(09-02-2017 09:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  think a big takeaway for me is that I think in the ACC- I think I'd probably take Florida St out of the top position and put Clemson in there. I know Alabama's a really good team but I think the fact that the game will be in Clemson when they play is just huge for that. Florida St offensively just not doing much of anything vs Alabama.

Another one- I think the Big Ten may be the strongest conference from what I've seen. Ohio St looked pretty good eventually, but Penn St and Michigan in particular looked dominant.

What takeaways do folks have from week 1?

Ohio State looks pretty good beating the mighty Indiana.

Sure looked a whole hell of a lot better than Pitt did beating Youngstown St or Louisville did beating Purdue. That's for damn sure.

Definitely not a good weekend for the ACC. They were the clear loser in week 1.

CBS reporting Francois is out for the season with his knee injury.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ee-injury/

just devastating. FSU is done.

Money will buy you coaching that is true.

It still takes years for programs to fully upgrade HCs then have star studded assistants. The impact of money to coaching is felt more every year.

This offsets improved recruiting by the G5 as a unit.

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Ten years ago there were 66 schools with guaranteed access to the BCS and 53 equivalents to today's G5
Today there are 65 schools within the Power 5 and 65 within the G5 with one set to depart (Idaho) and one set to join (Liberty)

Assuming that normally a player offered a P5 slot will turn down a G5 slot (normally there are ALWAYS exceptions) and assuming everyone always signs 25 newcomers (not true but bear with me) each year.

That means that in 2008, the 1,625 best available players were split among 66 schools of the BCS and of the next 1350 players, 25 went BCS and the rest were split 53 ways. Today the 1625 best would go P5 and the remaining 1350 would be split between 65 schools.

Realignment has given us UMass, Old Dominion, UTSA, Charlotte, UTSA, Texas State, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, and Coastal Carolina. Membership in existing FBS leagues by non-FBS schools gave us South Alabama and Western Kentucky.

I would argue that the difference is not that the P5 are getting better but that the G5 diluted as leagues looked to survive.

To answer your question about what conference had the best week, the answer is the PAC12, Josh Rosen leads UCLA back from being 34 down to A&M and the PAC goes undefeated for the weekend.

(09-03-2017 10:26 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  To answer your question about what conference had the best week, the answer is the PAC12, Josh Rosen leads UCLA back from being 34 down to A&M and the PAC goes undefeated for the weekend.

Yes Rosen played well. But the onus is on Sumlin for the absolute worst clock management that I can ever remember. He bypassed a minute with one time out and the ball on the UCLA 42 to add 3 more points in the first half. And then he wastes 3 series in the 3rd quarter by trying to pass the ball.

He got away in the third quarter from blitzing Rosen and then when he tried in the last two UCLA drives his players were out of gas. It was an absolute lesson plan on how to blow a 34 point lead with 20 minutes to play.

Texas - Upset at home

Baylor - Bigger upset at home

TAMU - Chokes away a 34 point lead and loses.

All in all, not a stellar week for Texas football......

(09-03-2017 10:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:26 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  To answer your question about what conference had the best week, the answer is the PAC12, Josh Rosen leads UCLA back from being 34 down to A&M and the PAC goes undefeated for the weekend.

Yes Rosen played well. But the onus is on Sumlin for the absolute worst clock management that I can ever remember. He bypassed a minute with one time out and the ball on the UCLA 42 to add 3 more points in the first half. And then he wastes 3 series in the 3rd quarter by trying to pass the ball.

He got away in the third quarter from blitzing Rosen and then when he tried in the last two UCLA drives his players were out of gas. It was an absolute lesson plan on how to blow a 34 point lead with 20 minutes to play.

Oh you are absolutely correct JR, but you still have to execute. Half the reason A&M lost was because of how they let off the gas in the second half, but the other half of the story is that UCLA's D stepped up and shut down the Aggies and Rosen capitalized on every opportunity given to him. Two sides of the same coin, both contributed to a historic comeback

(09-03-2017 10:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes Rosen played well. But the onus is on Sumlin for the absolute worst clock management that I can ever remember. He bypassed a minute with one time out and the ball on the UCLA 42 to add 3 more points in the first half. And then he wastes 3 series in the 3rd quarter by trying to pass the ball.

Sumlin was still passing the ball in the 4th quarter when he could have bled enough of the clock to keep UCLA from having enough possessions to come back. The QB throwing those passes in the 4th quarter was 3-for-17 in the game, but the A&M coaches still kept calling passes.

(09-03-2017 10:51 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes Rosen played well. But the onus is on Sumlin for the absolute worst clock management that I can ever remember. He bypassed a minute with one time out and the ball on the UCLA 42 to add 3 more points in the first half. And then he wastes 3 series in the 3rd quarter by trying to pass the ball.

