Five is Lance but no way do I put him ahead of Page except for the four year thing. Still, one of the best, and along with Don Fair, one of the most surehanded.

Plenty of three year players on the list. Don't see why it would matter, which three. There's been a whole lot of names mentioned worth being proud about, athletically and in life.

Gene Swick gone yet?

5. Lance Moore

Honorable Mention all-American; Academic All-American; 2 time All-MAC; Led the nation in catches with 103 in 2003; 1st all-time UT career TD receptions; 3rd in catches; 4th in yards. Held the record for yards in a season at 1194 until that was broken by Cody Thompson in 2016.

Went undrafted but eventually signed with the Saints. Played 9 seasons with the Saints, and 1 each with Pittsburgh and Detroit. 389 career catches for 4816 yards and 44 TDs. Also had 1 rushing TD, and believe it or not, 1 career pass, which was intercepted.

(08-26-2017 04:44 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Gene Swick gone yet?

yep, number 10.

We know Chuck will go. Mel Long? Umm. Bruce grad gone? Woodside has to be in converation now?

(08-26-2017 05:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We know Chuck will go. Mel Long? Umm. Bruce grad gone? Woodside has to be in converation now?

Ealey, Long, Taylor & Bruce are the only ones left.

Current players weren't eligible, so no Woodside.

I still can't believe Page was 11. Some folks must still be ticked about him leaving early. My top 5 would have been Ealey, Long, Page, Hunt, Gradkowski.

(08-26-2017 06:07 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 05:30 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  We know Chuck will go. Mel Long? Umm. Bruce grad gone? Woodside has to be in converation now?

Ealey, Long, Taylor & Bruce are the only ones left.

Current players weren't eligible, so no Woodside.

I still can't believe Page was 11. Some folks must still be ticked about him leaving early. My top 5 would have been Ealey, Long, Page, Hunt, Gradkowski.

Gradkowski doesn't impress by the numbers for MAC standards. He was famous and he played on some good teams, but it's almost embarrassing to say he is in our top 5 ever. Woodside will have better numbers if he stays on anything close to last years pace.

I agree. Page was the best Toledo player I've ever watched.

To have Chester ahead of Kareem is iffy too... How many times did Terry Swanson clean up a drive with a 3 yard rushing TD. TD's are the only real difference. For the carries Hunt didn't get he made up in receptions I guess. The 5 TD bowl performance against stAte is my deciding factor. Chester did beat PSU though.

Chester: 803 carries. 4646 yards. 5.8 average. 55 rush TD's. 61 receptions. 554 rec yards. 5 rec TD's.
Hunt: 782 carries. 4995 yards. 6.3 average. 44 rush TD's. 73 receptions. 555 rec yards. 1 rec TD.

Once thing I will say about Chester and Lance is they played full bore for 4 straight years to help Toledo win. They didn't play safe in their senior season to protect themselves for a hopeful future in The League--as some of the guys in more recent years were obviously doing. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable, but you have to give the guys who left it all on the field every game credit for what they did.

(08-26-2017 08:30 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Once thing I will say about Chester and Lance is they played full bore for 4 straight years to help Toledo win. They didn't play safe in their senior season to protect themselves for a hopeful future in The League--as some of the guys in more recent years were obviously doing. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable, but you have to give the guys who left it all on the field every game credit for what they did.

I love Lance as he has had maybe the best NFL career for a guy who gets the ball from Toledo.... But there wasn't a thing he could do as a volume receiver that Eric Page could not. EP did it in the return game as well. SO WELL, that he was an All American. In 3 years he was our reception leader for a career. A bonehead agent getting into a young guy's head fudged up EP's image but doesn't taint his ability and history as a Rocket. I'm not preaching for him to be top 5. The guys ahead are all deserving! In my own humble opinion though, he was the best player in a UT uniform that I have watched.

(08-26-2017 08:44 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:30 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Once thing I will say about Chester and Lance is they played full bore for 4 straight years to help Toledo win. They didn't play safe in their senior season to protect themselves for a hopeful future in The League--as some of the guys in more recent years were obviously doing. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable, but you have to give the guys who left it all on the field every game credit for what they did.

I love Lance as he has had maybe the best NFL career for a guy who gets the ball from Toledo.... But there wasn't a thing he could do as a volume receiver that Eric Page could not. EP did it in the return game as well. SO WELL, that he was an All American. In 3 years he was our reception leader for a career. A bonehead agent getting into a young guy's head fudged up EP's image but doesn't taint his ability and history as a Rocket. I'm not preaching for him to be top 5. The guys ahead are all deserving! In my own humble opinion though, he was the best player in a UT uniform that I have watched.

Meant no disrespect or argument against your evaluation. Unfortunately we never got to see what EP could do in The League or as a senior at TOL.

(08-26-2017 08:48 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:44 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:30 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Once thing I will say about Chester and Lance is they played full bore for 4 straight years to help Toledo win. They didn't play safe in their senior season to protect themselves for a hopeful future in The League--as some of the guys in more recent years were obviously doing. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable, but you have to give the guys who left it all on the field every game credit for what they did.

I love Lance as he has had maybe the best NFL career for a guy who gets the ball from Toledo.... But there wasn't a thing he could do as a volume receiver that Eric Page could not. EP did it in the return game as well. SO WELL, that he was an All American. In 3 years he was our reception leader for a career. A bonehead agent getting into a young guy's head fudged up EP's image but doesn't taint his ability and history as a Rocket. I'm not preaching for him to be top 5. The guys ahead are all deserving! In my own humble opinion though, he was the best player in a UT uniform that I have watched.

