(12-17-2017 08:11 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Look, if you people don't like what 1983 has to say, put him on ignore

He is right. He posts about the Tigers and a lot of you post about him.

The focus of this board is the Memphis Tigers....not memphistigers.org posters and Tiger fans.

It's childish the way some of you act. Stop being so damned sensitive.

Who is sensitive? Just come up with some new material.

(12-17-2017 09:33 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 08:11 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Look, if you people don't like what 1983 has to say, put him on ignore

He is right. He posts about the Tigers and a lot of you post about him.

The focus of this board is the Memphis Tigers....not memphistigers.org posters and Tiger fans.

It's childish the way some of you act. Stop being so damned sensitive.

Who is sensitive? Just come up with some new material.

Tell Tubby.

(12-17-2017 09:11 PM)bcspiker Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 12:03 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 11:46 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 11:41 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:48 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  I think we can all be happy about one thing: Josh Pastner ain't walkin' through that door.

Agree, the problem is Tubby is here now.

And absolutely...

Let's define it further, then. The problem isn't Tubby's coaching. He's getting more out of the players on the floor than Pastner ever dreamed of, and maybe more than Calipari did. The problem is that he refuses to hire assistants who can recruit at the level we need. If he had Memphis caliber players and coached them up the way he is these guys, hell, we'd be a top ten team. But that would mean his kid would be unemployed.

I love these players right now and I'm proud of how hard they try. It's not their fault that they are who they are, and all I can ask is they give 100%, which they're doing. For their sake I really hope we make the post season. Jeremiah Martin is awesome.

He actually has hired a recruiter of the level you speak of ... You will just have to wait till next season to see him in action.

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Pierre will not be here next year

The only reason he is working for Tub is because of the restrictions. If not for that he would have never came here.

(12-17-2017 07:41 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 11:54 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 09:36 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-16-2017 05:18 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Did not your Mom teach you to ask politely?

Based on one game today, my guess is WSU, Cincy, SMU, Temple, and UCF (assuming they had BJ Taylor). Overall, we are about the 9th or 10th best team in the AAC based on KenPom and ESPN RPI as of this writing.

Now, a question for you. Are you satisfied with a nine point loss to Louisville? Answer the question.

So you use Kenpom as a reliable source of information to say the tigers suck BUT you don't use Kenpom to judge Louisville which lists Temple at 58 and UCF at 77 while Louisville is ranked 28

My post clearly states that UCF could only beat Louisville on that given day with BJ Taylor. He is not present, so UCF is excluded.

Yes, I think Temple would have beaten Louisville for that game. The difference between 58 and 28 is 30. The difference between 153 (what is is today) and 28 is 125.

I respect your opinion that a nine point defeat is a good, but I do not share it. IMO, it is a shame that we have reached the point that a margin of 9 points is considered close and a moral victory.

So your assertion is that Louisville is overrated in Kenpom due to that game...

But your mind cannot even comprehend that MAYBE Memphis is underrated...But it is likely you are just trying to promote your agenda.

And has anyone said anything about a moral victory...It is an affect of watching a team play better than they have which is promising. As long as the team is improving I think most will feel better about the team.

I do not think Louisville is overrated. I think a number of AAC schools could have beaten Louisville on Saturday based on the way Louisville played on Saturday. My opinion is not an indictment of Louisville (they are a very good team), but rather a complement of our AAC mates.

I understand the existence of the concept that we are underrated, but I do not accept it based on the totality of results to date (e.g., struggling with Mercer, Samford, etc..). I believe it is more likely that we played over our heads like teams use to do against us when we were relevant. Finally, I think the team will improve with experience, but not sufficiently to ensure a post-season berth mentioned by Tubby.

I am not here to tell folks how they should feel about a nine point loss. I am only expressing how I feel about it.

So your assertion is Louisville played poorly...Yet they hit 14 3 pointer, shot 50+% from the 3, blocked 14 shots, shot 90+% from the FT line and only turned the ball over 11 times.

What did Louisville do poorly?

Or is everything you say based on Memphis sucks so if Memphis hung with them Louisville must not have played well.

(12-17-2017 10:02 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:41 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 11:54 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 09:36 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  So you use Kenpom as a reliable source of information to say the tigers suck BUT you don't use Kenpom to judge Louisville which lists Temple at 58 and UCF at 77 while Louisville is ranked 28

My post clearly states that UCF could only beat Louisville on that given day with BJ Taylor. He is not present, so UCF is excluded.

Yes, I think Temple would have beaten Louisville for that game. The difference between 58 and 28 is 30. The difference between 153 (what is is today) and 28 is 125.

