(09-06-2017 03:05 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 03:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ca...hurricanes

There have been Category 5 hurricanes since 1960, 12 before the year 2000 and 10 after the year 2000

How dare you shatter such well crafted talking points with something as meaningless as facts!

But you do realize that none of that disproves that climate change impacted Harvey and Irma!

Not saying it did, but you cannot say this means it didn't.

‘God Is Not Mocked’: Jim Bakker Says Hurricane Harvey Is God’s ‘Judgment On America’

(09-06-2017 03:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 03:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ca...hurricanes

There have been 22 Category 5 hurricanes since 1960.
12 before the year 2000
4 from 1960 to 1970
4 from 1971 to 1980
2 from 1981 to 1990
2 from 1990 to 2000.

10 after the year 2000
8 from 2001 to 2010
2 from 2011 to current.

So we did have a spike last decade, but this decade has been fairly normal.

Too early to declare a #fitfail but the "climate change" decade is looking pretty normal on the hurricane front.

My bad. I was looking at data regarding only those that actually made landfall.

Those are the important ones. What is interesting is that some storms are about flood damage, some wind damage, some are about both. Houston generally speaking is built out like a normal city and to get 60 inches of rain is just staggering. If Harvey blew through fast it would not have been that bad. If I ever built a house in some of those caribbean islands it is going to be on stilts. Losing a roof isn't a big deal.

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:16 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 04:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No...nice try...you're suggesting that 3 million people voted illegally. I imagine you have some proof of this, right? Mind sharing it?

I think there's a dossier around here somewhere.

So I'll take that as a no. Thought so. Thanks for confirming.

Nice deflection!

Still waiting for collusion proof.

Wait a sec... I forgot. That's was 3 tries ago at subversion by the left.

Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:16 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 04:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think there's a dossier around here somewhere.

So I'll take that as a no. Thought so. Thanks for confirming.

Nice deflection!

Still waiting for collusion proof.

Wait a sec... I forgot. That's was 3 tries ago at subversion by the left.

Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

1. I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

2. I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

3. The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

4. Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

1. Then don't put forth something that cannot be proven...and one that NO state authority says happened...as a fact. Simple

2. As can I.

3. No, it wasn't. You're taking the right-wing meme of what the left actually says about fraud out of context...and they do this to deflect from reality. What we've ALWAYS said is that while voter fraud occurs, in-person voter fraud does not occur on a large enough scale to effect presidential elections. There is mountains of evidence and studies which back this up.

4. Yes, she did. There has been NO evidence to suggest that the national vote totals were incorrect to the tune of 3 million as trump (and you) seemed to claim. Several states investigated this possibility and concluded it as bunk. And no, I don't really care because that's not how we elect presidents. It's only important when Republicans try to act like trump won some type of mandate due to his rather normal electoral college victory margin.

Keep doing what you're doing. Popular voter fraud winners. Lol

The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency. 

(09-07-2017 09:59 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Keep doing what you're doing. Popular voter fraud winners. Lol

The grand total: a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency. 

Is this post about hurricane Harvey or hurricane Trump?

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:16 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 04:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I think there's a dossier around here somewhere.

So I'll take that as a no. Thought so. Thanks for confirming.

Nice deflection!

Still waiting for collusion proof.

Wait a sec... I forgot. That's was 3 tries ago at subversion by the left.

Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:16 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So I'll take that as a no. Thought so. Thanks for confirming.

Nice deflection!

Still waiting for collusion proof.

Wait a sec... I forgot. That's was 3 tries ago at subversion by the left.

Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Millions of legal voters in this country do not have any form of ID?

I would love to meet just 1

(09-07-2017 11:02 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:16 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Nice deflection!

Still waiting for collusion proof.

Wait a sec... I forgot. That's was 3 tries ago at subversion by the left.

Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Millions of legal voters in this country do not have any form of ID?

I would love to meet just 1

It's a significant amount, but nowhere a million IMHO.

We need a national ID that should automatically be issued, for free, at voting age.

(09-07-2017 11:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 11:02 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Millions of legal voters in this country do not have any form of ID?

I would love to meet just 1

It's a significant amount, but nowhere a million IMHO.

We need a national ID that should automatically be issued, for free, at voting age.

