(11-06-2017 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  My how things have changed. I was taught never to hit a woman.

What is wrong with our country?

Democrats

(11-06-2017 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  My how things have changed. I was taught never to hit a woman.

What is wrong with our country?

Democrats

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  My how things have changed. I was taught never to hit a woman.

What is wrong with our country?

My Grandmother always told us to not hit a woman. But if a woman hit you and put herself in a man's shoes she was fair game.

Has a woman ever hit you and if so, did you hit her back?

The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  My Grandmother always told us to not hit a woman. But if a woman hit you and put herself in a man's shoes she was fair game.

Has a woman ever hit you and if so, did you hit her back?

The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Has a woman ever hit you and if so, did you hit her back?

The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

You need to watch the video again. The slap was horizontal.

But I'm going to need a link to something to scientifically back things up. If you can provide that I'm going to need the number to Guinness Book of World Records because I received a corneal abrasion (that's the medical term for a scratched eye) from a vertical slap of a pine tree when I was 14.

(11-07-2017 02:29 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

You need to watch the video again. The slap was horizontal.

But I'm going to need a link to something to scientifically back things up. If you can provide that I'm going to need the number to Guinness Book of World Records because I received a corneal abrasion (that's the medical term for a scratched eye) from a vertical slap of a pine tree when I was 14.

A pine tree? I'm talking about human fingers attempting to strike the face from above the opponent.

The brow would block the fingers and deflect them. Also, the eyelid reflexes are extremely quick. They would close immediately protecting the eye.

A proper "tiger claw" comes from a horizontal angle so that it can separate the eye lids even if they are closed.

(11-07-2017 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  A pine tree? I'm talking about human fingers attempting to strike the face from above the opponent.

The instrument of injury (pine tree or fingernail) doesn't matter. It's all about the mechanism of injury.

Quote:The brow would block the fingers and deflect them.

So long as the angle of motion stayed consistent. If there is a curvature in the angle of motion, such as in a swinging arm, or a change in position of the target, such as with a walking human being, then it is likely that contact could be made with the eye without touching the brow. If everything involved stayed in position you would have a point, but in this case they didn't and you don't.

Quote: Also, the eyelid reflexes are extremely quick. They would close immediately protecting the eye.

If that were the case then there would never be any eye injuries.

Quote:A proper "tiger claw" comes from a horizontal angle so that it can separate the eye lids even if they are closed.

That's well and good if a "tiger claw" were the only way to damage an eye. It's not so it's irrelevant.

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Has a woman ever hit you and if so, did you hit her back?

The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

And away we go

Poke the bull, get the horns. No sympathy from me.

Quote: The instrument of injury (pine tree or fingernail) doesn't matter. It's all about the mechanism of injury.

Of course it matters. A pine needle is smaller and has the ability to bend any which way and spring back to it's original position. A fingernail cannot and will continue to go in the direction it was changed to in this case the brow of a persons's head.

Quote:That's well and good if a "tiger claw" were the only way to damage an eye. It's not so it's irrelevant.

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But this is the only way she could have hurt the officer since she didn't have a weapon in her hand.

(11-07-2017 03:35 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote: The instrument of injury (pine tree or fingernail) doesn't matter. It's all about the mechanism of injury.

Of course it matters. A pine needle is smaller and has the ability to bend any which way and spring back to it's original position. A fingernail cannot and will continue to go in the direction it was changed to in this case the brow of a persons's head.

A quick little botany lesson for you.

Pine needles are attached to the pine tree by these things called branches. Branches are wood which is covered in this substance called bark. Bark can take many shapes...from smooth to coarse, but in a pine tree it tends to be coarse and in many cases contains sharp edges.

Quote:

Quote:That's well and good if a "tiger claw" were the only way to damage an eye. It's not so it's irrelevant.

But this is the only way she could have hurt the officer since she didn't have a weapon in her hand.[/quote]

Absolutely false. A fingernail grazing against the eye surface can and will damage the eye, especially when done in a swinging manner like was shown in the video.



I don't know who taught you your ninja class but I hope for your sake me made up for his theoretical ignorance with outstanding physical instruction because if not you got screwed.

(11-06-2017 01:08 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  My how things have changed. I was taught never to hit a woman.

What is wrong with our country?

Well leftist have taught us there is no difference between men and women, a man can be a woman, and a woman can be a man.

Come to think of it, are we sure that was a woman? did you just assume their gender?

You couldn't have said it more perfectly...

(11-06-2017 01:11 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-06-2017 12:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  My how things have changed. I was taught never to hit a woman.

What is wrong with our country?

My Grandmother always told us to not hit a woman. But if a woman hit you and put herself in a man's shoes she was fair game.

That's my motto as well...

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 12:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Has a woman ever hit you and if so, did you hit her back?

The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

Lol.

That is total and complete bunk.

No one said “gouge his eye out”, do you not recall the Pro O-lineman losing his eye, or at least his vision from the refs beanbag that hit him in the eye, THROUGH his face mask?

Ended his career, was awarded significant damages cause of it.

My kid was touch iand go with losing an eye after taking an iceball to the face in what was supposed to be friendly neighborhood snowball fight.

You need to go ask for your money back from this “training”...

(11-07-2017 10:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

Lol.

That is total and complete bunk.

No one said “gouge his eye out”, do you not recall the Pro O-lineman losing his eye, or at least his vision from the refs beanbag that hit him in the eye, THROUGH his face mask?

Ended his career, was awarded significant damages cause of it.

My kid was touch iand go with losing an eye after taking an iceball to the face in what was supposed to be friendly neighborhood snowball fight.

You need to go ask for your money back from this “training”...

Everyone I've ever met worth their spit as a fighter never had to brag about their belt..

