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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
(10-22-2017 09:28 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  
(10-22-2017 03:47 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  In nearly every case I think firing a coach mid-season is a dumb idea.

The exception is when a team has obviously packed it in for the year and I think getting rolled by an 0-6 team is pretty good evidence a team has packed it in.

Congrats to Southern, you guys have a proud history and time to be looking forward to the next chapter. Glad we were able to help out. Both teams need the games results on Saturday. Hoping we can make a respectable showing against App State.

Congrats again to GS.

Thanks for being the final straw that tipped the scales
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
Must be nice to have an athletic department that gives a damn about winning. Our athletic director couldn't care less as long as we provide a quality scandal free student athlete experience.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
Spill it, football scoop.

https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status...3436049408

Some guy on our board posted this during the game yesterday (have no idea how true this all is).

Quote:He was sponsored by his mother-in-law. She, along with some other "Insiders" put up part of the contract money, along with incentives for TK. If you don't believe it, PM me and I will supply details. Unfortunately, he will not be gone until sometime after this season. Others wanted to hire Dell, but got overruled via donation money and guarantees. Summers knew his goose was cooked after his mother-in-law's passing. He was going to be here as long as she was around to have his back.

They took pity on poor little Tyson and his "Unfortunate" past and sought to make a wrong into a right. He was in no way prepared for this, but "Deserved a chance.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
Unfortunately, I think Houston will be making more than what Ga Southern will be willing to pay.

Jobs likely coming open
Nebraska
Arkansas
Tennessee
Missouri

Coaches that may move from P5 to bigger P5
Dino Babers
Dave Clawson

G5 Coaches likely moving to P5
Frost at UCF
Norvell Memphis

Houston will probably be a hot name for one of these openings after coaches are lured away. I think if Clawson is taken from Wake, look for Houston to be a top candidate.

The Kennasaw Coach looks like the best option from what I read from the article. Hope you all get a good hire, you all deserve it.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
(10-22-2017 03:36 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(10-22-2017 02:57 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  Has Mark Speir ever shown interest or been considered? I would likely not be conducive to your TO addiction.

Why in the world would Ga Southern want Mark Speir? He's 25-40 in 5 1/2 years at WCU.

And you know why that is as WCUs biggest rival for years. Briggs and Wagner absolutle destryed anything WCU had. It was a complete rebuild that is paying off this year, WCU is 4-2 and #21 in the nation right now. They will most likely also be 6-2 heading into the Furman game on Oct 28, their next 2 games are 3-3 ETSU and 0-6 VMI.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
(10-22-2017 11:12 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  
(10-22-2017 03:36 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(10-22-2017 02:57 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  Has Mark Speir ever shown interest or been considered? I would likely not be conducive to your TO addiction.

Why in the world would Ga Southern want Mark Speir? He's 25-40 in 5 1/2 years at WCU.

And you know why that is as WCUs biggest rival for years. Briggs and Wagner absolutle destryed anything WCU had. It was a complete rebuild that is paying off this year, WCU is 4-2 and #21 in the nation right now. They will most likely also be 6-2 heading into the Furman game on Oct 28, their next 2 games are 3-3 ETSU and 0-6 VMI.
I don't want to diverge this thread lol but they've already played those two games they are 6-2. If not, that means they have three games in the span of 6 days considering today is October 22nd.

Basically, can you pass me some of whatever you are on right now?
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
(10-22-2017 10:05 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Unfortunately, I think Houston will be making more than what Ga Southern will be willing to pay.

Jobs likely coming open
Nebraska
Arkansas
Tennessee
Missouri

Coaches that may move from P5 to bigger P5
Dino Babers
Dave Clawson

G5 Coaches likely moving to P5
Frost at UCF
Norvell Memphis

Houston will probably be a hot name for one of these openings after coaches are lured away. I think if Clawson is taken from Wake, look for Houston to be a top candidate.

The Kennasaw Coach looks like the best option from what I read from the article. Hope you all get a good hire, you all deserve it.

Have you seen Brett Bielema's buyout?

Arkansas is stuck with him for a very long time. A Long, joyous occasion for those of us on the opposite end of the state who take pride in their failure.
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(10-22-2017 09:05 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  
(10-22-2017 08:03 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  http://www.forgotten5.com/2017/10/20/who...ead-coach/

My short list.

Doug Ruse hmmmm. stAte fans would do a double take with that. OC for Steve Roberts that took a lot of flack from us. I am not sure he deserved it so much as our HC seemed to be so conservative and put the clamps down. It seems he has done well since he left here.

Ruse got a bad rap. I think it was obvious Roberts was tossing pages from the playbook as the season progressed, we got simpler and more reliant on defense rather than gambling on offense like we would see early on.
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(10-22-2017 02:37 PM)USAJag2011 Wrote:  Congrats?

? Lol the man just got us blown out by an 0-6 team bye felicia
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(10-22-2017 03:36 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  
(10-22-2017 02:57 PM)troutbummike Wrote:  Has Mark Speir ever shown interest or been considered? I would likely not be conducive to your TO addiction.

Why in the world would Ga Southern want Mark Speir? He's 25-40 in 5 1/2 years at WCU.

We have sone really dumb fans with some of the names they mention. Some are dumb and think we only win with the flex and some are just dumb and think position coaches are legit FBS candidates cause you know that one game where they wore a head set while the OC and DC called the game.
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(10-22-2017 04:56 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  Both Summers and Satterfield were 5-13 in their first 18 games as head coach.

We were going backwards you were not.

This for good or bad is the GS fanbase we will never put up with losing past one season period. Win or be fired we are not asking to go undefeated like in the FCS I doubt any coach that does not hit 8 wins every year will make it very long either.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
Houston will make about $450-475k @ JMU this year if he repeats. $375k is the base, plus all the usual benefits (cars, counrty club, etc).

