He is a Georgia Southern guy though and through. I think this is a great hire.

After beating USA 52-0, and then beating ULL 34-24, I'm convinced Lunsford can resurrect this football team as soon as next season.

This boys and girls is why you got to be super careful about firing a coach early.
It always places you at risk of the interim getting the job or a significant segment wanting the interim to get the job and then they are mad when they don't. Eagles won two more games and season ends up being really bad instead of epically bad but is that worth having skewed coaching search?

https://twitter.com/NathanDeenSMN/status...2015626240

Lunsford has a 650k base salary

(11-27-2017 03:30 PM)GATA Wrote:  https://twitter.com/NathanDeenSMN/status...2015626240

Lunsford has a 650k base salary

4 year contract?

(11-27-2017 03:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  This boys and girls is why you got to be super careful about firing a coach early.
It always places you at risk of the interim getting the job or a significant segment wanting the interim to get the job and then they are mad when they don't. Eagles won two more games and season ends up being really bad instead of epically bad but is that worth having skewed coaching search?

I will say this ... I advocated privately that Summers be canned after that ridiculous loss to UNH in Birmingham w/ the idea of giving Lunsford the remainder of the year to figure it out.

Then, you have the necessary data to make a determination if you can ride with him or not.

From a recruiter & motivational perspective, he is in select company IMO. He's genuine, there isn't nothing fake about him and I think that is what resonates with the players and many of the fans who've rallied behind him on social media.

The big question is does he have the pull to improve the assistant coaching pool around him, and is he able to do that on a consistent basis. I'd seriously hope that our AD has sufficiently explored and answered this question as he failed spectacularly at vetting this during the Summers hiring process.

As I told a friend of mine at lunch today that if Lunsford wins that TK has found the guy he thought he had in Summers ... the one that will be content to stay in Statesboro and coach for a long time ... again, if he wins.

(11-27-2017 03:33 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  This boys and girls is why you got to be super careful about firing a coach early.
It always places you at risk of the interim getting the job or a significant segment wanting the interim to get the job and then they are mad when they don't. Eagles won two more games and season ends up being really bad instead of epically bad but is that worth having skewed coaching search?

I will say this ... I advocated privately that Summers be canned after that ridiculous loss to UNH in Birmingham w/ the idea of giving Lunsford the remainder of the year to figure it out.

Then, you have the necessary data to make a determination if you can ride with him or not.

From a recruiter & motivational perspective, he is in select company IMO. He's genuine, there isn't nothing fake about him and I think that is what resonates with the players and many of the fans who've rallied behind him on social media.

The big question is does he have the pull to improve the assistant coaching pool around him, and is he able to do that on a consistent basis. I'd seriously hope that our AD has sufficiently explored and answered this question as he failed spectacularly at vetting this during the Summers hiring process.

As I told a friend of mine at lunch today that if Lunsford wins that TK has found the guy he thought he had in Summers ... the one that will be content to stay in Statesboro and coach for a long time ... again, if he wins.

My one hope is that we aren't dating our best friend and it gets screwed up.....then we lose our best friend AND we end up alone.

(11-27-2017 02:49 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Funny how things work out, if GS plays Troy and Ark St. to finish the season he probably doesn't get the job.

well we did outgain stAte by 100 yards or so, but both teams turned over the ball 4 or 5 times. I think if we play both teams the two weeks we played troy and stAte, not saying we definitely win both, but we are a completely different team than we were under summers. It is night and day.

(11-27-2017 03:35 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:33 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:23 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  This boys and girls is why you got to be super careful about firing a coach early.
It always places you at risk of the interim getting the job or a significant segment wanting the interim to get the job and then they are mad when they don't. Eagles won two more games and season ends up being really bad instead of epically bad but is that worth having skewed coaching search?

I will say this ... I advocated privately that Summers be canned after that ridiculous loss to UNH in Birmingham w/ the idea of giving Lunsford the remainder of the year to figure it out.

Then, you have the necessary data to make a determination if you can ride with him or not.

From a recruiter & motivational perspective, he is in select company IMO. He's genuine, there isn't nothing fake about him and I think that is what resonates with the players and many of the fans who've rallied behind him on social media.

The big question is does he have the pull to improve the assistant coaching pool around him, and is he able to do that on a consistent basis. I'd seriously hope that our AD has sufficiently explored and answered this question as he failed spectacularly at vetting this during the Summers hiring process.