Meant no disrespect or argument against your evaluation. Unfortunately we never got to see what EP could do in The League or as a senior at TOL.

Agree to that. Has an NFL TD though.

(08-26-2017 09:33 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:48 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:44 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:30 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Once thing I will say about Chester and Lance is they played full bore for 4 straight years to help Toledo win. They didn't play safe in their senior season to protect themselves for a hopeful future in The League--as some of the guys in more recent years were obviously doing. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable, but you have to give the guys who left it all on the field every game credit for what they did.

I love Lance as he has had maybe the best NFL career for a guy who gets the ball from Toledo.... But there wasn't a thing he could do as a volume receiver that Eric Page could not. EP did it in the return game as well. SO WELL, that he was an All American. In 3 years he was our reception leader for a career. A bonehead agent getting into a young guy's head fudged up EP's image but doesn't taint his ability and history as a Rocket. I'm not preaching for him to be top 5. The guys ahead are all deserving! In my own humble opinion though, he was the best player in a UT uniform that I have watched.

Meant no disrespect or argument against your evaluation. Unfortunately we never got to see what EP could do in The League or as a senior at TOL.

Agree to that. Has an NFL TD though.

The injury kind of threw a wrench in the gears of his career. If he could have made team at Denver, who knows.

4. Mel Long, Sr.

Consensus All-American in 1971, 1st Team All-American 1970; 3 time 1st team all-MAC, 2 time MAC lineman of the year; Inducted into National Collegiate Football Hall of Fame in 1999. The defensive teams he led in 70 & 71 gave up a total of 169 points in 22 games - less than 8 points per game!

Drafted by the Browns in the 11th round, played 3 seasons in the NFL.

Honestly, I can't fathom how anyone except #16 deserves to be ranked ahead of a College Hall of Famer.

HOF bio is here: http://www.footballfoundation.org/Progra...x?id=70047

(08-27-2017 11:07 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  4. Mel Long, Sr.

Consensus All-American in 1971, 1st Team All-American 1970; 3 time 1st team all-MAC, 2 time MAC lineman of the year; Inducted into National Collegiate Football Hall of Fame in 1999. The defensive teams he led in 70 & 71 gave up a total of 169 points in 22 games - less than 8 points per game!

Drafted by the Browns in the 11th round, played 3 seasons in the NFL.

Honestly, I can't fathom how anyone except #16 deserves to be ranked ahead of a College Hall of Famer.

HOF bio is here: http://www.footballfoundation.org/Progra...x?id=70047

Again, he played defense. When was the last time the Homecoming Queen gushed" I just got a date with the starting defensive left tackle"?

(08-27-2017 11:16 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(08-27-2017 11:07 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  4. Mel Long, Sr.

Consensus All-American in 1971, 1st Team All-American 1970; 3 time 1st team all-MAC, 2 time MAC lineman of the year; Inducted into National Collegiate Football Hall of Fame in 1999. The defensive teams he led in 70 & 71 gave up a total of 169 points in 22 games - less than 8 points per game!

Drafted by the Browns in the 11th round, played 3 seasons in the NFL.

Honestly, I can't fathom how anyone except #16 deserves to be ranked ahead of a College Hall of Famer.

HOF bio is here: http://www.footballfoundation.org/Progra...px?id=7004

Again, he played defense. When was the last time the Homecoming Queen gushed" I just got a date with the starting defensive left tackle"?

I know one that's married to a NT/LB.

Chester at #3

(08-28-2017 04:08 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Chester at #3

3rd team All-American 2001; Honorable mention All-American 2000; 3 time 1st team all-MAC; MVP of MAC championship game & Motor City bowl; 1st all-time at UT in touchdowns and career scoring; 2nd all-time in yards, rushes, 100 yard games, etc.; 4 career 200 yard rushing games.

Drafted in the 6th round by Baltimore; Played 10 seasons in the NFL for the Ravens, Vikings, Bears and Cardinals; 4740 career yards rushing; 2324 receiving yards, over 1000 return yards and 32 total TDs; Also has 1 TD pass; Reportedly was the 1st MAC RB to ever rush for 1000 yards in an NFL season when he ran for 1216 with the Vikings in 2006

(08-26-2017 09:33 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:48 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:44 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(08-26-2017 08:30 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Once thing I will say about Chester and Lance is they played full bore for 4 straight years to help Toledo win. They didn't play safe in their senior season to protect themselves for a hopeful future in The League--as some of the guys in more recent years were obviously doing. Whether that is right or wrong is debatable, but you have to give the guys who left it all on the field every game credit for what they did.

I love Lance as he has had maybe the best NFL career for a guy who gets the ball from Toledo.... But there wasn't a thing he could do as a volume receiver that Eric Page could not. EP did it in the return game as well. SO WELL, that he was an All American. In 3 years he was our reception leader for a career. A bonehead agent getting into a young guy's head fudged up EP's image but doesn't taint his ability and history as a Rocket. I'm not preaching for him to be top 5. The guys ahead are all deserving! In my own humble opinion though, he was the best player in a UT uniform that I have watched.

Meant no disrespect or argument against your evaluation. Unfortunately we never got to see what EP could do in The League or as a senior at TOL.

Agree to that. Has an NFL TD though.

Page doesn't have one during the regular season according to NFL stats. 4 catches for 68 yards and a 17ypg avg. Had a lot of kick-off and punt returns, but also has 3 fumbles on the returns and lost 2 of them. Always had a chance for a score from anywhere on the field when he was in the game at Toledo.

Bruce is #2. The suspense surrounding who will be Numero Uno is killing me.