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The over throws need to be corrected. Anyone who's played have any insight? Looked like they were going where he wanted, as in not a control issue, so could there just be a total break down in chemistry? Or lack of timing I guess

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(10-05-2017 10:13 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  This will certainly be interesting. The matchups scare me a little

Throw out the Navy game with the Triple Option, and the FAU rushing defense has been almost ok. Our rushing offense so far has not been ok. So, our run game may be problematic,

The Owl pass defense has been Swiss Cheese. if the OL can give SW time, and SW and the receivers can get in synch, then we could have a big day in the air.

FAU has two pretty good RBs. Singletary is the beast and Howell is pretty good.
QB Jason Driskel is an efficient passer who won't set the world on fire but can run when necessary. and should be able to hit his TEs

Our defense is better vs the pass, and the FAU offense is better at the run.
Additionally, As I have said in the past, I do not like the matchup with the Owl TE, 6'5" Harrison Bryant. He is big and fast, and could overwhelm our LBs and overpower over our DBs.
If FAU can establish the run to set up their TEs, we could be in for a long day.

Bottom line: If Williams and his receivers are on the same page, and the "dropsies" are minimized, we could roll.

I was concerned a few days ago.
Now I am much more concerned.
The D looked like the D of FCS with it's inability to tackle.
I'll forego a comment here because we had 4 or 5 of our best defensive players out.

Our offense is bad.
Our OLine is very shaky
Steve Williams is not ready to start. I honestly thought he would play well tonight, especially if he had a run game to help; because FAU's pass defense has heretofore been swiss cheese
Our receivers w/o Duhart are, to put nicely, lackluster.

Time to put to rest the "...we didn't look good, but, Albany is a top 25 FCS program, maybe top 10 soon"
Albany has lost to Elon and UR.

I keep hearing; "we have great kids coming along, just give them time.

Look, our best QBs, DeMarco, Heinicke, and Washington were all FCS recruits,
Our best OLinemen, Mewborne, Born, and Morrell were all FCS recruits (or FCS transfers fdrom Hofstra)
Our best receivers (except for Duhart) , Mayers, Vaughan, Pinkard, Pascal were all FCS recruits.
We were an exceptional offense at FCS

We are now well into FBS, and our best offensive, (except fo RB Lawry and maybe Cox), players to this day were FCS; not relatively speaking, but absolutely speaking.

Some of you can bury your head in the sand and continue to defend or deny recruiting issues, but you win with Jimmys and Joes.
I believe that the recruit ranking services that continuously have us at the bottom of CUSA are getting it right.

(10-07-2017 09:28 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 10:13 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  This will certainly be interesting. The matchups scare me a little

Throw out the Navy game with the Triple Option, and the FAU rushing defense has been almost ok. Our rushing offense so far has not been ok. So, our run game may be problematic,

The Owl pass defense has been Swiss Cheese. if the OL can give SW time, and SW and the receivers can get in synch, then we could have a big day in the air.

FAU has two pretty good RBs. Singletary is the beast and Howell is pretty good.
QB Jason Driskel is an efficient passer who won't set the world on fire but can run when necessary. and should be able to hit his TEs

Our defense is better vs the pass, and the FAU offense is better at the run.
Additionally, As I have said in the past, I do not like the matchup with the Owl TE, 6'5" Harrison Bryant. He is big and fast, and could overwhelm our LBs and overpower over our DBs.
If FAU can establish the run to set up their TEs, we could be in for a long day.

Bottom line: If Williams and his receivers are on the same page, and the "dropsies" are minimized, we could roll.

I was concerned a few days ago.
Now I am much more concerned.
The D looked like the D of FCS with it's inability to tackle.
I'll forego a comment here because we had 4 or 5 of our best defensive players out.

Our offense is bad.
Our OLine is very shaky
Steve Williams is not ready to start. I honestly thought he would play well tonight, especially if he had a run game to help; because FAU's pass defense has heretofore been swiss cheese
Our receivers w/o Duhart are, to put nicely, lackluster.

Time to put to rest the "...we didn't look good, but, Albany is a top 25 FCS program, maybe top 10 soon"
Albany has lost to Elon and UR.

