(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
You think it would be that easy huh? Just drop football and you would own?
We've built our name on the backs of programs with athletic budgets that triple ours.
We're an awesome basketball club right now, that's all that needs to be said. UCONN and Memphis have plenty of cash allocated for basketball and we're gonna roll them like a cannoli this year. The same happened to Indiana, Arizona, Kansas, Ohio St., Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Utah, Tennessee, Alabama, Pittsburgh, Gonzaga, etc., etc., etc...
If it were as easy as just spending, the richest schools in the country would be tops in everything - that isn't so. Money is important, but so is the right coach, your recruiting philosophy (do you bring in good kids or thugs), your facilities, your fanbase, and maybe most importantly... your luck.
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^^^ Alabama? Why must you always tout wins vs Power conference dregs?
I’m still having a hard time finding WSU posters saying that the Valley was equal to the AAC.
Such a strange phenomena.
The reason said strange phenomena keeps occurring is because much of the AAC membership really aren't sure how they'd fare against the MVC most years on a neutral court. Conference power rankings say it would be fairly close. This is unnerving as the AAC has superior brands to the MVC.
Most people (especially the media) simply do not want to admit that there is much parity in college basketball and the difference between a win or a loss comes down to effort.
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
You think it would be that easy huh? Just drop football and you would own?
We've built our name on the backs of programs with athletic budgets that triple ours.
We're an awesome basketball club right now, that's all that needs to be said. UCONN and Memphis have plenty of cash allocated for basketball and we're gonna roll them like a cannoli this year. The same happened to Indiana, Arizona, Kansas, Ohio St., Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Utah, Tennessee, Alabama, Pittsburgh, Gonzaga, etc., etc., etc...
If it were as easy as just spending, the richest schools in the country would be tops in everything - that isn't so. Money is important, but so is the right coach, your recruiting philosophy (do you bring in good kids or thugs), your facilities, your fanbase, and maybe most importantly... your luck.
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^^^ Alabama? Why must you always tout wins vs Power conference dregs?
Try to follow along young pup. The antagonist inferred that winning basketball is all about money. Alabama has more money than God right? Now hushhhhh
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
You think it would be that easy huh? Just drop football and you would own?
We've built our name on the backs of programs with athletic budgets that triple ours.
We're an awesome basketball club right now, that's all that needs to be said. UCONN and Memphis have plenty of cash allocated for basketball and we're gonna roll them like a cannoli this year. The same happened to Indiana, Arizona, Kansas, Ohio St., Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Utah, Tennessee, Alabama, Pittsburgh, Gonzaga, etc., etc., etc...
If it were as easy as just spending, the richest schools in the country would be tops in everything - that isn't so. Money is important, but so is the right coach, your recruiting philosophy (do you bring in good kids or thugs), your facilities, your fanbase, and maybe most importantly... your luck.
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^^^ Alabama? Why must you always tout wins vs Power conference dregs?
Try to follow along young pup. The antagonist inferred that winning basketball is all about money. Alabama has more money than God right? Now hushhhhh
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LOL. Bama doesn't spend their money on basketball...just like every other SEC school not named Kentucky/Florida.
(09-07-2017 01:09 PM)MemTGRS Wrote: The A-10 schools released their full schedules yesterday. I'm getting impatient for all of ours to be announced.
I am especially crossing my fingers that the Shockers visit to Greenville will be on a Sat or Sun.
the ECU/WSU game has been announced as an ESPN (main channel) game. There should be thousands (hundreds by the end of the game) of excited sports fans watching that barn burner.
Back to the thread subject. Shamet is in normal shoes and in the gym shooting free throws (no jump shots yet). He reports he's feeling great.
On schedule to be cleared for full contact right around the start of the season. Misses all of fall practice. Won't be 100% for exempt tourney in Maui. Best competition in Maui is Notre Dame.
If Shamet is cleared by the start of the season, and we can't beat Notre Dame (best opponent in Maui) with Shamet somewhere below 100%, then we don't deserve our pre-season love.
ECU may be a dumpster fire of a basketball program, but we always manage to beat someone at home when they least expect it. Ask Cincy and UCONN and Memphis and even Louisville and Marquette and NC State. They where suppose to roll through us also and did not happen. Wish you guys luck this season and hope you guy gets back on the court quickly.
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
You think it would be that easy huh? Just drop football and you would own?
We've built our name on the backs of programs with athletic budgets that triple ours.
We're an awesome basketball club right now, that's all that needs to be said. UCONN and Memphis have plenty of cash allocated for basketball and we're gonna roll them like a cannoli this year. The same happened to Indiana, Arizona, Kansas, Ohio St., Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Utah, Tennessee, Alabama, Pittsburgh, Gonzaga, etc., etc., etc...
If it were as easy as just spending, the richest schools in the country would be tops in everything - that isn't so. Money is important, but so is the right coach, your recruiting philosophy (do you bring in good kids or thugs), your facilities, your fanbase, and maybe most importantly... your luck.
