(11-22-2017 12:45 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:07 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Y’all done summoned the JSU fans

And you see no names were supplied.

Transfers have no more issues than high school recruits.

Have any of these players been an issue at Troy?
Kris Weatherspoon
Kamryn Melton
Sidney Davis
Jamarius Henderson
Tyquae Russell
Tevaris McCormmick
Damion Willis
Justin Wyatt
Kelan Chairs
Rasool Clemons
Ethan Calhoun
Steven Rowzee
Bobby Klemm
Dominic Walker
Baron Poole II

May have missed a few but anyways if any have been in trouble the news didnt get to north Alabama. Most transfers come for the same reason as high school recruits, playing time.

In the last few years of Blakeny's time at Troy, it definitely seemed like team chemistry was destroyed by the massive influx of transfers they had.

Same goes for USA with the UAB injection they had, cause it was quite large. It's not about character issues, it's about how your team "fits" together once it has that kind of composition.

No one is saying don't take transfers/JUCOs to fill in holes/depth wherever it might be needed, but you can't build a team without solid recruiting from the high school ranks.

I believe that CJJ even alluded to that point, mentioning in one of his interviews that the number of transfers brought in was probably a mistake.

(11-21-2017 09:50 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:33 AM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 11:00 PM)stAte3 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:57 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:34 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  That's what I'd bet on.

I wouldn't.

Why?

Grass relies heavily on p5 transfers and transfers with character issues at that. It's cloudy how well his success would translate to FBS- it's easy to look like a wizard when your games are men amongst boys.

Which ones have character issues?

Roc thomas just off the top of my head. Nationally acclaimed talent running over FCS players at JSU because he got kicked out of Auburn.

(11-22-2017 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:07 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Y’all done summoned the JSU fans

And you see no names were supplied.

Transfers have no more issues than high school recruits.

Have any of these players been an issue at Troy?
Kris Weatherspoon
Kamryn Melton
Sidney Davis
Jamarius Henderson
Tyquae Russell
Tevaris McCormmick
Damion Willis
Justin Wyatt
Kelan Chairs
Rasool Clemons
Ethan Calhoun
Steven Rowzee
Bobby Klemm
Dominic Walker
Baron Poole II

May have missed a few but anyways if any have been in trouble the news didnt get to north Alabama. Most transfers come for the same reason as high school recruits, playing time.

Please be more specific...

Troy currently has 8 "transfers" on the roster. The remaining players came from JUCOs. Lots of schools use JUCOs to fill immediate needs while occasionally sprinkling in a graduate transfer or two. That's not the same thing as loading up on transfers from FBS schools. Blakeney did that often in the 1-AA days and a lot of those guys came to Troy with character issues. It was a risk that paid off more times than not.

(11-22-2017 07:53 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:50 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:33 AM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 11:00 PM)stAte3 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:57 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I wouldn't.

Why?

Grass relies heavily on p5 transfers and transfers with character issues at that. It's cloudy how well his success would translate to FBS- it's easy to look like a wizard when your games are men amongst boys.

Which ones have character issues?

Roc thomas just off the top of my head. Nationally acclaimed talent running over FCS players at JSU because he got kicked out of Auburn.

Pretty sure he left because of playing time and injuries. But i could be wrong. Plus if I remember correctly he had a fumbling issue as well.

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(11-22-2017 07:53 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:50 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:33 AM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 11:00 PM)stAte3 Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 10:57 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I wouldn't.

Why?

Grass relies heavily on p5 transfers and transfers with character issues at that. It's cloudy how well his success would translate to FBS- it's easy to look like a wizard when your games are men amongst boys.

Which ones have character issues?

Roc thomas just off the top of my head. Nationally acclaimed talent running over FCS players at JSU because he got kicked out of Auburn.

Roc didnt get kicked out of Auburn. Why are you making up ****?

(11-22-2017 08:52 PM)troyw Wrote:  

(11-22-2017 09:05 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:07 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  Y’all done summoned the JSU fans

And you see no names were supplied.

Transfers have no more issues than high school recruits.

Have any of these players been an issue at Troy?
Kris Weatherspoon
Kamryn Melton
Sidney Davis
Jamarius Henderson
Tyquae Russell
Tevaris McCormmick
Damion Willis
Justin Wyatt
Kelan Chairs
Rasool Clemons
Ethan Calhoun
Steven Rowzee
Bobby Klemm
Dominic Walker
Baron Poole II

May have missed a few but anyways if any have been in trouble the news didnt get to north Alabama. Most transfers come for the same reason as high school recruits, playing time.

Please be more specific...

Troy currently has 8 "transfers" on the roster. The remaining players came from JUCOs. Lots of schools use JUCOs to fill immediate needs while occasionally sprinkling in a graduate transfer or two. That's not the same thing as loading up on transfers from FBS schools. Blakeney did that often in the 1-AA days and a lot of those guys came to Troy with character issues. It was a risk that paid off more times than not.

JUCO are transfers, too.

Hatcher's season is done at Samford, and so far nothing. Grass is still coaching, so I'm going to conspiracy theory that we are waiting on Grass.

