This seems to be Carey's option according to this place:

Either play Santa or Childers (but not both) or be wrong.

Go watch a practice. Educate yourself. Be more than a gas bag.

The lack of talent at QB this year is a huge red X on carey's head. It may end up getting him fired. That doesn't mean Graham may not be the best of a bad group though.

If the QBs are throwing inaccurate passes in practices, are they balls that are overthrown or underthrown? Or are they leading the WRs too much or throwing behind them? I can see some inaccuracy being caused by not having worked with the first string WRs much.

If Graham is HEALTHY, he will be fine. Especially in MAC games. Not sure he makes it thru Neb and BC

(08-14-2017 04:31 PM)7 Wrote:  This seems to be Carey's option according to this place:

Either play Santa or Childers (but not both) or be wrong.

Go watch a practice. Educate yourself. Be more than a gas bag.

The lack of talent at QB this year is a huge red X on carey's head. It may end up getting him fired. That doesn't mean Graham may not be the best of a bad group though.

Well then in that case you may want to kick start your "burn the shirt" campaign.

(08-14-2017 04:38 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 04:31 PM)7 Wrote:  This seems to be Carey's option according to this place:

Either play Santa or Childers (but not both) or be wrong.

Go watch a practice. Educate yourself. Be more than a gas bag.

The lack of talent at QB this year is a huge red X on carey's head. It may end up getting him fired. That doesn't mean Graham may not be the best of a bad group though.

Well then in that case you may want to kick start your "burn the shirt" campaign.

It's not going to happen and it probably shouldn't honestly. He was easily the most talented QB though (duh).

And for the record, whoever the starter is, if they're really bad, Carey won't hesitate to give them the hook. He's never been shy about changing QBs, whether or not you agree with it.

If NIU ends up having a guy who is healthy enough and playing well enough to be the guy, things will have gone shockingly well.

Doesn't Carey really have only a week to 10 days to decide because you would want the Starter to have a week to prepare for BC?

(08-14-2017 04:53 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  Doesn't Carey really have only a week to 10 days to decide because you would want the Starter to have a week to prepare for BC?

In theory, yes, but I'm not convinced multiple QBs won't play vs BC

Game week would start the 27th so there's still 13 days which is, what, half of camp still?

Correction, BC is Friday so game week would start the 26th

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That might be true but we know already that Santa and Graham are not the answers. [/quote]

I can understand your comments about Graham at this point. However I disagree that we know that Santa is not the answer. He might not be but he has not had enough snaps in game situations yet to know what he can bring to the table.

If Graham has not shown great strides I would lean towards starting either Santa or Childers based on who has had the better fall camp. Why not take a flyer on Santa or Childers if we know at this point that Graham is mediocre at best?

That might be true but we know already that Santa and Graham are not the answers. [/quote]

I can understand your comments about Graham at this point. However I disagree that we know that Santa is not the answer. He might not be but he has not had enough snaps in game situations yet to know what he can bring to the table.

If Graham has not shown great strides I would lean towards starting either Santa or Childers based on who has had the better fall camp. Why not take a flyer on Santa or Childers if we know at this point that Graham is mediocre at best?
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Yea I haven't seen nearly enough of Santa to know if he isn't the answer. And Graham hasn't separated himself from guys that are much less experienced which is far from ideal.

Carey is not going to name the starter until the day of the game. It is all set up to get the line, "We wanted to keep BC guessing."

Before everyone jumps off the nearest bridge because it sounds as if Graham is leading the competition at this point, let me re-iterate one thing about Graham. He's been forced into action during some really tough stretches of the schedule. He's faced USF, SDST, Boise, Toledo(20), WMU, Ohio and Toledo again. He's had 2 cupcakes in Buff(148 rating) and WIU(pooped the bed here) And though I thought Maddie played great last year, he faced 1 winning team, WMU, and had a 107 passer rating. His other games were Ball st., Buff., BG and CMU who were all under .500. Even Santa had a shot at a cream puff in Kent st.

