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RE: Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death
(08-17-2017 09:43 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  [quote='Nugget's Ghostbuster' pid='14511085' dateline='1503015876']
[quote='AndreWhere' pid='14511024' dateline='1503013690']

The Indians lost their homeland to the Yankees

Think that happened back when New York acquired Babe Ruth, and Cleveland never got it back!04-cheers
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(08-17-2017 09:43 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  
(08-17-2017 07:24 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  
(08-17-2017 06:48 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  The American Indians lost their homeland to the Yankees

Mississippi has an Indian name. No one wants to change it.

Let's just leave it all alone and call it history

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Over half of the states are named after Indian names or words.

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And the "Chief" there wasn't even indian. Imagine that*
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(08-17-2017 03:00 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  I am asking so I haven't looked it up. Has Liberty separated from Jerry Falwell? I know he started the college. I know Furman disassociated from the Baptist Convention a while back. Just curious.

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He died in 2007. However, his son is the school president, Falwell Jr. He's not a churchman like his dad, but a Lawyer out of UVA. His biggest PR controversy, currently, is supporting Trump.
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(08-18-2017 01:13 PM)Willflop Wrote:  
(08-17-2017 03:00 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  I am asking so I haven't looked it up. Has Liberty separated from Jerry Falwell? I know he started the college. I know Furman disassociated from the Baptist Convention a while back. Just curious.

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He died in 2007. However, his son is the school president, Falwell Jr. He's not a churchman like his dad, but a Lawyer out of UVA. His biggest PR controversy, currently, is supporting Trump.

I was asking because his father made the homosexual comments not his son or the current administration. I could see where Dr. Bennett would be ok with scheduling Liberty.

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(08-18-2017 01:31 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  I was asking because his father made the homosexual comments not his son or the current administration. I could see where Dr. Bennett would be ok with scheduling Liberty.

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Falwell jr was originally offered Secretary of Education by Trump in February(backup choice went to Betsy DeVos) but opponents criticised him on his anti LGBTQ record.
He has a softer voice against homosexuality compared to his father but is still against it as well as any sex education at Liberty.

From the Huffington Post regarding Falwell Jr and Liberty......

"Although the Baptist-affiliated college claims that it does not discriminate against students based on sexual orientation, its honor code prohibits “homosexual conduct or the encouragement or advocacy of any form of sexual behavior that would undermine the Christian identity or faith mission of the University.”

Liberty University, located in Lynchburg, Va., has close ties to the Liberty Counsel, the right-wing legal group responsible for Kim Davis’ defense, after the Rowan County, Ky. clerk was briefly jailed for refusing to offer same-sex couples marriage licenses.

In addition to its affiliation with the Liberty Counsel, the college has repeatedly aligned itself with antigay leaders and organizations."

To clarify, I am good with playing Liberty. What I am saying is that there is enough here to justify simply asking the question to Dr. Bennett. He went on record and released a statement to the media in April 2016 promoting his beliefs and those of our university. Now, the same university is paying a school that has an honor code that directly conflicts with his statements last April. The media is lazy to just report the series announcement and not ask for a response from Dr. Bennett. If Dr. Bennett is aware of what Liberty University represents, he has an obligation to explain and support USMs decision to play Liberty since he went on record last year with the media to support his views on behalf of USM. Accountability, plain and simple.
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Correct, they have not abandoned traditional conservative evangelical beliefs.
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We should schedule a 1-1 with Temple Baptist imo.
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(08-18-2017 02:02 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 01:31 PM)Ace Barker Wrote:  I was asking because his father made the homosexual comments not his son or the current administration. I could see where Dr. Bennett would be ok with scheduling Liberty.

Ace...

Falwell jr was originally offered Secretary of Education by Trump in February(backup choice went to Betsy DeVos) but opponents criticised him on his anti LGBTQ record.
He is a softer voice against homosexuality compared to his father but is still against it as well as any sex education at Liberty.

From the Huffington Post regarding Falwell Jr and Liberty......

Although the Baptist-affiliated college claims that it does not discriminate against students based on sexual orientation, its honor code prohibits “homosexual conduct or the encouragement or advocacy of any form of sexual behavior that would undermine the Christian identity or faith mission of the University.”

Liberty University, located in Lynchburg, Va., has close ties to the Liberty Counsel, the right-wing legal group responsible for Kim Davis’ defense, after the Rowan County, Ky. clerk was briefly jailed for refusing to offer same-sex couples marriage licenses.