I respect your opinion that a nine point defeat is a good, but I do not share it. IMO, it is a shame that we have reached the point that a margin of 9 points is considered close and a moral victory.

So your assertion is that Louisville is overrated in Kenpom due to that game...

But your mind cannot even comprehend that MAYBE Memphis is underrated...But it is likely you are just trying to promote your agenda.

And has anyone said anything about a moral victory...It is an affect of watching a team play better than they have which is promising. As long as the team is improving I think most will feel better about the team.

I do not think Louisville is overrated. I think a number of AAC schools could have beaten Louisville on Saturday based on the way Louisville played on Saturday. My opinion is not an indictment of Louisville (they are a very good team), but rather a complement of our AAC mates.

I understand the existence of the concept that we are underrated, but I do not accept it based on the totality of results to date (e.g., struggling with Mercer, Samford, etc..). I believe it is more likely that we played over our heads like teams use to do against us when we were relevant. Finally, I think the team will improve with experience, but not sufficiently to ensure a post-season berth mentioned by Tubby.

I am not here to tell folks how they should feel about a nine point loss. I am only expressing how I feel about it.

So your assertion is Louisville played poorly...Yet they hit 14 3 pointers and shot 50+% from the 3. They sure as hell didn't shoot poorly.

What did Louisville do poorly?

I did not assert that Louisville played poorly.

Louisville played haphazardly.

They played like a team with a goodly amount of talent that was not coached up.

We wuz coached up for that game.

(12-17-2017 10:14 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:02 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:41 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 11:54 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  My post clearly states that UCF could only beat Louisville on that given day with BJ Taylor. He is not present, so UCF is excluded.

Yes, I think Temple would have beaten Louisville for that game. The difference between 58 and 28 is 30. The difference between 153 (what is is today) and 28 is 125.

I respect your opinion that a nine point defeat is a good, but I do not share it. IMO, it is a shame that we have reached the point that a margin of 9 points is considered close and a moral victory.

So your assertion is that Louisville is overrated in Kenpom due to that game...

But your mind cannot even comprehend that MAYBE Memphis is underrated...But it is likely you are just trying to promote your agenda.

And has anyone said anything about a moral victory...It is an affect of watching a team play better than they have which is promising. As long as the team is improving I think most will feel better about the team.

I do not think Louisville is overrated. I think a number of AAC schools could have beaten Louisville on Saturday based on the way Louisville played on Saturday. My opinion is not an indictment of Louisville (they are a very good team), but rather a complement of our AAC mates.

I understand the existence of the concept that we are underrated, but I do not accept it based on the totality of results to date (e.g., struggling with Mercer, Samford, etc..). I believe it is more likely that we played over our heads like teams use to do against us when we were relevant. Finally, I think the team will improve with experience, but not sufficiently to ensure a post-season berth mentioned by Tubby.

I am not here to tell folks how they should feel about a nine point loss. I am only expressing how I feel about it.

So your assertion is Louisville played poorly...Yet they hit 14 3 pointers and shot 50+% from the 3. They sure as hell didn't shoot poorly.

What did Louisville do poorly?

I did not assert that Louisville played poorly.

So we played better than we should...Yet we didn't shoot abnormally well.

If anyone played over their heads it would be Louisville with their shooting.

I enjoyed watching the game. Tigers looked good against a good team.

Let us bask in the glow of a close loss!

#pumpingishard

(12-17-2017 10:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let us bask in the glow of a close loss!

Other than the outcome, did you enjoy watching the game? Not in the general sense of 'I enjoy watching all Tiger games', but was it good basketball? I thought the guys played great. Would have liked to have seen what a healthy Rivers for the second half would have meant. That dunk of his was emphatic.

(12-17-2017 10:22 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:14 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:02 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:41 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 07:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  So your assertion is that Louisville is overrated in Kenpom due to that game...

But your mind cannot even comprehend that MAYBE Memphis is underrated...But it is likely you are just trying to promote your agenda.

And has anyone said anything about a moral victory...It is an affect of watching a team play better than they have which is promising. As long as the team is improving I think most will feel better about the team.

I do not think Louisville is overrated. I think a number of AAC schools could have beaten Louisville on Saturday based on the way Louisville played on Saturday. My opinion is not an indictment of Louisville (they are a very good team), but rather a complement of our AAC mates.

I understand the existence of the concept that we are underrated, but I do not accept it based on the totality of results to date (e.g., struggling with Mercer, Samford, etc..). I believe it is more likely that we played over our heads like teams use to do against us when we were relevant. Finally, I think the team will improve with experience, but not sufficiently to ensure a post-season berth mentioned by Tubby.