With proof of citizenship? How do we do that. Every state issues drivers licenses to non citizens. Once you have that it is easy to register to vote.

(09-07-2017 11:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 11:02 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Millions of legal voters in this country do not have any form of ID?

I would love to meet just 1

It's a significant amount, but nowhere a million IMHO.

We need a national ID that should automatically be issued, for free, at voting age.

If an 18 year old or older cannot go through the trouble of going to the DMV to get a license or state ID then what makes you think they will go through the trouble of going to the local SS office to get a federal ID?

Our county has 1 SS office and 2 DMV's. I suspect in most places the DMV's are more plentiful than SS offices. If its racist/classist/sexist/whateverist to make someone get and ID from their local DMV, then wouldn't it be more discriminatory to shift the burden to an agency with even less public availability?

Lets get back on topic... lawsuits are coming!

(09-07-2017 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lets get back on topic... lawsuits are coming!

For?

(09-07-2017 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lets get back on topic... lawsuits are coming!

For?

A lot of people flooded due to the release of water from the Barker and Addicks Reservoir.

(09-07-2017 11:40 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 11:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 11:02 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Millions of legal voters in this country do not have any form of ID?

I would love to meet just 1

It's a significant amount, but nowhere a million IMHO.

We need a national ID that should automatically be issued, for free, at voting age.

If an 18 year old or older cannot go through the trouble of going to the DMV to get a license or state ID then what makes you think they will go through the trouble of going to the local SS office to get a federal ID?

Our county has 1 SS office and 2 DMV's. I suspect in most places the DMV's are more plentiful than SS offices. If its racist/classist/sexist/whateverist to make someone get and ID from their local DMV, then wouldn't it be more discriminatory to shift the burden to an agency with even less public availability?

You seem to be implying this is just due to laziness. But there are plenty of cases where this has nothing to do with it.

(09-07-2017 11:36 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 11:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 11:02 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Millions of legal voters in this country do not have any form of ID?

I would love to meet just 1

It's a significant amount, but nowhere a million IMHO.

We need a national ID that should automatically be issued, for free, at voting age.

With proof of citizenship? How do we do that. Every state issues drivers licenses to non citizens. Once you have that it is easy to register to vote.

Of course, you have to be a citizen to vote.

(09-07-2017 12:49 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lets get back on topic... lawsuits are coming!

For?

A lot of people flooded due to the release of water from the Barker and Addicks Reservoir.

Ah...seems like a waste of time IMO. It's basically a one-off disaster. You can't expect normal things to happen during something like this.

(09-07-2017 12:52 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 12:49 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 12:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  Lets get back on topic... lawsuits are coming!

For?

A lot of people flooded due to the release of water from the Barker and Addicks Reservoir.

Ah...seems like a waste of time IMO. It's basically a one-off disaster. You can't expect normal things to happen during something like this.

Inverse Condemnation Rights

(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 05:03 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 09:16 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So I'll take that as a no. Thought so. Thanks for confirming.

Nice deflection!

Still waiting for collusion proof.

Wait a sec... I forgot. That's was 3 tries ago at subversion by the left.

Wow...this has to be the ironic post of the year. You lie about illegal voting. I call you on that lie. You can't back it up. So you deflect three times in total, to the dems, the dossier, and to Russia, and then have the stones to accuse ME of deflection?

You sir are now eligible for the right-wing tomfoolery hall of fame. Well done!

jhfc

I don't take kindly to someone calling me a liar.

I can provide link after link after link concerning voter fraud. You know very well that it happens.

The left's argument against voter fraud used to be that it doesn't happen.

After proof was provided, the left revised its argument. Now they say there is no large-scale voter fraud. Of course, that in itself is trying to prove a negative. We won't know that the statement "there is no large-scale voter fraud" is false until we see evidence of large-scale voter fraud.



As far as that goes, the intent of my post was to reference the left's incessant tactic of pushing fake news. They are so rabid they knowingly make up false claims to use as their proof.


Did she get 3 million more votes? Who cares? She didn't get enough electoral votes.

Thankfully.

NO

The argument over voter ID is that it makes it more likely that millions of people will not vote which is many, many times more than the amount of illegal votes.

The the ends doesn't justify the means.

Prove it