My home town of Dickinson has issued a mandatory evacuation. The resources in that town are gone or under water. My family has all relocated to dryer ground, but resources are being strained in those areas too. Thank you to those that have been praying. Please don't stop. Houston, Beaumont, Louisiana and all the communities in between need those prayers and help.

(08-28-2017 05:06 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 02:55 PM)usm99 Wrote:  Not sure how much of it is true or if they're photoshopped but I saw some pictures that had gas over $8 a gallon along other pictures showing a case of basic/generic bottled water going for $25-$40 a case (FWIW, this same water you can get at Walmart/Sams for under $5 a case in Hattiesburg). Like I said, not sure how valid those pictures were but if true that is straight up a shame for the people in the Houston area

That's highly illegal isn't it?

http://www.13newsnow.com/weather/confron.../467395495

In the video, a few dozen cases of water can be seen in a truck bed and under a tent, Griffin then accuses a man holding up a sign advertising 'water' of selling the product for 500% more than it's worth.

The unidentified man responded that Griffin has no idea how much he bought it for and suggested he go to the Exxon station to see how much they were charging for water.

So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

Well of course! Everyone knows hurricanes didn't occur until after the Industrial Revolution!

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Okay...let's not turn this thread into bullsheit politics/prick waving d!ck fight.

Let's be more concerned with our brethren and their families who are potentially in danger...

Just sayin

(08-28-2017 09:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Yeah, I heard about those emails a few years back. Lets leave the politics out of it. People are suffering. Argue over politics another time.

(08-28-2017 09:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Lol, sorry but no it hasn't because there is no data to support that. All "climate change" data involving humans having an effect on it has resulted as inconclusive. Some studies indicate that it is "possible" or "likely" that humans may play a role, but there is nothing conclusive enough to say humans caused a change in climate. And no, there hasn't been a statistically significant increase of frequency of hurricanes. It has fluctuated the past 150 years.
But we can instead invest funds into preventing or limiting damages the weather may cause.

Lock it or move it please mods

(08-27-2017 07:58 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(08-27-2017 07:02 PM)FTW ODU Wrote:  Rice's stadium.

https://twitter.com/abc13houston/status/...2503034881

That's from January

And this time is much much worse. The field is designed to flood though and be pumped out later.

Update from Houston, areas around Rice are still getting heavy rain. I still live up the street and the area has been mostly spared from serious flooding. Email to alums said Rice had some street flooding and minor leaks into basements but nothing major. Street flooding is normal as retention when it rains this hard but the bayous are what's really getting people now. Just way too much water for the system to handle. Army releasing water from the 2 reservoirs that protect downtown even though downstream is flooding because if they don't water will spill over the dams. That would result in catastrophic flooding downstream (downtown). Out in Fort bend county the Brazos river is going to reach record level. Mandatory and voluntary evacuations are underway for about 20% (110k) of the population.

It's pretty much impossible to go more than 2 or 3 miles. All the major highways have feet of water on them. Airports closed until at least Thursday. Houston is going to get a year worth of rain in 5 days and the situation is only going to keep getting worse until at least Thursday it seems. Just a devastating situation all around.

If you want up to date weather reports this is a great site: https://spacecityweather.com

(08-28-2017 09:48 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Lol, sorry but no it hasn't because there is no data to support that. All "climate change" data involving humans having an effect on it has resulted as inconclusive. Some studies indicate that it is "possible" or "likely" that humans may play a role, but there is nothing conclusive enough to say humans caused a change in climate. And no, there hasn't been a statistically significant increase of frequency of hurricanes. It has fluctuated the past 150 years.
But we can instead invest funds into preventing or limiting damages the weather may cause.

It has been pretty conclusive. Both the frequency of hurricanes and the temperature data itself. Which is why it enjoys a 97% consensus in scientific world.