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^^^ Alabama? Why must you always tout wins vs Power conference dregs?
Try to follow along young pup. The antagonist inferred that winning basketball is all about money. Alabama has more money than God right? Now hushhhhh
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LOL. Bama doesn't spend their money on basketball...just like every other SEC school not named Kentucky/Florida.
Of course not! That's why they offered Gregg Marshall 13 billion to come coach for them and why they currently pay Avery Johnson $3M. Now
Quote:The Alabama men's basketball program had a surplus of $8.2 million in 2013-14 while the women's program had a deficit of $2.3 million. The other sports combined lost a total of $11.3 million and non-program specific expenses out-paced revenues by $23.9 million including money transferred back to the university.
The men's basketball surplus grew to $8.2 million from $5.8 million behind growth from the media rights. Ticket sales dipped to $1.4 million in 2013-14 from $1.84 million the year before. Total revenue for men's basketball was $14.7 million.
I’m still having a hard time finding WSU posters saying that the Valley was equal to the AAC.
Such a strange phenomena.
The following is from post #541 in this thread:
(10-16-2017 01:56 PM)AndShock Wrote: MVC fans claimed the conference was going to be better every year for about 10 straight years and it never happened. Sorry if I don't immediately buy in to the hype. Actually, SMU went 20-1 last year and I expect us to do worse than that and we're a heck of a lot better than SMU was....
I know it "got old" for Shocker fans to see your BBall team work-out with the “lightweights” in the YMCA Missouri Valley Conference:
Prepare for combat in the "American" gym:
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2017 11:57 AM by Underdog.)
(10-18-2017 10:40 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote: You think it would be that easy huh? Just drop football and you would own?
We've built our name on the backs of programs with athletic budgets that triple ours.
We're an awesome basketball club right now, that's all that needs to be said. UCONN and Memphis have plenty of cash allocated for basketball and we're gonna roll them like a cannoli this year. The same happened to Indiana, Arizona, Kansas, Ohio St., Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Utah, Tennessee, Alabama, Pittsburgh, Gonzaga, etc., etc., etc...
If it were as easy as just spending, the richest schools in the country would be tops in everything - that isn't so. Money is important, but so is the right coach, your recruiting philosophy (do you bring in good kids or thugs), your facilities, your fanbase, and maybe most importantly... your luck.
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^^^ Alabama? Why must you always tout wins vs Power conference dregs?
Try to follow along young pup. The antagonist inferred that winning basketball is all about money. Alabama has more money than God right? Now hushhhhh
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LOL. Bama doesn't spend their money on basketball...just like every other SEC school not named Kentucky/Florida.
Of course not! That's why they offered Gregg Marshall 13 billion to come coach for them and why they currently pay Avery Johnson $3M. Now
Quote:The Alabama men's basketball program had a surplus of $8.2 million in 2013-14 while the women's program had a deficit of $2.3 million. The other sports combined lost a total of $11.3 million and non-program specific expenses out-paced revenues by $23.9 million including money transferred back to the university.
The men's basketball surplus grew to $8.2 million from $5.8 million behind growth from the media rights. Ticket sales dipped to $1.4 million in 2013-14 from $1.84 million the year before. Total revenue for men's basketball was $14.7 million.
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Keep reaching. The point remains the same. Touting a win over Bama basketball is like touting a win over UCONN football. Congrats, I guess...? LOL.
I’m still having a hard time finding WSU posters saying that the Valley was equal to the AAC.
Such a strange phenomena.
The following is from post #541 in this thread:
(10-16-2017 01:56 PM)AndShock Wrote: MVC fans claimed the conference was going to be better every year for about 10 straight years and it never happened. Sorry if I don't immediately buy in to the hype. Actually, SMU went 20-1 last year and I expect us to do worse than that and we're a heck of a lot better than SMU was....
I know it "got old" for Shocker fans to see your BBall team work-out with the “lightweights” in the YMCA Missouri Valley Conference:
Prepare for combat in the "American" gym:
He posted facts. A team went 20-1 against this league last year and then flamed out in the NCAAs against a play-in team. That is relevant data when so many people want to use WSU's old league to judge them.
Personally, I actually do buy into the hype this year. Temple and UConn had MAJOR injury issues last year, and I think both will be bubble-worthy if they stay healthy this year. Add in top teams in Cincy and UCF that return a lot, a talented SMU, and I see a breakout year for the league.
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2017 12:20 PM by Wudizzle.)
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
The Shocker fans I talk to are not over confident and think that this conference is a very good basketball conference with perhaps as many as 5 NCAA bids (if things go right).
I think that the winner will lose 4-5 games. I think that WSU will win (just as I hear most Cincy fans saying they will win) but it won't be a cake walk, and I have respect for almost all of the teams. I just know how good this team can be if we put it all together and recover from our injuries. I also think that Cincy will earn a very high seed too.
