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(11-12-2017 09:44 AM)ODU Hoops Wrote:  I think Jeff must have kicked Razor's dog at some point. At least everyone now realizes that his basketball opinions don't matter since he only derives happiness from Jones' failures.

Poor dog...it was just recovering from when BT kicked it!

(11-12-2017 09:48 AM)Big Bluezilla Wrote:  

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(11-11-2017 11:29 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Liked the DJ's even though the music doesn't work for an old timer like me, I can see the kids loving it. They need to get more use out of them. Ankerson, the pep band and recorded music could all be cut back a little.

DO NOT get me started on Ankerson.

Shared an elevator ride in the parking garage with the DJ. Very nice guy. Needs to be utilized 100% more.

After being exposed to how much a breath of fresh air Ripley was in PA I just am so disappointed going forward. Truly think it’s time ...


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The only problem I see will be who will take over the PBP for the WBB games.

Anybody gonna do a 3.2.1 write up on the game? Would love to see some insight before the JMU game.

(11-12-2017 04:18 PM)FantomVII Wrote:  Anybody gonna do a 3.2.1 write up on the game? Would love to see some insight before the JMU game.

I’ll work on one tonight.

3 Observations

1. While two of the best defenders graduated and have moved on, it is clear that a Jeff Jones team will always play defense. Trey Porter, if he can stay out of foul trouble, has the tools to be the Defensive Player of the Year in the conference. He changes everything at the rim. With Trey and Brandan (and our athletic guards in BJ and Randy), teams are going to have to make outside shots against us, as it will simply be too difficult to get anything in the paint whatsoever.

2. Caver and Brandan clearly struggled. We won't see many 1-8 from deep, 1-5 in FTs from Ahmad. The Monarchs can't afford to have Brandan struggle as much as he did. Thankfully, both players have shown that they are better than they played on Friday, and the Monarchs were able to get the W despite their struggles.

3. Xavier Green is so smooth and is going to be a star before he leaves Hampton Boulevard. He seems to be a natural basketball player. Glides all over the court. Has shown an ability to shoot the ball (the pull-up jumper in the first half was so sweet), but most importantly seems to let the game come to him. For a freshman, you can usually expect a couple of forced plays each game. He did none of it on Friday night. His offensive efficiency was off the charts. On defense, he got beat on an baseline out of bounds play once, but seemed to heed the correction and put himself in better defensive position the rest of the game and even had a couple of steals.

Two Questions

1. Are the Monarchs going to struggle to rebound all season or was it a combination of Towson's excellence on the glass and the Stith/Porter foul trouble that caused such a rebounding advantage for the Tigers? Clearly, Towson is one of the best rebounding teams in the country. And, clearly, foul trouble kept Brandan and Trey from getting into any sort of rhythm, but who is going to step up. BJ is a better rebounder than he showed on Friday and AC is going to have to grab more than 2 rebounds in 22 minutes (although, he was really solid overall).

2. Will Ahmad Caver set a new record for minutes played in a season? He played a full 40 on Friday, and I expect he will average 35+ for the season, but at some point, Jeff Jones will have to find a way to get him some rest. What is the lineup going to look like when he does that? Will Pinckney get the time filling in for Caver or will Jones choose to play without a traditional PG?

One Prediction
1. The Monarchs hit 64 West tomorrow for an evening tilt against the old rivals from JMU. JMU has something like 11 new players. While it's difficult to win on the road, this Monarch team has the experience and talent to pull it off. I'd be disappointed in anything short of a double digit victory for the boys from Norfolk. My prediction: 68-52 Monarchs.

Too early to tell on rebounding; kind of the three headed monster:

Foul Trouble
Towson is a great rebounding team
Zone defense

Kind of crazy that Ahmad can't come off the court this year and next year we could have the best two point guards in the conference on our roster.

(11-12-2017 04:30 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(11-12-2017 04:18 PM)FantomVII Wrote:  Anybody gonna do a 3.2.1 write up on the game? Would love to see some insight before the JMU game.

I’ll work on one tonight.

Thanks, Coach. As always, very insightful.

Rebounding- some early missed 3's left us out of position for rebound.

Towson penetrated to the rim far to often. I thought the D was a little less than spectacular.

Not sure how you can criticize the D with the number of turnovers, blocks, and steals the D created.

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Those were all stellar. Point stands they allowed to much penetration.

(11-12-2017 08:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  3 Observations

1. While two of the best defenders graduated and have moved on, it is clear that a Jeff Jones team will always play defense. Trey Porter, if he can stay out of foul trouble, has the tools to be the Defensive Player of the Year in the conference. He changes everything at the rim. With Trey and Brandan (and our athletic guards in BJ and Randy), teams are going to have to make outside shots against us, as it will simply be too difficult to get anything in the paint whatsoever.