(11-08-2017 08:58 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  Everyone I've ever met worth their spit as a fighter never had to brag about their belt..

Just about every time I've heard someone brag about a karate belt it's been followed shortly thereafter by them getting their ass handed to them.

(11-07-2017 10:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  The only time I have ever been in a position to be physically assaulted by a woman was one night on a medical call where a drugged out street whore passed out in front of McDonalds. We were doing basic assessment on her when she awoke and started swinging at us, striking me and two others on my crew. Considering the fact that she weighed maybe 120lbs soaking wet (and she was because she had pissed all over herself) and the smallest member of our crew was pushing 200lbs we simply smothered her until law enforcement arrived and restrained her.

Other than that I don't make it a habit of putting myself in situations where females desire to assault me. I hate to be repetitive in multiple posts but if you have it says a lot about you and your character.

However I can say that if a woman was physically assaulting me and the easiest and safest way for me to defuse the situation would be to give her a right cross in the mouth would I do it? Yes I would. My physical safety is more important to me than some outdated and misguided sense of chivalry. I've had to pick up the pieces from far too many times where a man was seriously injured by a woman that he refused to defend himself because of "you don't hit girls."

I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

Lol.

That is total and complete bunk.

No one said “gouge his eye out”, do you not recall the Pro O-lineman losing his eye, or at least his vision from the refs beanbag that hit him in the eye, THROUGH his face mask?

Ended his career, was awarded significant damages cause of it.

My kid was touch iand go with losing an eye after taking an iceball to the face in what was supposed to be friendly neighborhood snowball fight.

You need to go ask for your money back from this “training”...

In both instances that you mention, you are talking about a projectile being thrown at the eye. This is far different than when someone attempts to scratch your eye. If you go back to what I said, I believe I said that she could not have done anything to his eye unless she had something in her hand i. e. projectile.

(11-08-2017 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 01:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I have never been hit by a woman and I have never hit a woman.

I am glad to hear how you handled the situation you described. You assessed the threat and handled it accordingly.

IMHO, the officer in the video did not assess the situation as well as you did in your encounter.

That's all I'm saying.

And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

Lol.

That is total and complete bunk.

No one said “gouge his eye out”, do you not recall the Pro O-lineman losing his eye, or at least his vision from the refs beanbag that hit him in the eye, THROUGH his face mask?

Ended his career, was awarded significant damages cause of it.

My kid was touch iand go with losing an eye after taking an iceball to the face in what was supposed to be friendly neighborhood snowball fight.

You need to go ask for your money back from this “training”...

In both instances that you mention, you are talking about a projectile being thrown at the eye. This is far different than when someone attempts to scratch your eye. If you go back to what I said, I believe I said that she could not have done anything to his eye unless she had something in her hand i. e. projectile.

You are absolutely clueless. Pigheaded and clueless.

She didn't have to attempt to scratch his eye to injure it. If during the swing he fingernail touched the eye it was going to injure it, intentional or not, because of the force she was swinging with and the fact that fingernails, especially female fingernails, tend to be sharp.

(11-08-2017 11:05 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 10:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-07-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  And that's your uneducated, admitted biased against law enforcement opinion.

That's all I'm saying.

As has already been pointed out she could have permanently handicapped the officer on the next swing. It doesn't matter that she didn't actually poke his eye out the first two swings, the opportunity was there as was the intent to do harm.

Actually, I am educated in this matter because I am a second degree black belt and have practiced eye raking many times.

It is humanly impossible to gouge someone's eye out from the angle that se was which was above him.

The only way you can scratch someone's eye is by bringing your fingers from the sides horizontally. You can't do it from top to bottom or from the bottom up.

Her only chance would have been to grab his head and jam her finger into his eye. That would be difficult since he doesn't have hair.

If the guy had some self defense training he would have known that it was physically impossible for her to hurt him from that angle.

Lol.

That is total and complete bunk.

No one said “gouge his eye out”, do you not recall the Pro O-lineman losing his eye, or at least his vision from the refs beanbag that hit him in the eye, THROUGH his face mask?

Ended his career, was awarded significant damages cause of it.

My kid was touch iand go with losing an eye after taking an iceball to the face in what was supposed to be friendly neighborhood snowball fight.

You need to go ask for your money back from this “training”...

In both instances that you mention, you are talking about a projectile being thrown at the eye. This is far different than when someone attempts to scratch your eye. If you go back to what I said, I believe I said that she could not have done anything to his eye unless she had something in her hand i. e. projectile.

You are absolutely clueless. Pigheaded and clueless.

She didn't have to attempt to scratch his eye to injure it. If during the swing he fingernail touched the eye it was going to injure it, intentional or not, because of the force she was swinging with and the fact that fingernails, especially female fingernails, tend to be sharp.

I'm sorry but you just don't understand the science behind what is happening.

Even if she was not attempting to scratch the eye, she could not have done it because she was above the person. An eye cannot be scratched from the top because the brow protects it and the eye will quickly close to protect it. It's a reflex.

If you don't believe me, test it on a willing participant. Believe me, we have done it extensively.

(11-08-2017 11:05 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  In both instances that you mention, you are talking about a projectile being thrown at the eye. This is far different than when someone attempts to scratch your eye. If you go back to what I said, I believe I said that she could not have done anything to his eye unless she had something in her hand i. e. projectile.

You are absolutely clueless. Pigheaded and clueless.

She didn't have to attempt to scratch his eye to injure it. If during the swing he fingernail touched the eye it was going to injure it, intentional or not, because of the force she was swinging with and the fact that fingernails, especially female fingernails, tend to be sharp.

Look she didn't have a blackbelt from FIT's dojo... There is no way she could have hurt him, why is this so hard for you to understand..