As I told a friend of mine at lunch today that if Lunsford wins that TK has found the guy he thought he had in Summers ... the one that will be content to stay in Statesboro and coach for a long time ... again, if he wins.

My one hope is that we aren't dating our best friend and it gets screwed up.....then we lose our best friend AND we end up alone.

There is a reason I mentioned all the previous coaching decision divisions .... it has been messy before being a Georgia Southern fan. Feast and famine, but it's usually damn good when we are feasting.

I've mentioned to a few folks outside of the board here that this little run we're on late reminds me of our last regular season victory against Liberty in 1996. Despite the 4-7 record that year we ended on a positive note and it set up the next 5 years with a remarkable run.

Of course, we have to win next Saturday to keep this trend going.

(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:49 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Funny how things work out, if GS plays Troy and Ark St. to finish the season he probably doesn't get the job.

well we did outgain stAte by 100 yards or so, but both teams turned over the ball 4 or 5 times. I think if we play both teams the two weeks we played troy and stAte, not saying we definitely win both, but we are a completely different team than we were under summers. It is night and day.

We were +1.

They had 5 turnovers to our 4.

Ball security alone would have won us a couple more games more than likely. Definitely the Gast game.

and for an unpopular opinion, other than 1 bad football hire, we have no reason to hate on TK. Our athletic department had a $1.2M surplus last year. 2nd to Texas State. Our basketball team is really good, and has the potential to be one of the best teams we have ever fielded. Our baseball is still competing after moving up to a much tougher conference, he hired Fritz, and yeah, he apparently botched the contract issue, but right now, we are talking about a guy who is supposed to run an entire department, but people want to have him fired because of a bad football hire. If we win 7 games next year, we really have no reason to want him fired.

(11-27-2017 03:44 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:43 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 02:49 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Funny how things work out, if GS plays Troy and Ark St. to finish the season he probably doesn't get the job.

well we did outgain stAte by 100 yards or so, but both teams turned over the ball 4 or 5 times. I think if we play both teams the two weeks we played troy and stAte, not saying we definitely win both, but we are a completely different team than we were under summers. It is night and day.

We were +1.

They had 5 turnovers to our 4.

Ball security alone would have won us a couple more games more than likely. Definitely the Gast game.

yup. ball control wins us Ga State. Even if CL had been out coach for this whole season, Troy and App State are just better, and much more veteran teams. People forget that we have the youngest team in FBS

(11-27-2017 03:51 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for an unpopular opinion, other than 1 bad football hire, we have no reason to hate on TK. Our athletic department had a $1.2M surplus last year. 2nd to Texas State. Our basketball team is really good, and has the potential to be one of the best teams we have ever fielded. Our baseball is still competing after moving up to a much tougher conference, he hired Fritz, and yeah, he apparently botched the contract issue, but right now, we are talking about a guy who is supposed to run an entire department, but people want to have him fired because of a bad football hire. If we win 7 games next year, we really have no reason to want him fired.

Well, my opinion is neither pro- or anti-TK, but our football program is the moneymaker of the department and if he makes a 2nd subsequent bad hire in that sport he won't survive it.

(11-27-2017 04:09 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:51 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for an unpopular opinion, other than 1 bad football hire, we have no reason to hate on TK. Our athletic department had a $1.2M surplus last year. 2nd to Texas State. Our basketball team is really good, and has the potential to be one of the best teams we have ever fielded. Our baseball is still competing after moving up to a much tougher conference, he hired Fritz, and yeah, he apparently botched the contract issue, but right now, we are talking about a guy who is supposed to run an entire department, but people want to have him fired because of a bad football hire. If we win 7 games next year, we really have no reason to want him fired.

Well, my opinion is neither pro- or anti-TK, but our football program is the moneymaker of the department and if he makes a 2nd subsequent bad hire in that sport he won't survive it.

I agree, but there are people who think he needs to go now, which quite frankly, is absurd. Yeah, if CL tanks and we lose for 2 more seasons, then we will have an issue. But to say he is on the hot seat even if CL wins, is dumb.

(11-27-2017 04:12 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:09 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 03:51 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  and for an unpopular opinion, other than 1 bad football hire, we have no reason to hate on TK. Our athletic department had a $1.2M surplus last year. 2nd to Texas State. Our basketball team is really good, and has the potential to be one of the best teams we have ever fielded. Our baseball is still competing after moving up to a much tougher conference, he hired Fritz, and yeah, he apparently botched the contract issue, but right now, we are talking about a guy who is supposed to run an entire department, but people want to have him fired because of a bad football hire. If we win 7 games next year, we really have no reason to want him fired.

