Florida would be terrifying if they had even a mediocre offense.

(09-16-2017 04:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 03:57 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I move that Kansas and Rutgers be demoted from the "G5 beats P5 always" rule

Kansas has a multi-million dollar annual advantage JUST from conference affiliation. It is *always* laughable if you have such a huge advantage and squander it.

It is STILL Kansas and Rutgers, and we are not talking Basketball(Women's BB for Rutgers)

(09-16-2017 04:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Purdue 28
Missouri 0

Purdue has quitely gotten much better, while Mizzou's program has collapsed.

This I agree with

(09-16-2017 04:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Florida 6
Tennessee 3

Battle of mutual ineptitude. How can two blue bloods with infinite resources and fan bases be so dull and lifeless?

Tennessee is NOT a Football Power(Consistently) and you know it

I expect Florida to be a bit rusty post-Irma.

(09-16-2017 05:12 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 04:26 PM)smytiger Wrote:  Why is Memphis beating UCLA a laughable score? Memphis is probably better than 75% of your so called Power 5 teams.

G5 over P5 unless that G5 is ranked
Very unranked over ranked

It hit two of the criteria. You should go read the week 1 thread where I list the criteria.

I have read the criteria, based on results the last 3 seasons Memphis beating UCLA is not that laughable. But if that is the criteria so be it. Go Tigers, AAC #P6!!

UT vs Fla is pretty laughable not by score but by play.

How many ****ing rabbits feet does Butch Jones has jammed up his *** to get THIS MANY critical fumbles of imminent touchdowns which then quickly become touchdowns the other way? Not that I'm bitter. But maybe I am.

Tulane 14
#2 Oklahoma 7
4:00 1st


Only other laughable action is Purdue further hurting the Vegas spread on Missouri. #PoliticalKarma

Is Iowa that bad? Usually other teams beat North Texas by more margin of the points. Right now Iowa is up by 10.

(09-16-2017 05:11 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 04:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Florida 6
Tennessee 3

Battle of mutual ineptitude. How can two blue bloods with infinite resources and fan bases be so dull and lifeless?

Incompetent coaching. A lot of top CFB programs are run by gym teachers. Peter Principle in full effect.

Of course as soon as i say that, the offenses get in gear and it becomes an exciting game, ending on a 65 yard Hail Mary for the ages, LOL. Doh!

(09-16-2017 05:16 PM)lance99 Wrote:  Tennessee is NOT a Football Power(Consistently) and you know it

Seriously? Look, nobody wins all the time. Notre Dame hasn't won anything in 25 years. Even Alabama went 15 years between the early 90s and Saban without winning anything. I'm no Volunteers fans, but Tennessee ...

... has been playing football for 122 seasons.

... average attendance approaches 100,000, usually in the top 10 or top 5.

... has won 3 consensus national titles, and 3 more shared ones.

.... has won 16 Southern/SEC titles.

... has won over 800 games, 9th most all time.

... has been to 52 bowl games, 3rd most all time. Just think about that - more than a half a century of bowl games!

... has won 28 bowl games, 6th most all time.

... Vols alumni have played more than 18,000 games in the NFL, 7th all time.

No, they aren't Alabama or Notre Dame, but by any reasonable standard, they are an all-time football power, around 10th-12th all time.

(09-16-2017 05:16 PM)lance99 Wrote:  Tennessee is NOT a Football Power(Consistently) and you know it

AS TO WHETHER TENNESSEE IS A FOOTBALL POWER...

(09-16-2017 06:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm no Volunteers fans, but Tennessee ...

... has been playing football for 122 seasons. MARGINALLY RELEVANT

... average attendance approaches 100,000, usually in the top 10 or top 5. IRRELEVANT - LOTS OF FANS DON'T MAKE YOUR TEAM GOOD

... has won 3 consensus national titles, and 3 more shared ones. RELEVANT, BUT HOW LONG AGO? KEEP IN MIND, PITT HAS LIKE 11 NATIONAL TITLES, BUT...

.... has won 16 Southern/SEC titles. RELEVANT, BUT HOW LONG AGO?

... has won over 800 games, 9th most all time. INSUFFICIENT DATA - HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE FCS TEAMS?

... has been to 52 bowl games, 3rd most all time. Just think about that - more than a half a century of bowl games! MARGINALLY RELEVANT. BEFORE THE CURRENT SYSTEM, INVITATION TO BOWLS HAD MORE TO DO WITH ATTENDANCE THAN THE QUALITY OF THE TEAM.

... has won 28 bowl games, 6th most all time. WHICH IS 53.8%

... Vols alumni have played more than 18,000 games in the NFL, 9th all time. SOMEWHAT RELEVANT.

No, they aren't Alabama or Notre Dame, but who else is? By any reasonable standard, they are an all-time football power, around 10th-12th all time.

I WOULD SAY THAT TENNESSEE WAS A FOOTBALL POWER, BUT HAVE DECLINED A LOT.

Tennessee is a power by any standard, even if currently down.

(09-16-2017 06:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 05:16 PM)lance99 Wrote:  Tennessee is NOT a Football Power(Consistently) and you know it

AS TO WHETHER TENNESSEE IS A FOOTBALL POWER...

(09-16-2017 06:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm no Volunteers fans, but Tennessee ...

... has been playing football for 122 seasons. MARGINALLY RELEVANT

... average attendance approaches 100,000, usually in the top 10 or top 5. IRRELEVANT - LOTS OF FANS DON'T MAKE YOUR TEAM GOOD

BUT IT DOES INDICATE POWER STATUS, THE ISSUE HERE.

