We all know Neil Brown got coach of the year, but who cares about that?

Player of the Year: Javon Roland Jones DE Arkansas State
Defensive Player of the Year: Jeremy Reaves DB South Alabama
Offensive Player of the Year: Justice Hansen QB Arkansas State
Freshman of the Year: Marcus Jones KR/DB Troy
Newcomer of the Year: Ron LaForce DB New Mexico State
Coach of the Year: Neal Brown Troy

All-Sun Belt First Team Offense
Justice Hansen (Arkansas State, QB, Jr.)
Jalin Moore (Appalachian State, RB, Jr.)
Aaron Duckworth (Idaho, RB, Sr.)
Ike Lewis (Appalachian State, WR, Sr.)
Penny Hart (Georgia State, WR, RS-So.)
Jaleel Scott (New Mexico State, WR, RS-Sr.)
Blake Mack (Arkansas State, TE, Sr.)
Colby Gossett (Appalachian State, OL, Sr.)
Beau Nunn (Appalachian State, OL, Sr.)
Victor Johnson (Appalachian State, OL, So.)
Lanard Bonner (Arkansas State, OL, RS-Jr.)
Steven Rowzee (Troy, OL, Sr.)


All-Sun Belt First Team Defense
Tee Sims (Appalachian State, DL, Sr.)
Ja’Von Rolland-Jones (Arkansas State, DL, RS-Sr.)
Aikeem Coleman (Idaho, DL, Sr.)
Cedric Wilcots II (New Mexico State, DL, RS-So.)
Hunter Reese (Troy, DL, Jr.)
Eric Boggs (Appalachian State, LB, Sr.)
Tony Lashley (Idaho, LB, Jr.)
Dalton Herrington (New Mexico State, LB, Sr.)
Clifton Duck (Appalachian State, DB, So.)
Blaise Taylor (Arkansas State, DB, Sr.)
Jeremy Reaves (South Alabama, DB, Sr.)
Blace Brown (Troy, DB, Jr.)

All-Sun Belt First Team Special Teams
Gavin Patterson (South Alabama, PK, Jr.)
Corliss Waitman (South Alabama, P, Jr.)
Marcus Green (ULM, Return Specialist, Jr.)
Marcus Green (ULM, All-Purpose, Jr.)

All-Sun Belt Second Team Offense
Taylor Lamb (Appalachian State, QB, Sr.)
Larry Rose III (New Mexico State, RB, Sr.)
Jordan Chunn (Troy, RB, Sr.)
Chris Murray (Arkansas State, WR, Sr.)
Jamarius Way (South Alabama, WR, Jr.)
Deondre Douglas (Troy, WR, Jr.)
Gabe Schrade (Texas State, TE, Sr.)
Noah Johnson (Idaho, OL, So.)
Kevin Dotson (Louisiana, OL, So.)
Noah Fisher (South Alabama, OL, Jr.)
Deontae Crumitie (Troy, OL, Jr.)
Tristan Crowder (Troy, OL, So.)

All-Sun Belt Second Team Defense
Ronheen Bingham (Arkansas State, DL, Jr.)
Logan Hunt (Georgia Southern, DL, Jr.)
Jamal Stadom (Troy, DL, Sr.)
Trevon Sanders (Troy, DL, Jr.)
Kyle Wilson (Arkansas State, LB, Sr.)
Shane Johnson (Coastal Carolina, LB, Sr.)
Kaden Elliss (Idaho, LB, Jr.)
Tron Folsom (Troy, LB, So.)
Tae Hayes (Appalachian State, DB, Jr.)
Justin Clifton (Arkansas State, DB, Jr.)
Monquavion Brinson (Georgia Southern, DB, So.)
Ron LaForce (New Mexico State, DB, Jr.)

All-Sun Belt Second Team Special Teams
Tyler Bass (Georgia Southern, PK, RS-So.)
Cade Coffey (Idaho, P, RS-Fr.)
Marcus Jones (Troy, Return Specialist, Fr.)
Marcus Jones (Troy, All-Purpose, Fr.)

All-Sun Belt Third Team Offense
Tyler Rogers (New Mexico State, QB, RS-Sr.)
Osharmar Abercrombie (Coastal Carolina, RB, Sr.)
Trey Ragas (Louisiana, RB, RS-Fr.)
Justin McInnis (Arkansas State, WR, Jr.)
Malcolm Williams (Coastal Carolina, WR, Jr.)
RJ Turner (ULM, WR, So.)
Chase Rogers (Louisiana, TE, Fr.)
Jaypee Philbert (Arkansas State, OL, Sr.)
Grant Horst (Louisiana, OL, Sr.)
Frank Sutton (ULM, OL, Sr.)
Aaron Brewer (Texas State, OL, So.)
Kirk Kelley (Troy, OL, So.)