Sumlin was still passing the ball in the 4th quarter when he could have bled enough of the clock to keep UCLA from having enough possessions to come back. The QB throwing those passes in the 4th quarter was 3-for-17 in the game, but the A&M coaches still kept calling passes.

True. And lest we forget one of his 3rd quarter field goals was kicked with the ball on the 2. It was the premier coaching failure with regard to the clock that my 40 plus years of going to college football games can recall.

(09-03-2017 08:27 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Ten years ago there were 66 schools with guaranteed access to the BCS and 53 equivalents to today's G5
Today there are 65 schools within the Power 5 and 65 within the G5 with one set to depart (Idaho) and one set to join (Liberty)

Assuming that normally a player offered a P5 slot will turn down a G5 slot (normally there are ALWAYS exceptions) and assuming everyone always signs 25 newcomers (not true but bear with me) each year.

That means that in 2008, the 1,625 best available players were split among 66 schools of the BCS and of the next 1350 players, 25 went BCS and the rest were split 53 ways. Today the 1625 best would go P5 and the remaining 1350 would be split between 65 schools.

Realignment has given us UMass, Old Dominion, UTSA, Charlotte, UTSA, Texas State, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, and Coastal Carolina. Membership in existing FBS leagues by non-FBS schools gave us South Alabama and Western Kentucky.

I would argue that the difference is not that the P5 are getting better but that the G5 diluted as leagues looked to survive.

The success of FCS programs and with a few of the more successful in ODU, App State, Georgia Southern and Western Kentucky moving up says there is plenty of FBS level talent in the FCS ranks.

I don't think there is anything such as a P5 talent. There are 4 & 5 star recruits which line the elite football schools (those with 70k+ seaters and a few others when hot). Otherwise its 2 & 3 star FBS guys that are populating the rosters.

That's why I think the difference is more in the coaching talent as you move from the lower tier G5 to the upper tier G5 and from the lower tier P5 to the upper tier P5 also.

Example Saban. He's able to get the cream of the crop from Florida to play at Alabama. This would be unthinkable 20 years ago. It could as easily be Auburn, Georgia or Tennessee but no its Alabama because Saban is there.

It's the coaches who are the top recruiters, motivators, managers who are coveted and end up in FBS then P5. There are some really good coaches in FCS that because they lack connections end up retiring out at that level but generally there is more talent as one moves up.

Maybe the real question coming out of week 1 is, who is going to replace Kevin Sumlin at Texas A&M?

(09-03-2017 11:15 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Maybe the real question coming out of week 1 is, who is going to replace Kevin Sumlin at Texas A&M?

Les Miles says he's available. Chizik would coach again. But personally speaking they should use an interim and try to hire an established coach away from somebody else. They do pay quite well!

(09-03-2017 01:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sure looked a whole hell of a lot better than Pitt did beating Youngstown St or Louisville did beating Purdue. That's for damn sure.

Definitely not a good weekend for the ACC. They were the clear loser in week 1.

At least Pitt and Louisville have never trailed while Ohio State trailed the mighty Indiana after two quarters.

Louisville never trailed? WTF? I guess the score being Purdue 28 Louisville 25 in the 4th quarter was a figment of my imagination.

Or Pittsburgh needing overtime to beating a FCS school.

It's definitely not been a great weekend for the ACC. 1 of their title contenders is done and another was trailing to a mediocre at best Purdue team in the 4th quarter.

1 thing that is nice is there seemed to be a lot fewer weather delays this weekend compared to what we've seen in prior week 1's.

(09-04-2017 12:28 AM)ArQ Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 01:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Sure looked a whole hell of a lot better than Pitt did beating Youngstown St or Louisville did beating Purdue. That's for damn sure.

Definitely not a good weekend for the ACC. They were the clear loser in week 1.

At least Pitt and Louisville have never trailed while Ohio State trailed the mighty Indiana after two quarters.

Louisville trailed Purdue 3 times including 10 minutes left in the 4th Quarter.

Are you sure you're a Louisville fan?

(09-03-2017 10:51 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-03-2017 10:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Yes Rosen played well. But the onus is on Sumlin for the absolute worst clock management that I can ever remember. He bypassed a minute with one time out and the ball on the UCLA 42 to add 3 more points in the first half. And then he wastes 3 series in the 3rd quarter by trying to pass the ball.

Sumlin was still passing the ball in the 4th quarter when he could have bled enough of the clock to keep UCLA from having enough possessions to come back. The QB throwing those passes in the 4th quarter was 3-for-17 in the game, but the A&M coaches still kept calling passes.

Sumlin clearly paid attention at the Atlanta Falcons coaching camp he attend this summer

ACC redeemed itself a bit with a win over West Virginia. SEC suffered a tough loss to UCLA