In addition to its affiliation with the Liberty Counsel, the college has repeatedly aligned itself with antigay leaders and organizations.

Thanks. Similar deal with Furman as well until maybe 20 years ago. I was just asking. I know gay/Lesbian students were at Furman.

It is interesting that Dr. Bennett approved or maybe he is hands off on football scheduling.

I don't care one way or another.

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People want college to include sex ed class? Man, there are some weird ***** out there nowadays.
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(08-18-2017 02:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  People want college to include sex ed class? Man, there are some weird ***** out there nowadays.

USM has a Student Empowerment Course that discusses sex education, including cultural competency relating to gender identity and sexual orientation for all students.
If it hasn't started already, I guarantee high schools will start covering these topics within the next 5-10 years. Liberty chooses to not allow classes or curriculums that cover these topics.
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(08-18-2017 02:42 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 02:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  People want college to include sex ed class? Man, there are some weird ***** out there nowadays.

USM has a Student Empowerment Course that discusses sex education, including cultural competency relating to gender identity and sexual orientation for all students.
If it hasn't started already, I guarantee high schools will start covering these topics within the next 5-10 years. Liberty chooses to not allow classes or curriculums that cover these topics.

And here everyone thought Liberty is anti-science COGS
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(08-18-2017 02:42 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 02:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  People want college to include sex ed class? Man, there are some weird ***** out there nowadays.

USM has a Student Empowerment Course that discusses sex education, including cultural competency relating to gender identity and sexual orientation for all students.
If it hasn't started already, I guarantee high schools will start covering these topics within the next 5-10 years. Liberty chooses to not allow classes or curriculums that cover these topics.


Geez I thought you liked one or the other.





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Liberty also mandates men's hair length...attended a conference once with some of their staff.
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(08-18-2017 03:18 PM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Liberty also mandates men's hair length...attended a conference once with some of their staff.

Not that it matters, but that's pretty dated. They've relaxed on a lot of things related to dress.
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(08-18-2017 03:18 PM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Liberty also mandates men's hair length...attended a conference once with some of their staff.

You attended a men's hair conference.......weird......
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(08-18-2017 02:42 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 02:32 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  People want college to include sex ed class? Man, there are some weird ***** out there nowadays.

USM has a Student Empowerment Course that discusses sex education, including cultural competency relating to gender identity and sexual orientation for all students.

Sounds like some kinky stuff. "...twenty-seven 8 x 10 colored
Glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of
Each one explainin' what each one was..." I'll bet.
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..I sold books door to door for 3 summers with a group from USM...lots of us crazy frat boys in our group.....putting our way through school....... Liberty Baptist was one of the colleges that had a group....they were some of the strangest people I have ever met....crooked hair cuts and dressed like a cult.....I used to screw with em by cursing in front of them or talking about having sex with girls in college....My sales manager would laugh his anus off at me messin with those bible thumpers.........they hated me...................I'm such a horrible person....I know I'm going to hell.
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(08-18-2017 04:15 PM)Nuggets Ghost Wrote:  ..I sold books door to door for 3 summers with a group from USM...lots of us crazy frat boys in our group.....putting our way through school....... Liberty Baptist was one of the colleges that had a group....they were some of the strangest people I have ever met....crooked hair cuts and dressed like a cult.....I used to screw with em by cursing in front of them or talking about having sex with girls in college....My sales manager would laugh his anus off at me messin with those bible thumpers.........they hated me...................I'm such a horrible person....I know I'm going to hell.

Got an early start didn't you....
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(08-18-2017 04:15 PM)Nuggets Ghost Wrote:  ..I sold books door to door for 3 summers with a group from USM...lots of us crazy frat boys in our group.....putting our way through school....... Liberty Baptist was one of the colleges that had a group....they were some of the strangest people I have ever met....crooked hair cuts and dressed like a cult.....I used to screw with em by cursing in front of them or talking about having sex with girls in college....My sales manager would laugh his anus off at me messin with those bible thumpers.........they hated me...................I'm such a horrible person....I know I'm going to hell.

Little hell isnt as bad as big Hell.

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(08-18-2017 04:15 PM)Nuggets Ghost Wrote:  ..I sold books door to door for 3 summers with a group from USM...lots of crazy frat boys in our group.......I used to screw them......I know I'm going to hell.

Finally----A thoughtful, truthful post by nuggy
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