God knows, Tech missed two PAT's and two chip shot FG's (counting the last second block) that day. Yep, our ST's sucked donkey's that day.

But all that said, there's no doubt that LA Tech was cheated when it came to officiating in Birmingham. Tech didn't just walk into your stadium and suddenly become a 10 penalty team after averaging only 3 penalties a game prior. And the chicken sheeet personal foul calls are something that are totally subjective and in this case, biased.

I've watched at least 15 college football players stand up and signal a "1st down" wave this fall, and not a single one of them received a personal foul penalty that wiped out the team's gain on the play and cost their team 15 yards to boot. So in Tech's case, it amounted to a 31-yd penalty, and killed a good drive. That's the kind of nonsense that needs to stop in CUSA. And this kind of protectionism caught up with UAB in its' bowl game, where it was quickly exposed.

This game was close. Very close. So very poor officiating matters. CUSA will remain petty and small until they fix this kind of officiating.
Im assuming you're referring to the LT drive late in the 3rd qtr/early 4th qtr. McKnight got the taunting penalty after he scored a TD and it did not negate any yardage. It wasn't a "1st down" play. You still scored the TD, but it pushed the PAT back and your kicker missed it. You don't remember the game correctly so take a second and look it up on espn or something

You're trying to argue that UAB gets protected in this conference and yet LT was the only team that got penalized more than us out of yourselves, UTSA, USM, UNT, and MTSU (i.e. every bowl eligible CUSA team we played).

Your argument doesn't work out. Maybe there were some bad calls in the game. It is college sports and bad calls happen every day. But you didn't get "cheated" by some conspiracy to protect UAB. That's a joke






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(12-28-2017 11:55 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:19 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 03:26 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 10:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 08:59 PM)winston70 Wrote:  HD - All we had to do was block UAB for chip shot FG at the end of the game for the W... That one was on us

You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!
And you still scored a TD on that WR unsportsmanlike. Then the other unsportsmanlike what offset by a UAB unsportsmanlike penalty. Another personal foul was offset by a UAB personal foul.

It's like you can't imagine that just maybe UAB players got into La. Tech players' heads a bit or the probability that your players made some stupid mistakes. We were flagged more against UNT, UTSA, MTSU, and USM than they were against us. Clearly they were protecting UAB....for some unknown reason only La. Tech fans know about.

You lost because your FG got blocked and you let a freshman RB average 6.4 yards a carry for 172 yards. You also gave up nearly a 50 yard punt return to Andre Wilson that resulted in an easy TD. Wasn't penalties.

We nearly lost because our kicker couldn't hit multiple 40+ yd FGs that day and missed a PAT. We also had some dumb penalties too. The reality is that you were lucky to only be down 6 points going into the 2nd half.

Not to mention, you guys had USM and UNT at home, you were penalized less, and you still lost both games. I don't see how anyone could think any school in this conference is protected.

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I don't have a problem with the criticism of LA Tech's poor play that day. I've been critical of Tech myself. I even said so in the first paragraph of my post about this subject. God knows, Tech missed two PAT's and two chip shot FG's (counting the last second block) that day. Yep, our ST's sucked donkey's that day.

But all that said, there's no doubt that LA Tech was cheated when it came to officiating in Birmingham. Tech didn't just walk into your stadium and suddenly become a 10 penalty team after averaging only 3 penalties a game prior. And the chicken sheeet personal foul calls are something that are totally subjective and in this case, biased.

I've watched at least 15 college football players stand up and signal a "1st down" wave this fall, and not a single one of them received a personal foul penalty that wiped out the team's gain on the play and cost their team 15 yards to boot. So in Tech's case, it amounted to a 31-yd penalty, and killed a good drive. That's the kind of nonsense that needs to stop in CUSA. And this kind of protectionism caught up with UAB in its' bowl game, where it was quickly exposed.

This game was close. Very close. So very poor officiating matters. CUSA will remain petty and small until they fix this kind of officiating.
Im assuming you're referring to the LT drive late in the 3rd qtr/early 4th qtr. McKnight got the taunting penalty after he scored a TD and it did not negate any yardage. It wasn't a "1st down" play. You still scored the TD, but it pushed the PAT back and your kicker missed it. You don't remember the game correctly so take a second and look it up on espn or something

You're trying to argue that UAB gets protected in this conference and yet LT was the only team that got penalized more than us out of yourselves, UTSA, USM, UNT, and MTSU (i.e. every bowl eligible CUSA team we played).

Your argument doesn't work out. Maybe there were some bad calls in the game. It is college sports and bad calls happen every day. But you didn't get "cheated" by some conspiracy to protect UAB. That's a joke

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Actually, my argument makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense that a team (UAB) that fielded a bunch of players who literally hadn't played a football game before this season in 2 or 3 years would be more likely to commit more penalties than most of the teams they played in their first season back, particularly early in the season. I don't know why you wouldn't expect that?

But instead of calling the game fairly, it seemed as though we witnessed an attempt by CUSA officials to "balance" the number of calls. An attitude that said, "If UAB is gonna be penalized, we have to penalize the other guys too..."

In the end, it really didn't matter, as UAB was exposed and looked terrible in their bowl game anyway.
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RE: CUSA Football East>>>>>West
(12-28-2017 03:02 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:55 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 11:19 AM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-28-2017 03:26 AM)Shrack Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 10:27 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  You are correct that that single PLAY (the failed kick) was on us. That play --as well as many other bone headed plays that day-- were on LA Tech. But Tech was outright cheated in that game like I've rarely if ever seen.

LA Tech received 4 Personal fouls and a bogus Targeting call that day. Those are game changers.