So it will be Grahams luck again, because he's Graham and just a glutton for punishment, that he will probably face BC, EIU, Nebraska and if he lives SDST. NIU will be 1-3 and he will take all the blame. Then santa or Childers will come in for the soft MAC schedule and people will be say "see, they should have started day 1"

Maybe they should. I really don't know. But I'm curious as to how people would view Graham if his first 5 this starts this year are against Kent, Buff, BG, tol and ball st. While Santa or Childers end up looking pretty feable vs. those 3 tough OOC opponents.

I really don't want Graham to start but this is a big year for Carey so...

(08-14-2017 08:04 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  Before everyone jumps off the nearest bridge because it sounds as if Graham is leading the competition at this point, let me re-iterate one thing about Graham. He's been forced into action during some really tough stretches of the schedule. He's faced USF, SDST, Boise, Toledo(20), WMU, Ohio and Toledo again. He's had 2 cupcakes in Buff(148 rating) and WIU(pooped the bed here) And though I thought Maddie played great last year, he faced 1 winning team, WMU, and had a 107 passer rating. His other games were Ball st., Buff., BG and CMU who were all under .500. Even Santa had a shot at a cream puff in Kent st.

So it will be Grahams luck again, because he's Graham and just a glutton for punishment, that he will probably face BC, EIU, Nebraska and if he lives SDST. NIU will be 1-3 and he will take all the blame. Then santa or Childers will come in for the soft MAC schedule and people will be say "see, they should have started day 1"



Maybe they should. I really don't know. But I'm curious as to how people would view Graham if his first 5 this starts this year are against Kent, Buff, BG, tol and ball st. While Santa or Childers end up look like pretty feable vs. those 3 tough OOC opponents.

Great point.

(08-14-2017 08:24 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  I really don't want Graham to start but this is a big year for Carey so...

This is kind of where I'm at now. Save players from getting injured under Carey, start fresh next season with new coach. This is beyond repair with Carey now, just look to rebuild with new head coach for 2018-19 season

Unless a miracle happens this year, the #1 goal for next year should be to sign a quality QB. We have had 2 excellent QBs in recent years. Is that as far as we go? Other teams seem to be able to load up on quality QBs. One leaves, and it's the next man up without missing a beat. Time and time again, we've seen that you do not win the MACC without a stud QB. Having the best O-line and running back(s) in the MAC won't do it. You need a threat at QB. Is getting to and winning the MACC a thing of the past for us? Certainly it seems like it this year.

(08-15-2017 08:20 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Unless a miracle happens this year, the #1 goal for next year should be to sign a quality QB. We have had 2 excellent QBs in recent years. Is that as far as we go? Other teams seem to be able to load up on quality QBs. One leaves, and it's the next man up without missing a beat. Time and time again, we've seen that you do not win the MACC without a stud QB. Having the best O-line and running back(s) in the MAC won't do it. You need a threat at QB. Is getting to and winning the MACC a thing of the past for us? Certainly it seems like it this year.

I think the Huskies could very well have one in Childers, too early to tell of course, but I don't think Carey will ever develop a QB, so the big thing is that a coaching change must occur sooner rather than later. Will Frazier ever be capable of making that move, that is the big question.

Did Carey not develop Hare or did I miss something here?

Did Carey not take over as offensive coordinator after a game where Lynch had -1 yards passing in the second half of his first career start and help him develop or am I missing something here?

(08-15-2017 09:15 AM)7 Wrote:  Did Carey not develop Hare or did I miss something here?

Did Carey not take over as offensive coordinator after a game where Lynch had -1 yards passing in the second half of his first career start and help him develop or am I missing something here?

You're missing rational thought and logic, both of with are in short supply in certain posters

(08-15-2017 09:15 AM)7 Wrote:  Did Carey not develop Hare or did I miss something here?

Did Carey not take over as offensive coordinator after a game where Lynch had -1 yards passing in the second half of his first career start and help him develop or am I missing something here?

Fans are spoiled.we had 5-6 great years of QBs. Many schools go through this. All MAC Quarterbacks don't grow on trees