I keep hearing; "we have great kids coming along, just give them time.

Look, our best QBs, DeMarco, Heinicke, and Washington were all FCS recruits,
Our best OLinemen, Mewborne, Born, and Morrell were all FCS recruits (or FCS transfers fdrom Hofstra)
Our best receivers (except for Duhart) , Mayers, Vaughan, Pinkard, Pascal were all FCS recruits.
We were an exceptional offense at FCS

We are now well into FBS, and our best offensive, (except fo RB Lawry and maybe Cox), players to this day were FCS; not relatively speaking, but absolutely speaking.

Some of you can bury your head in the sand and continue to defend or deny recruiting issues, but you win with Jimmys and Joes.
I believe that the services that continuously have us at the bottom of CUSA are getting it right.

after witnessing tonights performance I am missing the good ol days

The Monarchs have been and will continue to be my 'root for' team. Having said that, this was probably the worst performance that I have seen, from top to bottom. I thought that the team: (1) was outcoached -- e.g. they ran up tempo and ODU defense was not set on multiple occasions and got blown out, (2) execution looked sloppy -- 2 weeks to prepare and look that pathetic, and (3) didn't think that FAU had better athletes, but they looked in better condition, executed crisply, and finished plays. This is going to be a long year and difficult to watch if they don't shore things up.

(10-07-2017 09:28 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Some of you can bury your head in the sand and continue to defend or deny recruiting issues, but you win with Jimmys and Joes.

I believe that the recruit ranking services that continuously have us at the bottom of CUSA are getting it right.

ODU continues to recruit FCS caliber talent.

(10-07-2017 09:28 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-05-2017 10:13 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  This will certainly be interesting. The matchups scare me a little

Throw out the Navy game with the Triple Option, and the FAU rushing defense has been almost ok. Our rushing offense so far has not been ok. So, our run game may be problematic,

The Owl pass defense has been Swiss Cheese. if the OL can give SW time, and SW and the receivers can get in synch, then we could have a big day in the air.

FAU has two pretty good RBs. Singletary is the beast and Howell is pretty good.
QB Jason Driskel is an efficient passer who won't set the world on fire but can run when necessary. and should be able to hit his TEs

Our defense is better vs the pass, and the FAU offense is better at the run.
Additionally, As I have said in the past, I do not like the matchup with the Owl TE, 6'5" Harrison Bryant. He is big and fast, and could overwhelm our LBs and overpower over our DBs.
If FAU can establish the run to set up their TEs, we could be in for a long day.

Bottom line: If Williams and his receivers are on the same page, and the "dropsies" are minimized, we could roll.

I was concerned a few days ago.
Now I am much more concerned.
The D looked like the D of FCS with it's inability to tackle.
I'll forego a comment here because we had 4 or 5 of our best defensive players out.

Our offense is bad.
Our OLine is very shaky
Steve Williams is not ready to start. I honestly thought he would play well tonight, especially if he had a run game to help; because FAU's pass defense has heretofore been swiss cheese
Our receivers w/o Duhart are, to put nicely, lackluster.

Time to put to rest the "...we didn't look good, but, Albany is a top 25 FCS program, maybe top 10 soon"
Albany has lost to Elon and UR.

I keep hearing; "we have great kids coming along, just give them time.

Look, our best QBs, DeMarco, Heinicke, and Washington were all FCS recruits,
Our best OLinemen, Mewborne, Born, and Morrell were all FCS recruits (or FCS transfers fdrom Hofstra)
Our best receivers (except for Duhart) , Mayers, Vaughan, Pinkard, Pascal were all FCS recruits.
We were an exceptional offense at FCS

We are now well into FBS, and our best offensive, (except fo RB Lawry and maybe Cox), players to this day were FCS; not relatively speaking, but absolutely speaking.

Some of you can bury your head in the sand and continue to defend or deny recruiting issues, but you win with Jimmys and Joes.
I believe that the recruit ranking services that continuously have us at the bottom of CUSA are getting it right.