I am not here to tell folks how they should feel about a nine point loss. I am only expressing how I feel about it.

So your assertion is Louisville played poorly...Yet they hit 14 3 pointers and shot 50+% from the 3. They sure as hell didn't shoot poorly.

What did Louisville do poorly?

I did not assert that Louisville played poorly.

So we played better than we should...Yet we didn't shoot abnormally well.

If anyone played over their heads it would be Louisville with their shooting.

I am having difficulty ascertaining the point driving your belabored peicemeal questioning.

(12-17-2017 10:36 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let us bask in the glow of a close loss!

Other than the outcome, did you enjoy watching the game? Not in the general sense of 'I enjoy watching all Tiger games', but was it good basketball? I thought the guys played great. Would have liked to have seen what a healthy Rivers for the second half would have meant. That dunk of his was emphatic.

Yes. Of course I enjoyed it--fwiww.

How much happiness can we drum up about a loss?

Will it get us a better seeding in post season play?

Do I now have to root for Louisville to run the table...lol

(12-17-2017 10:58 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:36 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let us bask in the glow of a close loss!

Other than the outcome, did you enjoy watching the game? Not in the general sense of 'I enjoy watching all Tiger games', but was it good basketball? I thought the guys played great. Would have liked to have seen what a healthy Rivers for the second half would have meant. That dunk of his was emphatic.

Yes. Of course I enjoyed it--fwiww.

How much happiness can we drum up about a loss?

Will it get us a better seeding in post season play?

Do I now have to root for Louisville to run the table...lol

Just curious. There is so much vitriol on this thread I can't tell what the mood is/should be.

I'm going to stick with rooting for Louisville to lose every game in every sport for now until the end of time.

Not sure what the #pumpingishard is all about by the way?

This thread has taken an odd turn

(12-17-2017 11:22 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  This thread has taken an odrd turn

Indeed.

I’m not sure it’s a moral victory when you lose, but it is , for most tiger fans right now, a victory of sorts when the game is fun to watch, and for the most part I enjoyed the game. Does that make any sense??

(12-17-2017 11:36 PM)Newton card Wrote:  I’m not sure it’s a moral victory when you lose, but it is , for most tiger fans right now, a victory of sorts when the game is fun to watch, and for the most part I enjoyed the game. Does that make any sense??

Should. Fans clearly want this team to be better than they are. They show a glimmer of that, and we are at each others throats. Strange times.

It was just encouraging that we did not get crushed and we appeared to belong on the same case court as a pretty good team. We appear to be getting better, as we should with so many new pieces. I dont think anyone thinks were gonna go dancing, or even kNITting, but we are hoping to not totally suck. So, I guess it is a moral victory, which is better than no victory at all.

(12-17-2017 11:54 PM)hsvtiger Wrote:  It was just encouraging that we did not get cruched and we appeared to belong on the same case court as a pretty good team. We appear to be getting better, as we should with so many new pieces. I dont think anyone thinks were gonna go dancing, or even kNITting, but we are hoping to. Ot totally suck. So, I guess it is a moral victory, which is better than no victory at all.

I've never seen/heard the kNITting term. I like it.

(12-17-2017 11:09 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:58 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:36 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(12-17-2017 10:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Let us bask in the glow of a close loss!

Other than the outcome, did you enjoy watching the game? Not in the general sense of 'I enjoy watching all Tiger games', but was it good basketball? I thought the guys played great. Would have liked to have seen what a healthy Rivers for the second half would have meant. That dunk of his was emphatic.

Yes. Of course I enjoyed it--fwiww.

How much happiness can we drum up about a loss?

Will it get us a better seeding in post season play?

Do I now have to root for Louisville to run the table...lol

Just curious. There is so much vitriol on this thread I can't tell what the mood is/should be.

I'm going to stick with rooting for Louisville to lose every game in every sport for now until the end of time.

Not sure what the #pumpingishard is all about by the way?

It's just a play on words--pimping and pumping
#sunshinepumpingishard

Here's the thing. You can take one game and one play out of context and be happy. For how long, though?

Basketball is a season that has flow. The flow leads to a post season. We continually think about about our RPI and ultimately our seeding, what bracket we'll be in, where we have to play.

This stays in the back of our minds all year. We watch where the 'experts' put us in the brackets. We look forward to the polls....

We have now limited ourselves to a dunk in a game--a game we lost that we didn't embarrass ourselves.

Has it been so long that we've forgotten the flow of a real Basketball season?