2. Caver and Brandan clearly struggled. We won't see many 1-8 from deep, 1-5 in FTs from Ahmad. The Monarchs can't afford to have Brandan struggle as much as he did. Thankfully, both players have shown that they are better than they played on Friday, and the Monarchs were able to get the W despite their struggles.

3. Xavier Green is so smooth and is going to be a star before he leaves Hampton Boulevard. He seems to be a natural basketball player. Glides all over the court. Has shown an ability to shoot the ball (the pull-up jumper in the first half was so sweet), but most importantly seems to let the game come to him. For a freshman, you can usually expect a couple of forced plays each game. He did none of it on Friday night. His offensive efficiency was off the charts. On defense, he got beat on an baseline out of bounds play once, but seemed to heed the correction and put himself in better defensive position the rest of the game and even had a couple of steals.

Two Questions

1. Are the Monarchs going to struggle to rebound all season or was it a combination of Towson's excellence on the glass and the Stith/Porter foul trouble that caused such a rebounding advantage for the Tigers? Clearly, Towson is one of the best rebounding teams in the country. And, clearly, foul trouble kept Brandan and Trey from getting into any sort of rhythm, but who is going to step up. BJ is a better rebounder than he showed on Friday and AC is going to have to grab more than 2 rebounds in 22 minutes (although, he was really solid overall).

2. Will Ahmad Caver set a new record for minutes played in a season? He played a full 40 on Friday, and I expect he will average 35+ for the season, but at some point, Jeff Jones will have to find a way to get him some rest. What is the lineup going to look like when he does that? Will Pinckney get the time filling in for Caver or will Jones choose to play without a traditional PG?

One Prediction
1. The Monarchs hit 64 West tomorrow for an evening tilt against the old rivals from JMU. JMU has something like 11 new players. While it's difficult to win on the road, this Monarch team has the experience and talent to pull it off. I'd be disappointed in anything short of a double digit victory for the boys from Norfolk. My prediction: 68-52 Monarchs.

Good job Coach. I appreciate your contribution.

(11-13-2017 07:58 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Those were all stellar. Point stands they allowed to much penetration.

They scored 14 points in the paint versus our 30 points in the paint.

From my new vantage point at the Ted, it's pretty easy to hear Jones. he was very much interested in ODU running, but you've got to rebound much better than we in order for the break to start. That's going to be true no matter who we play, and I hope one game won't be indicative of our rebounding prowess this season.

On another subject, Indiana State absolutely crushed IU in Bloomington last weekend. Possible 2nd round opponent in Charleston this week.

(11-13-2017 09:21 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  From my new vantage point at the Ted, it's pretty easy to hear Jones. he was very much interested in ODU running, but you've got to rebound much better than we in order for the break to start. That's going to be true no matter who we play, and I hope one game won't be indicative of our rebounding prowess this season.

On another subject, Indiana State absolutely crushed IU in Bloomington last weekend. Possible 2nd round opponent in Charleston this week.

Absolutely. Also, there are teams that get back well defensively. We are a very good transition defense team and so is Towson. There weren't that many opportunities to run.

Thanks Coach. Good stuff.

(11-12-2017 08:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  3 Observations

1. While two of the best defenders graduated and have moved on, it is clear that a Jeff Jones team will always play defense. Trey Porter, if he can stay out of foul trouble, has the tools to be the Defensive Player of the Year in the conference. He changes everything at the rim. With Trey and Brandan (and our athletic guards in BJ and Randy), teams are going to have to make outside shots against us, as it will simply be too difficult to get anything in the paint whatsoever.

2. Caver and Brandan clearly struggled. We won't see many 1-8 from deep, 1-5 in FTs from Ahmad. The Monarchs can't afford to have Brandan struggle as much as he did. Thankfully, both players have shown that they are better than they played on Friday, and the Monarchs were able to get the W despite their struggles.

3. Xavier Green is so smooth and is going to be a star before he leaves Hampton Boulevard. He seems to be a natural basketball player. Glides all over the court. Has shown an ability to shoot the ball (the pull-up jumper in the first half was so sweet), but most importantly seems to let the game come to him. For a freshman, you can usually expect a couple of forced plays each game. He did none of it on Friday night. His offensive efficiency was off the charts. On defense, he got beat on an baseline out of bounds play once, but seemed to heed the correction and put himself in better defensive position the rest of the game and even had a couple of steals.

Two Questions

1. Are the Monarchs going to struggle to rebound all season or was it a combination of Towson's excellence on the glass and the Stith/Porter foul trouble that caused such a rebounding advantage for the Tigers? Clearly, Towson is one of the best rebounding teams in the country. And, clearly, foul trouble kept Brandan and Trey from getting into any sort of rhythm, but who is going to step up. BJ is a better rebounder than he showed on Friday and AC is going to have to grab more than 2 rebounds in 22 minutes (although, he was really solid overall).