... has won 3 consensus national titles, and 3 more shared ones. RELEVANT, BUT HOW LONG AGO? KEEP IN MIND, PITT HAS LIKE 11 NATIONAL TITLES, BUT...

.... has won 16 Southern/SEC titles. RELEVANT, BUT HOW LONG AGO?

WITHIN THE MEMORY OF LIVING PEOPLE, UNLIKE PITT OR PRINCETON.

... has won over 800 games, 9th most all time. INSUFFICIENT DATA - HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE FCS TEAMS?

NO REASON TO THINK ANY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OF THE OTHERS IN THE TOP 10.

... has been to 52 bowl games, 3rd most all time. Just think about that - more than a half a century of bowl games! MARGINALLY RELEVANT. BEFORE THE CURRENT SYSTEM, INVITATION TO BOWLS HAD MORE TO DO WITH ATTENDANCE THAN THE QUALITY OF THE TEAM.

MASSIVELY RELEVANT. BEFORE CURRENT SYSTEM ONLY THE CREAM WENT TO BOWL GAMES, SAVE FOR THE B1G WHICH ALLOWED ONLY ONE TEAM TO GO EACH YEAR UNTIL 1960s. AND AGAIN, ATTENDANCE IS HUGE INDICATOR OF POWER STATUS.

... has won 28 bowl games, 6th most all time. WHICH IS 53.8%

RIGHT, AND BETTER THAN MANY TEAMS. 28 WINS IS 28 WINS.

... Vols alumni have played more than 18,000 games in the NFL, 9th all time. SOMEWHAT RELEVANT.

EXTREMELY RELEVANT, INDICATES CALIBER OF PLAYERS ATTRACTED TO PROGRAM - TOP PLAYERS FAVOR TOP PROGRAMS, TOP PROGRAMS PRODUCE TOP PLAYERS.

No, they aren't Alabama or Notre Dame, but who else is? By any reasonable standard, they are an all-time football power, around 10th-12th all time.

I WOULD SAY THAT TENNESSEE WAS A FOOTBALL POWER, BUT HAVE DECLINED A LOT.

THEY HAVE HAD A ROUGH TIME OF IT IN RECENT YEARS, BUT THAT'S TRUE OF MANY TOP SCHOOLS. THEY ARE PROBABLY AROUND #10-#12 PROGRAM ALL TIME. THAT'S POWER.

Butch is just above mediocre enough to keep his job. He is fast becoming my favorite Tennessee coach of all time, lol. Love watching them squander infinite resources.

Rumors of Butch Jones on the hotseat been around for a couple of years now. With a couple of their players with accusations and accusations of sexual harassment by the football team for number of years? I do think it is hitting them in a big way. Not like Baylor, but may suffer from getting recruits until they start cleaning up their image.

(09-16-2017 07:11 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 06:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  AS TO WHETHER TENNESSEE IS A FOOTBALL POWER...

I'm no Volunteers fans, but Tennessee ...

... has been playing football for 122 seasons. MARGINALLY RELEVANT

... average attendance approaches 100,000, usually in the top 10 or top 5. IRRELEVANT - LOTS OF FANS DON'T MAKE YOUR TEAM GOOD

BUT IT DOES INDICATE POWER STATUS, THE ISSUE HERE.

....

THEY HAVE HAD A ROUGH TIME OF IT IN RECENT YEARS, BUT THAT'S TRUE OF MANY TOP SCHOOLS. THEY ARE PROBABLY AROUND #10-#12 PROGRAM ALL TIME. THAT'S POWER.

WHY ARE WE TALKING IN ALL CAPS AND RANDOM COLORS?

(09-16-2017 06:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 05:16 PM)lance99 Wrote:  Tennessee is NOT a Football Power(Consistently) and you know it

AS TO WHETHER TENNESSEE IS A FOOTBALL POWER...

(09-16-2017 06:17 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I'm no Volunteers fans, but Tennessee ...

... has been playing football for 122 seasons. MARGINALLY RELEVANT

... average attendance approaches 100,000, usually in the top 10 or top 5. IRRELEVANT - LOTS OF FANS DON'T MAKE YOUR TEAM GOOD

... has won 3 consensus national titles, and 3 more shared ones. RELEVANT, BUT HOW LONG AGO? KEEP IN MIND, PITT HAS LIKE 11 NATIONAL TITLES, BUT...

.... has won 16 Southern/SEC titles. RELEVANT, BUT HOW LONG AGO?

... has won over 800 games, 9th most all time. INSUFFICIENT DATA - HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE FCS TEAMS?

... has been to 52 bowl games, 3rd most all time. Just think about that - more than a half a century of bowl games! MARGINALLY RELEVANT. BEFORE THE CURRENT SYSTEM, INVITATION TO BOWLS HAD MORE TO DO WITH ATTENDANCE THAN THE QUALITY OF THE TEAM.

... has won 28 bowl games, 6th most all time. WHICH IS 53.8%

... Vols alumni have played more than 18,000 games in the NFL, 9th all time. SOMEWHAT RELEVANT.

No, they aren't Alabama or Notre Dame, but who else is? By any reasonable standard, they are an all-time football power, around 10th-12th all time.

I WOULD SAY THAT TENNESSEE WAS A FOOTBALL POWER, BUT HAVE DECLINED A LOT.

The Vols are walking thru the same wilderness that Bama did from the time they fired Stallings until they poached Saban

NC A&T 35
Charlotte 31

Charlotte started their football program about 20 years too late. Do it in 1995 and they'd possibly be in the ACC or Big 12.

Idaho St. 30
Nevada 28
Final