+1 just what i wanted to say and well i need to add the Coaching part. It was a crap job from every single one of ours. These are mediocre FCS coaches and it showed very well to night. No freaking adjustments and no clue as to how to react to what's happening on the field and we gave these clowns multi year contracts.

(10-07-2017 10:54 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 09:28 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Some of you can bury your head in the sand and continue to defend or deny recruiting issues, but you win with Jimmys and Joes.

I believe that the recruit ranking services that continuously have us at the bottom of CUSA are getting it right.

ODU continues to recruit FCS caliber talent.

This does seem to be the case. It makes sense as BW has evaluated talent at that level exclusively for so long. I do think this team would be top 15 in FCS. Probably 2 or 3 in CAA.

(10-07-2017 06:31 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  So here is a new schtick for ya ....FAU has FBS coaches and we have mediocre FCS coaches.

I think this pretty well sums up our current situation.

From the new "stadium", to the football coach to the basketball coach to Wood selig, we wreak of being a small time program.

Aim high is out the window. We just need to aim for the toilet so we don't end up peeing all over the toilet seat instead.

It appears the basketball mentality has finally reached football. I didn't mind the football back when everyone had high expectations, but now that we are accepting this schit, I am losing the bit of interest I had. Onto basketball season. Football needs to be in the CAA.

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(10-07-2017 10:22 PM)blueandsilver Wrote:  The Monarchs have been and will continue to be my 'root for' team. Having said that, this was probably the worst performance that I have seen, from top to bottom. I thought that the team: (1) was outcoached -- e.g. they ran up tempo and ODU defense was not set on multiple occasions and got blown out, (2) execution looked sloppy -- 2 weeks to prepare and look that pathetic, and (3) didn't think that FAU had better athletes, but they looked in better condition, executed crisply, and finished plays. This is going to be a long year and difficult to watch if they don't shore things up.

I'll buy this, with the exception to (3) that FAU has a larger than normal contingent of P5 transfer talent, dismissed from FSU, Pitt, Ole Miss, etc and signed by Kiffin. This does not excuse our poor play.

Sifting through the ashes, I thought Young, Carter, and Meiser (in relief) all looked good. Cox had 200 yds, showing he may be back in form. Nick Rice looked good.

It's fair to suggest a re-calibration of expectations for the season (including my own) is probably necessary. 4-3 over the remaining schedule is not out of reach should all three phases pull it together and ratchet it up just a notch.

Win or lose, color me ODU blue.

(10-08-2017 06:25 PM)Grommet Wrote:  
Win or lose, color me ODU blue.

+1

We just lost to a team that has a logo that looks like a red ***** on their helmets. And they grabbed our ear and made us squeal like a pig.

This is unacceptable.

(10-08-2017 10:04 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  We just lost to a team that has a logo that looks like a red ***** on their helmets. And they grabbed our ear and made us squeal like a pig.

This is unacceptable.

We didn't just lose, we put up no fight and got taken to the woodshed. Metaphorically, we got cucked.

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(10-07-2017 11:28 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 06:31 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  So here is a new schtick for ya ....FAU has FBS coaches and we have mediocre FCS coaches.

I think this pretty well sums up our current situation.

I actually think the coaches evaluation of talent is what we are doing poorly on the defensive side of the ball. Coaches should evaluate tackling ability at the high school level. Tackling technique can not be all of a sudden learned at the D1 level. Just like anything else, when the pressure is on you go back to your old way of doing things which may bring down a 165 lb running back in high school but it won't work on a 190 lb back.

(10-09-2017 04:37 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 11:28 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 06:31 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  So here is a new schtick for ya ....FAU has FBS coaches and we have mediocre FCS coaches.

I think this pretty well sums up our current situation.

I actually think the coaches evaluation of talent is what we are doing poorly on the defensive side of the ball. Coaches should evaluate tackling ability at the high school level. Tackling technique can not be all of a sudden learned at the D1 level. Just like anything else, when the pressure is on you go back to your old way of doing things which may bring down a 165 lb running back in high school but it won't work on a 190 lb back.

I don't buy that you can't teach tackling at this level. JPP only played one year of HS ball. He learned most of his techniques in college. If I were Wilder I'd have the defense doing tackling drills this week. Get it into their heads to wrap up and take down. If it is reinforced they will remember and execute on game day.