2. Will Ahmad Caver set a new record for minutes played in a season? He played a full 40 on Friday, and I expect he will average 35+ for the season, but at some point, Jeff Jones will have to find a way to get him some rest. What is the lineup going to look like when he does that? Will Pinckney get the time filling in for Caver or will Jones choose to play without a traditional PG?

One Prediction
1. The Monarchs hit 64 West tomorrow for an evening tilt against the old rivals from JMU. JMU has something like 11 new players. While it's difficult to win on the road, this Monarch team has the experience and talent to pull it off. I'd be disappointed in anything short of a double digit victory for the boys from Norfolk. My prediction: 68-52 Monarchs.

Really my only concern with Brandon (and ODU in general) is the stupid fouls that are away from the play or unnecessary. I feel like more often than not, he is the one getting himself into foul trouble not the refs making a bunch of bad calls just on him. As a senior he has to be a little more disciplined and limit the dumb fouls.

(11-12-2017 08:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  3 Observations

1. While two of the best defenders graduated and have moved on, it is clear that a Jeff Jones team will always play defense. Trey Porter, if he can stay out of foul trouble, has the tools to be the Defensive Player of the Year in the conference. He changes everything at the rim. With Trey and Brandan (and our athletic guards in BJ and Randy), teams are going to have to make outside shots against us, as it will simply be too difficult to get anything in the paint whatsoever.

2. Caver and Brandan clearly struggled. We won't see many 1-8 from deep, 1-5 in FTs from Ahmad. The Monarchs can't afford to have Brandan struggle as much as he did. Thankfully, both players have shown that they are better than they played on Friday, and the Monarchs were able to get the W despite their struggles.

3. Xavier Green is so smooth and is going to be a star before he leaves Hampton Boulevard. He seems to be a natural basketball player. Glides all over the court. Has shown an ability to shoot the ball (the pull-up jumper in the first half was so sweet), but most importantly seems to let the game come to him. For a freshman, you can usually expect a couple of forced plays each game. He did none of it on Friday night. His offensive efficiency was off the charts. On defense, he got beat on an baseline out of bounds play once, but seemed to heed the correction and put himself in better defensive position the rest of the game and even had a couple of steals.

Two Questions

1. Are the Monarchs going to struggle to rebound all season or was it a combination of Towson's excellence on the glass and the Stith/Porter foul trouble that caused such a rebounding advantage for the Tigers? Clearly, Towson is one of the best rebounding teams in the country. And, clearly, foul trouble kept Brandan and Trey from getting into any sort of rhythm, but who is going to step up. BJ is a better rebounder than he showed on Friday and AC is going to have to grab more than 2 rebounds in 22 minutes (although, he was really solid overall).

2. Will Ahmad Caver set a new record for minutes played in a season? He played a full 40 on Friday, and I expect he will average 35+ for the season, but at some point, Jeff Jones will have to find a way to get him some rest. What is the lineup going to look like when he does that? Will Pinckney get the time filling in for Caver or will Jones choose to play without a traditional PG?

One Prediction
1. The Monarchs hit 64 West tomorrow for an evening tilt against the old rivals from JMU. JMU has something like 11 new players. While it's difficult to win on the road, this Monarch team has the experience and talent to pull it off. I'd be disappointed in anything short of a double digit victory for the boys from Norfolk. My prediction: 68-52 Monarchs.

To say "Clearly Towson is one of the best rebounding teams in the country" is a bit of a stretch. The only thing clear about the Towson game was ODU at this point in the season is a very poor rebounding team.However one game into the season does not mean much. We have a lot of work to do. I don't think you are going to be able to tell much from tonight's game because JMU is not very good and it will be an ugly game. Thursdays game with Temple and Friday's game with either Indiana State or Auburn will tell a lot more as to where we stand and if we are any good this year. At this point we are only 7 deep. It will be interesting to see if Huett or Godwin can rise to the occasion or not and be the 8th man we need...badly. I don't see us being a good rebounding team this year because we are too small. Losing the Wake transfer and Kah is really going to hurt us. At this point I don't see much improvement over last year....I hope I am wrong...These injuries are going to hurt us big time.

Caver has simply got to make his foul shots. With him being the point guard and how much he handles the ball, he will be going to the line a lot. 5,6,7 points more he can have every game if he would just shoot 70% or so from the line.

(11-13-2017 10:07 AM)mac Wrote:  Caver has simply got to make his foul shots. With him being the point guard and how much he handles the ball, he will be going to the line a lot. 5,6,7 points more he can have every game if he would just shoot 70% or so from the line.

Absolutely! The thing is he is a good shooter. And he has good form at the line. Hopefully, it was just an off night for him and he will prove to be very solid at the line beginning tonight. The same goes for Haynes. He is a better foul shooter than he showed on Saturday.