Well, my opinion is neither pro- or anti-TK, but our football program is the moneymaker of the department and if he makes a 2nd subsequent bad hire in that sport he won't survive it.

I agree, but there are people who think he needs to go now, which quite frankly, is absurd. Yeah, if CL tanks and we lose for 2 more seasons, then we will have an issue. But to say he is on the hot seat even if CL wins, is dumb.

Well part of an AD is being able to build support for the program financially. Build momentum in season ticket sales, etc. Garner support for things like a practice facility, a new basketball arena, etc.

To say he isn't on the hot seat is completely premature at this point, because I don't think the move to hire Lunsford is going to translate in reversing all those season ticket sales that evaporated over the last two years.

(11-27-2017 04:42 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  Well part of an AD is being able to build support for the program financially. Build momentum in season ticket sales, etc. Garner support for things like a practice facility, a new basketball arena, etc.

To say he isn't on the hot seat is completely premature at this point, because I don't think the move to hire Lunsford is going to translate in reversing all those season ticket sales that evaporated over the last two years.

If we win, the attendance and season ticket sales will pick back up. I couldn't care less about making a hire that will instantly create a buzz in the fan base.

IMO one of the dumbest things you can do as an AD is to try and make a "sexy" hire. That's what Brian VanGorder was.

(11-27-2017 04:49 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:42 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  Well part of an AD is being able to build support for the program financially. Build momentum in season ticket sales, etc. Garner support for things like a practice facility, a new basketball arena, etc.

To say he isn't on the hot seat is completely premature at this point, because I don't think the move to hire Lunsford is going to translate in reversing all those season ticket sales that evaporated over the last two years.

If we win, the attendance and season ticket sales will pick back up. I couldn't care less about making a hire that will instantly create a buzz in the fan base.

IMO one of the dumbest things you can do as an AD is to try and make a "sexy" hire. That's what Brian VanGorder was.

I don't disagree but let's not act like TK has a thick cushion he's sitting on that is impermeable to heat.

I said before no matter who was hired, there'd be a segment of our fan base that isn't happy. Whether or not some folks want to admit it, the flexbone contingent has been historically a large component of our season ticket base.

That is eroding at a steady clip due to the aging of that segment of the fanbase and the continued hiring decisions away from that style of offense and the architects of it.

I'm being very neutral here in my opinion. I obviously want to see Chad succeed, but I can see why those who are not happy with the selection are unhappy. It isn't a reflection on Chad, but a reflection on the process that led to Chad and the decisions being made along the way.

(11-27-2017 05:15 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:49 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2017 04:42 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  Well part of an AD is being able to build support for the program financially. Build momentum in season ticket sales, etc. Garner support for things like a practice facility, a new basketball arena, etc.

To say he isn't on the hot seat is completely premature at this point, because I don't think the move to hire Lunsford is going to translate in reversing all those season ticket sales that evaporated over the last two years.

If we win, the attendance and season ticket sales will pick back up. I couldn't care less about making a hire that will instantly create a buzz in the fan base.

IMO one of the dumbest things you can do as an AD is to try and make a "sexy" hire. That's what Brian VanGorder was.

I don't disagree but let's not act like TK has a thick cushion he's sitting on that is impermeable to heat.

I said before no matter who was hired, there'd be a segment of our fan base that isn't happy. Whether or not some folks want to admit it, the flexbone contingent has been historically a large component of our season ticket base.

That is eroding at a steady clip due to the aging of that segment of the fanbase and the continued hiring decisions away from that style of offense and the architects of it.

I'm being very neutral here in my opinion. I obviously want to see Chad succeed, but I can see why those who are not happy with the selection are unhappy. It isn't a reflection on Chad, but a reflection on the process that led to Chad and the decisions being made along the way.

I'm sure there is lots of information I do not know, but the contract suit is the issue that chaps my ass.

Rumors going around that Lunsford might be able to poach Scot Sloan from App State.

(11-27-2017 05:49 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Rumors going around that Lunsford might be able to poach Scot Sloan from App State.

Sold

He's a recruiting beast in GA, hope that isn't the case.