(10-09-2017 06:06 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 04:37 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 11:28 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 06:31 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  So here is a new schtick for ya ....FAU has FBS coaches and we have mediocre FCS coaches.

I think this pretty well sums up our current situation.

I actually think the coaches evaluation of talent is what we are doing poorly on the defensive side of the ball. Coaches should evaluate tackling ability at the high school level. Tackling technique can not be all of a sudden learned at the D1 level. Just like anything else, when the pressure is on you go back to your old way of doing things which may bring down a 165 lb running back in high school but it won't work on a 190 lb back.

I don't buy that you can't teach tackling at this level. JPP only played one year of HS ball. He learned most of his techniques in college. If I were Wilder I'd have the defense doing tackling drills this week. Get it into their heads to wrap up and take down. If it is reinforced they will remember and execute on game day.

It sounded as if that was the plan on Wake-Up with Wilder

(10-09-2017 06:06 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 04:37 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 11:28 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  

(10-07-2017 06:31 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  So here is a new schtick for ya ....FAU has FBS coaches and we have mediocre FCS coaches.

I think this pretty well sums up our current situation.

I actually think the coaches evaluation of talent is what we are doing poorly on the defensive side of the ball. Coaches should evaluate tackling ability at the high school level. Tackling technique can not be all of a sudden learned at the D1 level. Just like anything else, when the pressure is on you go back to your old way of doing things which may bring down a 165 lb running back in high school but it won't work on a 190 lb back.

I don't buy that you can't teach tackling at this level. JPP only played one year of HS ball. He learned most of his techniques in college. If I were Wilder I'd have the defense doing tackling drills this week. Get it into their heads to wrap up and take down. If it is reinforced they will remember and execute on game day.

That actually is kind of my point. He didn't have 10 years of tackling incorrectly because he was bigger than everyone else and could get away with it. Only playing 1 year made it probably easier for him to change. Just my opinion.

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Embarrassing loss, but have had a couple days to digest. Terrible game, **** happens, lets see how they respond on the road vs. one of the better CUSA teams.

I predicted a loss bc FAU is a bit of a matchup issue for us.....they run great and force you to methodically move down field thru the air.

Williams played like a talented 17 year old freshman. I think he gets impatient at times, but it seems to me part of the problem is there is nothing open underneath so he tries balls further down the field. I think we need to find more ways to get Harper the ball in space. He's going to be a good one, but we are going to have to struggle through this year.

Cox looked healthy and the OL played better. Very happy with the run game. Cox looked like last years version of him. Ran hard.

Vaughn looked great. The lost weight really helped him and i think a fully healthy WR core would have been pretty good this year with Vaughn/Duhart/Fulgham. Shame we never got that chance. Fulgham needs to step up and the none of the young guys have done much to this point.

Offense did ok, not poor, not great. They will have a tougher test next week.

Defense..............YIKES.

Our DL is great at rushing the passer and getting upfield, but man they are terrible at maintaining gaps. There are 2 keys in stopping the run; maintain gap integrity and tackle. We didn't do either. The blame is certainly spread around, but our DL has to keep the OL from getting to the next level. On 3rd down, our DE's would get too far upfield and the OL would have free reign to engage the LBs (who didn't shed blocks well) and our secondary tackled like trash. I had high hopes for our safeties, but that is as poor a tackling effort as I can remember. Those guys get out of place and the make half ass tackling efforts because they are either too slow or out of place. 3rd down defense absolutely killed us.

Pass defense continues to be a strength. Gave up a couple 3rd down passes, but played well.

Don't know the answer on defense. I'm fine with the 4-2-5 but the in the box safety has to be able to tackle and our has not been able to do so. Do we have another guy that can do it? Probably not or he would be in the game. This defense has made progress over the past 2 years, but this has clearly been a regression. Converting so many 3rd and longs on the ground is extremely frustrating.

We got better as the season went along last year so I hope that happens again. Run defense better get figured out soon, obviously. Like to see more safe throws/screen from Williams....get his confidence up.