(08-28-2017 11:05 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:48 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Lol, sorry but no it hasn't because there is no data to support that. All "climate change" data involving humans having an effect on it has resulted as inconclusive. Some studies indicate that it is "possible" or "likely" that humans may play a role, but there is nothing conclusive enough to say humans caused a change in climate. And no, there hasn't been a statistically significant increase of frequency of hurricanes. It has fluctuated the past 150 years.
But we can instead invest funds into preventing or limiting damages the weather may cause.

It has been pretty conclusive. Both the frequency of hurricanes and the temperature data itself. Which is why it enjoys a 97% consensus in scientific world.

No it hasn't. You've simply been duped into believing a lie.

Just heard from my cousin in Spring. They evacuated early this morning with the water lapping at the front door and sewage backing up into the bathrooms.

(08-29-2017 08:09 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Just heard from my cousin in Spring. They evacuated early this morning with the water lapping at the front door and sewage backing up into the bathrooms.

Good deal, man. Glad to hear everyone is safe and sound.

(08-28-2017 11:05 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:48 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  So, maybe now, all those politicians who agree that climate change goes on but are unwilling to spend billions of dollars to address it, will see that the costs of climate change are quite high and it is too expensive to do nothing about it.

??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Lol, sorry but no it hasn't because there is no data to support that. All "climate change" data involving humans having an effect on it has resulted as inconclusive. Some studies indicate that it is "possible" or "likely" that humans may play a role, but there is nothing conclusive enough to say humans caused a change in climate. And no, there hasn't been a statistically significant increase of frequency of hurricanes. It has fluctuated the past 150 years.
But we can instead invest funds into preventing or limiting damages the weather may cause.

It has been pretty conclusive. Both the frequency of hurricanes and the temperature data itself. Which is why it enjoys a 97% consensus in scientific world.

Scientific consensus is such a broad term. 97% of the scientific world acknowledge that climate change can be caused by man. Its the 5% of the wackos who manipulate climate data and flat out lie in scientific reports to show it as the "End of the World" and the government must seize all first world assets in order to stop it.

Its how the questions and answers are framed that piss me off about "climate change".

Read this morning that rescue boat volunteers in the Cajun Navy (if you haven't heard of them, look it up) were ambushed by people saying they needed help evacuating and when the boats showed up they tried to rob them, steal their boats, and shot at them.

Unfortunately, this has caused many of the volunteers to pack up and head home.

I've seen through social media that looting is rampant right now. Some dumbasses are blatantly posted online that they are doing it.

(08-29-2017 08:27 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 11:05 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:48 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 09:25 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(08-28-2017 07:51 PM)Free bird Wrote:  ??? Are you saying that humans caused this hurricane?

No. I am saying that advancing climate change has caused hurricanes to become more frequent, more severe. You do realize that climate change enjoys scientific consensus, right?

Lol, sorry but no it hasn't because there is no data to support that. All "climate change" data involving humans having an effect on it has resulted as inconclusive. Some studies indicate that it is "possible" or "likely" that humans may play a role, but there is nothing conclusive enough to say humans caused a change in climate. And no, there hasn't been a statistically significant increase of frequency of hurricanes. It has fluctuated the past 150 years.
But we can instead invest funds into preventing or limiting damages the weather may cause.

It has been pretty conclusive. Both the frequency of hurricanes and the temperature data itself. Which is why it enjoys a 97% consensus in scientific world.

Scientific consensus is such a broad term. 97% of the scientific world acknowledge that climate change can be caused by man. Its the 5% of the wackos who manipulate climate data and flat out lie in scientific reports to show it as the "End of the World" and the government must seize all first world assets in order to stop it.

Its how the questions and answers are framed that piss me off about "climate change".

Well, the Galveston hurricane of 1900 was pretty severe.

I think 97% of scientists agree that human factors could be a contributor. I don't think 97% of them are saying it is all man, and only man.

And in other news, 4 out 5 dentists agree - use Ipana!!

Rice's stadium is not under water for the record. Saw a Snapchat from earlier that showed it clear.