He also has retention bonuses built in that kick in after this year. "If Houston stays at Madison for three seasons, he is entitled to a $75,000 bonus. After his fourth season, Houston would receive an additional $93,750, and if he completes the duration of his contract, he would receive another $81,250."

So, Houston's total package balloons out to about $550-$600k total with incentives over the next couple of years.

I mention this only to point out that he is compensated pretty well at JMU. If he continues crushing it at JMU, he will have multiple opportunities @ jobs higher up the pecking order. Nature of the beast.
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(10-23-2017 06:42 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Houston will make about $450-475k @ JMU this year if he repeats. $375k is the base, plus all the usual benefits (cars, counrty club, etc).

He also has retention bonuses built in that kick in after this year. "If Houston stays at Madison for three seasons, he is entitled to a $75,000 bonus. After his fourth season, Houston would receive an additional $93,750, and if he completes the duration of his contract, he would receive another $81,250."

So, Houston's total package balloons out to about $550-$600k total with incentives over the next couple of years.

I mention this only to point out that he is compensated pretty well at JMU. If he continues crushing it at JMU, he will have multiple opportunities @ jobs higher up the pecking order. Nature of the beast.


Good points. I saw someone estimate his price tag at $400,000 but I bet it’s more like $750,000.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
(10-23-2017 06:42 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Houston will make about $450-475k @ JMU this year if he repeats. $375k is the base, plus all the usual benefits (cars, counrty club, etc).

He also has retention bonuses built in that kick in after this year. "If Houston stays at Madison for three seasons, he is entitled to a $75,000 bonus. After his fourth season, Houston would receive an additional $93,750, and if he completes the duration of his contract, he would receive another $81,250."

So, Houston's total package balloons out to about $550-$600k total with incentives over the next couple of years.

I mention this only to point out that he is compensated pretty well at JMU. If he continues crushing it at JMU, he will have multiple opportunities @ jobs higher up the pecking order. Nature of the beast.

Yes you are correct. Everyone is throwing around pretty lavish names right now and I keep saying that we’re working with a pretty limited budget. Tyson Summers’ base salary was 500k. Obviously he never saw any of his added incentives but I believe Fritz with his fully realized contract was making around 750k. Could we raise Mike Houston’s pay grade? Yes. Are we prepared to get into a bidding war with another school for him? Absolutely not.
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(10-23-2017 06:42 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Houston will make about $450-475k @ JMU this year if he repeats. $375k is the base, plus all the usual benefits (cars, counrty club, etc).

He also has retention bonuses built in that kick in after this year. "If Houston stays at Madison for three seasons, he is entitled to a $75,000 bonus. After his fourth season, Houston would receive an additional $93,750, and if he completes the duration of his contract, he would receive another $81,250."

So, Houston's total package balloons out to about $550-$600k total with incentives over the next couple of years.

I mention this only to point out that he is compensated pretty well at JMU. If he continues crushing it at JMU, he will have multiple opportunities @ jobs higher up the pecking order. Nature of the beast.

The last coach y'all sent to the Sun Belt sucks big time.
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(10-23-2017 08:39 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-23-2017 06:42 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Houston will make about $450-475k @ JMU this year if he repeats. $375k is the base, plus all the usual benefits (cars, counrty club, etc).

He also has retention bonuses built in that kick in after this year. "If Houston stays at Madison for three seasons, he is entitled to a $75,000 bonus. After his fourth season, Houston would receive an additional $93,750, and if he completes the duration of his contract, he would receive another $81,250."

So, Houston's total package balloons out to about $550-$600k total with incentives over the next couple of years.

I mention this only to point out that he is compensated pretty well at JMU. If he continues crushing it at JMU, he will have multiple opportunities @ jobs higher up the pecking order. Nature of the beast.

The last coach y'all sent to the Sun Belt sucks big time.

Withers does suck. He inherited a loaded roster from Matthews and added Vad Lee....won the games he should and lost against anybody with a winning record. He claimed JMU had a HUGE rebuilding job and ran off a lot of players. Houston comes in and wins an NC without Lee.

He is a promoter/recruiter, not a coach. He claims the current roster sucks, and says the team is "young" forever. I imagine he has followed the same script at Texas State. Then add on the arrogance....

Rumors abound @ JMU that he had burned bridges behind the scenes and might not have been extended. I'd never seen an AD smile at a press conference to announce a coach being hired away until then.
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RE: Tyson Summers Fired
(10-23-2017 08:39 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-23-2017 06:42 AM)JMU2004 Wrote:  Houston will make about $450-475k @ JMU this year if he repeats. $375k is the base, plus all the usual benefits (cars, counrty club, etc).

He also has retention bonuses built in that kick in after this year. "If Houston stays at Madison for three seasons, he is entitled to a $75,000 bonus. After his fourth season, Houston would receive an additional $93,750, and if he completes the duration of his contract, he would receive another $81,250."

So, Houston's total package balloons out to about $550-$600k total with incentives over the next couple of years.

I mention this only to point out that he is compensated pretty well at JMU. If he continues crushing it at JMU, he will have multiple opportunities @ jobs higher up the pecking order. Nature of the beast.

The last coach y'all sent to the Sun Belt sucks big time.

They know. They create game threads about us so they can celebrate our losses lol
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how much money will Georgia Southern allocate toward the football staff? $1.2mil? $1.5mil? $2mil? that must figure into who the realistic HC candidates are.
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Stay away!

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(10-23-2017 09:13 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  how much money will Georgia Southern allocate toward the football staff? $1.2mil? $1.5mil? $2mil? that must figure into who the realistic HC candidates are.

According to USA Today Sports, our budget for Tyson Summers and his entire staff was roughly 1.7M
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