All-Sun Belt Third Team Defense
Caleb Fuller (Appalachian State, DL, Sr.)
Caleb Caston (Arkansas State, DL, Sr.)
Marterious Allen (Georgia State, DL, Jr.)
Joe Dillon (Louisiana, DL, So.)
Devan Stringer (Appalachian State, LB, Sr.)
Michael Shaw (Georgia State, LB, RS-Jr.)
Frankie Griffin (Texas State, LB, Jr.)
A.J. Howard (Appalachian State, DB, Sr.)
Chandon Sullivan (Georgia State, DB, Sr.)
Tracy Walker (Louisiana, DB, Sr.)
Shamad Lomax (New Mexico State, DB, So.)
Cedarius Rookard (Troy, DB, Jr.)

All-Sun Belt Third Team Special Teams
Sawyer Williams (Arkansas State, PK, RS-So.)
Cody Grace (Arkansas State, P, RS-So.)
Blaise Taylor (Arkansas State, Return Specialist, Sr.)
Glenn Smith (Georgia State, All-Purpose, Sr.)

Brinson should have made first team.

One more win and Doug Martin would have been my pick but they only had two close losses. 6 losses with four not that close knocked him out in my book.


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(12-07-2017 12:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Brinson should have made first team.

Over which one of those DBs?

(12-07-2017 08:02 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 12:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Brinson should have made first team.

Over which one of those DBs?

all of them

Over Duck, ok.

Eight first teamers - a record that will stand in a 12 member SBC for obvious reasons.

App loses NINE all conference players next year, Satt has his work cut out for him.

(12-07-2017 08:14 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:02 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 12:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Brinson should have made first team.

Over which one of those DBs?

all of them

If there's a better corner in the league than him, I haven't seen him.

He's tied with Duck in interceptions, tied for second in passes broken up, and even against Auburn no one was able to get the best of him.

(12-07-2017 08:33 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Over Duck, ok.

Eight first teamers - a record that will stand in a 12 member SBC for obvious reasons.

App loses NINE all conference players next year, Satt has his work cut out for him.

ARKST losses Dee Liner and their all world DE Rolland Jones. Troy losses Silvers, Chunn, and some other key players.

A lot of people penciling in these three teams. We all have a lot of work to do if we want to be at the top of the league.

Calloway from Troy should have been on this list, this man lead their D- Line in tackles and did not even get a honorable mention. QB Silvers only gets a honorable mention and he lead the Trojans to a Sun Belt Conference Championship. Is there no checks and balances when it come to the list? Good thing this list does not impacted their NFL status.

(12-07-2017 08:34 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:14 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:02 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 12:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Brinson should have made first team.

Over which one of those DBs?

all of them

If there's a better corner in the league than him, I haven't seen him.

He's tied with Duck in interceptions, tied for second in passes broken up, and even against Auburn no one was able to get the best of him.

#1 in passes defended
T4 in passes broken up (1 less than the 3 guys tied for first, so effectively T2nd)
T1 in interceptions

(12-07-2017 09:16 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:34 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:14 AM)boroeagle2 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:02 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 12:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  Brinson should have made first team.

Over which one of those DBs?

all of them

If there's a better corner in the league than him, I haven't seen him.

He's tied with Duck in interceptions, tied for second in passes broken up, and even against Auburn no one was able to get the best of him.

#1 in passes defended
T4 in passes broken up (1 less than the 3 guys tied for first, so effectively T2nd)
T1 in interceptions

A lot of good DBs on that list ... the only one he possibly could have been on instead of was Blaise Taylor, but his name carries too much weight. PBUs are such a subjective stat.

(12-07-2017 08:33 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Over Duck, ok.

Eight first teamers - a record that will stand in a 12 member SBC for obvious reasons.

App loses NINE all conference players next year, Satt has his work cut out for him.

Compared to Duck:
Same number of interceptions
Brinson +6 passes defended (17 vs 11)
Brinson +6 passes broken up (12 vs 6)

So yea. Doesn't mean Duck isn't good. But Brinson deserves 1st team.

You can't, and shouldn't, always look at the numbers on DBs. The coaches see these guys on film throughout the year. You get a friendly crew keeping stats and your PBU numbers can climb a little bit higher than others, just like tackles (why some places are WAY higher than others).

(12-07-2017 09:22 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  You can't, and shouldn't, always look at the numbers on DBs. The coaches see these guys on film throughout the year. You get a friendly crew keeping stats and your PBU numbers can climb a little bit higher than others, just like tackles (why some places are WAY higher than others).