Hearing grumblings of Tee Martin to Tennessee after Schiano fiasco.

The next couple days could get very interesting.

(11-27-2017 12:10 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Hearing grumblings of Tee Martin to Tennessee after Schiano fiasco.

The next couple days could get very interesting.

I think they go with the Purdue coach. But all of the P5 openings may make our search a lot more drawn out.

Is Chip Lindsey a canidate?

(11-27-2017 03:53 PM)Golota Wrote:  Is Chip Lindsey a canidate?

Yes.

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:58 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:34 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 06:12 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  John Grass is going to be the HC of the Jags next season

That's what I'd bet on.

I'm not familiar with the other candidates but am with Grass. The SBC and USA needs him as he is a great coach. Bad for the rest of us.

My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:58 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:34 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  That's what I'd bet on.

I'm not familiar with the other candidates but am with Grass. The SBC and USA needs him as he is a great coach. Bad for the rest of us.

My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We actually did. JSU has double the amount that UCA has.

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:58 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-20-2017 07:34 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  That's what I'd bet on.

I'm not familiar with the other candidates but am with Grass. The SBC and USA needs him as he is a great coach. Bad for the rest of us.

My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We won a shitload of national championships and a metric asston of games without massive transfers.

App was the same way.

(11-27-2017 08:10 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:58 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  I'm not familiar with the other candidates but am with Grass. The SBC and USA needs him as he is a great coach. Bad for the rest of us.

My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We actually did. JSU has double the amount that UCA has.

UCA probably does have half or less FBS transfers as they rely on JUCO transfers more. JSU probably more than double of the sit out (transferring up a division) transfers as UCA.

(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:58 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  I'm not familiar with the other candidates but am with Grass. The SBC and USA needs him as he is a great coach. Bad for the rest of us.

My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We won a shitload of national championships and a metric asston of games without massive transfers.

App was the same way.

When JSU played NDSU in the NC game a couple of years back, JSU had 11 transfers while NDSU had 7 (non JUCO).
We have more on our team now probably around 16-17 but less JUCO transfers. The total normally runs around 20 for both type transfers combined.

(11-27-2017 08:10 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 09:58 AM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  I'm not familiar with the other candidates but am with Grass. The SBC and USA needs him as he is a great coach. Bad for the rest of us.

My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We actually did. JSU has double the amount that UCA has.

UCA is coached by a former JUCO coach. They run through the Mississippi JUCO's heavily.

(11-28-2017 12:13 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:36 AM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  My main concern with Grass is that he has a ton of FBS transfers.

That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We won a shitload of national championships and a metric asston of games without massive transfers.

App was the same way.

When JSU played NDSU in the NC game a couple of years back, JSU had 11 transfers while NDSU had 7 (non JUCO).
We have more on our team now probably around 16-17 but less JUCO transfers. The total normally runs around 20 for both type transfers combined.

20 is a lot.

That's ~1/3 of the available scholarships allotted for FCS.

You're in the ******* south. You can throw a rock in any direction and hit all kinds of recruits.

(11-28-2017 07:58 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 12:13 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  

(11-21-2017 10:45 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  That's been my biggest concern with him as well.

Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We won a shitload of national championships and a metric asston of games without massive transfers.

App was the same way.

When JSU played NDSU in the NC game a couple of years back, JSU had 11 transfers while NDSU had 7 (non JUCO).
We have more on our team now probably around 16-17 but less JUCO transfers. The total normally runs around 20 for both type transfers combined.

20 is a lot.

That's ~1/3 of the available scholarships allotted for FCS.

You're in the ******* south. You can throw a rock in any direction and hit all kinds of recruits.

The public schools in the South will probably have more transfers than any other region. Or at least among the better teams in FCS. Northern teams which have few low level FBS schools to compete against for recruits seem to have less. The western school fall in the middle. If you check the rosters, JSU, JMU, Sam Houston, Kennesaw and UCA will probably have more transfers (JUCO included) than any other teams still in the playoffs.

(11-28-2017 10:26 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 07:58 AM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-28-2017 12:13 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 08:18 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:39 PM)Florida RedWolf Wrote:  Take a look at every good FCS school and you will see a bunch of FBS transfers. Nothing wrong with this.

We won a shitload of national championships and a metric asston of games without massive transfers.

App was the same way.

When JSU played NDSU in the NC game a couple of years back, JSU had 11 transfers while NDSU had 7 (non JUCO).
We have more on our team now probably around 16-17 but less JUCO transfers. The total normally runs around 20 for both type transfers combined.

20 is a lot.

That's ~1/3 of the available scholarships allotted for FCS.

You're in the ******* south. You can throw a rock in any direction and hit all kinds of recruits.

The public schools in the South will probably have more transfers than any other region. Or at least among the better teams in FCS. Northern teams which have few low level FBS schools to compete against for recruits seem to have less. The western school fall in the middle. If you check the rosters, JSU, JMU, Sam Houston, Kennesaw and UCA will probably have more transfers (JUCO included) than any other teams still in the playoffs.

Kennesaw makes sense as they needed to build depth a bit differently while starting their program.

But all you're doing is justifying an inability to recruit.