I’m still having a hard time finding WSU posters saying that the Valley was equal to the AAC.
Such a strange phenomena.
The following is from post #541 in this thread:
(10-16-2017 01:56 PM)AndShock Wrote: MVC fans claimed the conference was going to be better every year for about 10 straight years and it never happened. Sorry if I don't immediately buy in to the hype. Actually, SMU went 20-1 last year and I expect us to do worse than that and we're a heck of a lot better than SMU was....
I know it "got old" for Shocker fans to see your BBall team work-out with the “lightweights” in the YMCA Missouri Valley Conference:
Prepare for combat in the "American" gym:
I guess I’m just confused how you can call some fans “overconfident” when that fan’s school is being ranked in everybody’s top 5 and top 10 polls. I guess everybody is just full of it eh?
Quote:The Alabama men's basketball program had a surplus of $8.2 million in 2013-14 while the women's program had a deficit of $2.3 million. The other sports combined lost a total of $11.3 million and non-program specific expenses out-paced revenues by $23.9 million including money transferred back to the university.
The men's basketball surplus grew to $8.2 million from $5.8 million behind growth from the media rights. Ticket sales dipped to $1.4 million in 2013-14 from $1.84 million the year before. Total revenue for men's basketball was $14.7 million.
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Keep reaching. The point remains the same. Touting a win over Bama basketball is like touting a win over UCONN football. Congrats, I guess...? LOL.
Ok, you got him at 1 of the 15 schools he dropped. Congrats.
This is getting ridiculous. I'll summarize everything that's happened right here (with the exception of Cold's trolling):
WSU Fan: I think that we will be really good this year. I'm picking us to win the league.
Fan of Different School: Lol this isn't the MVC. You guys are in a real conference now.
WSU Fan: I never said it was the MVC.... I think that we will have a very good conference.....
Fan of Different School: Then why do you think you're going to win the league so easily?
WSU Fan: I don't, I just think we have a great team and like our changes to win it. A lot of people nationally feel the same.
Fan of Different School: You Hitachi fans are so overconfident. I can't wait until my team goes 2-0 against you this season.
WSU Fan: You have a very good team that could beat us twice, but we could beat you guys twice also. Or we could split. It will be fun to see it play out.
Fan of Different School: You guys are so annoying. You aren't going to go undefeated in this conference. I can't wait until you get a rude awaking this year.
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
You think it would be that easy huh? Just drop football and you would own?
FBS isn’t an acronym that stands for: Football "or" Basketball Schools.
We've built our name on the backs of programs with athletic budgets that triple ours.
You’ve been elevated to a Big Boys’ Conference because we were impressed by your babysitting baskeball skills developed in the MVC Daycare Center.
We're an awesome basketball club right now, that's all that needs to be said….
We’ll find out soon enough....
If it were as easy as just spending, the richest schools in the country would be tops in everything - that isn't so. Money is important, but so is the right coach, your recruiting philosophy (do you bring in good kids or thugs), your facilities, your fanbase, and maybe most importantly... your luck.
I’ll admit that you can’t buy belief, desire, determination, heart, etc... the intangibles…. I hope your star player is 100% soon, which is what this thread is all about despite the enjoyable smack talk.
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(This post was last modified: 10-18-2017 01:52 PM by Underdog.)
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
2014-2017 AAC conference champion NCAA wins: 2 (I'm even allowing for 5 teams in 4 years).
2014-2017 MVC conference champion NCAA wins: 6.
Clearly this conference is preparing teams for the big-time so much better.
Or, perhaps, good teams are good and crappy teams are crappy regardless of conference. There is a difference between over-confidence and being tired of the same, tired, disproven narrative. If not for UConn (props to UConn) this league would have more to be embarrassed about than a WSU-less MVC over the same timeframe.
(10-18-2017 10:19 AM)Underdog Wrote: I like smack talking and overconfident Shocker fans. I hope for the sake of this conference that your BBall team can back it up.... Please keep in mind Shocker fans that if the schools in this conference (excluding Navy) dropped football and put those resources into BBall, WSU would struggle to be a consistent winner in this conference. Despite the aforementioned hypothetical, your BBall team will still find this conference more challenging than the YMCA MVC league that your school babysat played in. Therefore, prepare to be "shocked" as your school discovers that this conference has bigger
2014-2017 AAC conference champion NCAA wins: 2 (I'm even allowing for 5 teams in 4 years).
2014-2017 MVC conference champion NCAA wins: 6.
Clearly this conference is preparing teams for the big-time so much better.
Or, perhaps, good teams are good and crappy teams are crappy regardless of conference. There is a difference between over-confidence and being tired of the same, tired, disproven narrative. If not for UConn (props to UConn) this league would have more to be embarrassed about than a WSU-less MVC over the same timeframe.
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