Well I'm not looking at tackles for CB....if they're high on tackles then they're either not stopping pass completions or your defense is absolute trash.

Places like PFF have watched Brinson too and rated him high consistently, independent of any member schools. He's good.

I hate we have to argue about this, if we had an 8/9 win season he'd be first team right now and Vildor would likely be 2nd or 3rd team and this would be a moot discussion.

(12-07-2017 09:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 09:22 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  You can't, and shouldn't, always look at the numbers on DBs. The coaches see these guys on film throughout the year. You get a friendly crew keeping stats and your PBU numbers can climb a little bit higher than others, just like tackles (why some places are WAY higher than others).

Well I'm not looking at tackles for CB....if they're high on tackles then they're either not stopping pass completions or your defense is absolute trash.

Places like PFF have watched Brinson too and rated him high consistently, independent of any member schools. He's good.

I hate we have to argue about this, if we had an 8/9 win season he'd be first team right now and Vildor would likely be 2nd or 3rd team and this would be a moot discussion.

Not saying he's not a good player, just saying that those are four pretty damn good DBs on the list. I would probably have him over Taylor, but like I said, too much hype out there for Taylor that he got on based on his name.

You've got the DPOTY and two other guys who are tied for the interceptions lead -- tough sledding this year, just like the DL. SBC offenses were down from a star standpoint this year, not the case on defense.

Brinson is good. He'll likely have a shot at the NFL. It's just hard to take one of those other 4 guys off the list, especially when GS was 2-10. Like it or not, record and seniority tend to play a role in these lists. He'll be first team in 2018 and 2019, barring injury.

LOL remember when I said Shawn Elliott achieved the most with least talent? (Thanks Trent Miles!) this list proves that. LMAO.

(12-07-2017 09:19 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 08:33 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Over Duck, ok.

Eight first teamers - a record that will stand in a 12 member SBC for obvious reasons.

App loses NINE all conference players next year, Satt has his work cut out for him.

Compared to Duck:
Same number of interceptions
Brinson +6 passes defended (17 vs 11)
Brinson +6 passes broken up (12 vs 6)

So yea. Doesn't mean Duck isn't good. But Brinson deserves 1st team.

When QB don't throw to your side because of your reputation it's hard to compare stats. I'm surprised every time a QB throws his way.

(12-07-2017 09:30 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 09:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 09:22 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  You can't, and shouldn't, always look at the numbers on DBs. The coaches see these guys on film throughout the year. You get a friendly crew keeping stats and your PBU numbers can climb a little bit higher than others, just like tackles (why some places are WAY higher than others).

Well I'm not looking at tackles for CB....if they're high on tackles then they're either not stopping pass completions or your defense is absolute trash.

Places like PFF have watched Brinson too and rated him high consistently, independent of any member schools. He's good.

I hate we have to argue about this, if we had an 8/9 win season he'd be first team right now and Vildor would likely be 2nd or 3rd team and this would be a moot discussion.

Not saying he's not a good player, just saying that those are four pretty damn good DBs on the list. I would probably have him over Taylor, but like I said, too much hype out there for Taylor that he got on based on his name.

You've got the DPOTY and two other guys who are tied for the interceptions lead -- tough sledding this year, just like the DL. SBC offenses were down from a star standpoint this year, not the case on defense.

Not all of those DBs are corners. Safeties DO have to make tackles. Jeremy Reaves makes a lot of them.

(12-07-2017 09:58 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 09:30 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 09:26 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 09:22 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  You can't, and shouldn't, always look at the numbers on DBs. The coaches see these guys on film throughout the year. You get a friendly crew keeping stats and your PBU numbers can climb a little bit higher than others, just like tackles (why some places are WAY higher than others).

Well I'm not looking at tackles for CB....if they're high on tackles then they're either not stopping pass completions or your defense is absolute trash.

Places like PFF have watched Brinson too and rated him high consistently, independent of any member schools. He's good.

I hate we have to argue about this, if we had an 8/9 win season he'd be first team right now and Vildor would likely be 2nd or 3rd team and this would be a moot discussion.

Not saying he's not a good player, just saying that those are four pretty damn good DBs on the list. I would probably have him over Taylor, but like I said, too much hype out there for Taylor that he got on based on his name.

You've got the DPOTY and two other guys who are tied for the interceptions lead -- tough sledding this year, just like the DL. SBC offenses were down from a star standpoint this year, not the case on defense.

Not all of those DBs are corners. Safeties DO have to make tackles. Jeremy Reaves makes a lot of them.

Reeves is the second-best defensive player in the league ... don't think you would find many who would debate that.