LA Tech also received an unsportsmanlike conduct call for having a WR signal "1st Down" with his arm after making a great catch for a big 1st down. Not only did the officials nullify the 1st down, Tech was penalized 15-yds for something I see college players do every single week. I saw an SMU player do the exact same thing last week in a game against us. That was a BS call in Birmingham.

Or how about with 6:22 left in the 3rd Qtr, on 3rd and 6, LA Tech completes a 26-yd pass to McKnight for a 1st down at the UAB 40. Suddenly, a little yellow flag comes out LATE, and Tech gets called for "ineligible downfield". The ball was ultimately backed up to the LA Tech 29-yd line. That was essentially a 31-yd penalty against Tech.

And don't forget the LA Tech DB who was kicked out of the game for "Targeting", when it really wasn't! Not only did he miss the rest of the UAB game, but he was forced to sit out the 1st half of the following game against USM.

These are just a few simple examples that scratch the surface. There were also numerous "bad spots", missed holding calls and missed pass interference calls by the refs in that game. Protectionism at its finest. Well, this "Protectionism" came home to roost when UAB went to a bowl game and was BLOWN OUT!
And you still scored a TD on that WR unsportsmanlike. Then the other unsportsmanlike what offset by a UAB unsportsmanlike penalty. Another personal foul was offset by a UAB personal foul.

It's like you can't imagine that just maybe UAB players got into La. Tech players' heads a bit or the probability that your players made some stupid mistakes. We were flagged more against UNT, UTSA, MTSU, and USM than they were against us. Clearly they were protecting UAB....for some unknown reason only La. Tech fans know about.

You lost because your FG got blocked and you let a freshman RB average 6.4 yards a carry for 172 yards. You also gave up nearly a 50 yard punt return to Andre Wilson that resulted in an easy TD. Wasn't penalties.

We nearly lost because our kicker couldn't hit multiple 40+ yd FGs that day and missed a PAT. We also had some dumb penalties too. The reality is that you were lucky to only be down 6 points going into the 2nd half.

Not to mention, you guys had USM and UNT at home, you were penalized less, and you still lost both games. I don't see how anyone could think any school in this conference is protected.

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I don't have a problem with the criticism of LA Tech's poor play that day. I've been critical of Tech myself. I even said so in the first paragraph of my post about this subject. God knows, Tech missed two PAT's and two chip shot FG's (counting the last second block) that day. Yep, our ST's sucked donkey's that day.

But all that said, there's no doubt that LA Tech was cheated when it came to officiating in Birmingham. Tech didn't just walk into your stadium and suddenly become a 10 penalty team after averaging only 3 penalties a game prior. And the chicken sheeet personal foul calls are something that are totally subjective and in this case, biased.

I've watched at least 15 college football players stand up and signal a "1st down" wave this fall, and not a single one of them received a personal foul penalty that wiped out the team's gain on the play and cost their team 15 yards to boot. So in Tech's case, it amounted to a 31-yd penalty, and killed a good drive. That's the kind of nonsense that needs to stop in CUSA. And this kind of protectionism caught up with UAB in its' bowl game, where it was quickly exposed.

This game was close. Very close. So very poor officiating matters. CUSA will remain petty and small until they fix this kind of officiating.
Im assuming you're referring to the LT drive late in the 3rd qtr/early 4th qtr. McKnight got the taunting penalty after he scored a TD and it did not negate any yardage. It wasn't a "1st down" play. You still scored the TD, but it pushed the PAT back and your kicker missed it. You don't remember the game correctly so take a second and look it up on espn or something

You're trying to argue that UAB gets protected in this conference and yet LT was the only team that got penalized more than us out of yourselves, UTSA, USM, UNT, and MTSU (i.e. every bowl eligible CUSA team we played).

Your argument doesn't work out. Maybe there were some bad calls in the game. It is college sports and bad calls happen every day. But you didn't get "cheated" by some conspiracy to protect UAB. That's a joke

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Actually, my argument makes perfect sense. It makes perfect sense that a team (UAB) that fielded a bunch of players who literally hadn't played a football game before this season in 2 or 3 years would be more likely to commit more penalties than most of the teams they played in their first season back, particularly early in the season. I don't know why you wouldn't expect that?

But instead of calling the game fairly, it seemed as though we witnessed an attempt by CUSA officials to "balance" the number of calls. An attitude that said, "If UAB is gonna be penalized, we have to penalize the other guys too..."

In the end, it really didn't matter, as UAB was exposed and looked terrible in their bowl game anyway.
Or we witnessed La. Tech having another bad game for the year where they couldn't pull out a close one again. I know it's just crazy to consider that you just lost the game


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And next years FAU and Marshall teams look to be monsters.

2019 could be our first G5 rep for a major bowl. Both FAU and Marshall return so much.
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Plus the fact that UAB jut didn't sit idly by for two years watching reruns of Married With Children and eating popcorn and bon bons. They lifted, they conditioned, they practiced, they scrimmaged. So no, they very well could have kept their discipline and not have committed as many penalties.
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(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.
its been my opinion that the texas schools get protected by our crews
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RE: CUSA Football East>>>>>West
(12-29-2017 05:58 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:51 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 07:47 PM)Noodles Wrote:  Hog, that's some stupidity.
Are you drunk, or just retarded?


I knew THAT post would get a rise out of a few of you guys! 03-lmfao

But --in my OPINION-- it's very true. I've never seen a game as poorly officiated as the Tech-UAB game this past season. Just criminal. And in the long run, it doesn't do CUSA any good come bowl time.....as we have now WITNESSED for ourselves.
its been my opinion that the texas schools get protected by our crews

It’s my opinion you should shut your mouth. 05-mafia07-coffee3
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Clearly the reason we lost at UAB was because we were their super bowl game 04-cheers
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