$17 million in debt to the Russians when he took the job as Trump's campaign manager.....for free.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.c...ts-report/

I remember when Gianforte owning shares in an index fund with "Russian exposure" was flung at the wall as a story.

Now it's having loans with "apparent, pro-Russian interests". Just like if President Trumps stops arming "moderate rebels", that makes him a Russian puppet, because it just so happens to also be a "pro-Russian interest".

This also isn't news. NYT is just regurgitating the same story from 3 months ago. The well must be running dry again.

(07-20-2017 11:20 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  $17 million in debt to the Russians when he took the job as Trump's campaign manager.....for free.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.c...ts-report/

So he's a tad light. The American people, thanks to zerO, are some hundreds of billions, perhaps a trillion or two, in debt to the communist chinese. Doubled that sick puppy in less time then all other Presidents in History. We got exactly what for that?

Where were you complaining about that the last decade?!?

Faux outrage is, uhhhh, faux.

Going to find all the dirty Russian money. Can't hide those tax returns anymore Donald.

(07-20-2017 11:20 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  $17 million in debt to the Russians when he took the job as Trump's campaign manager.....for free.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.c...ts-report/

Try reading more than the headline.

Those loans were in 2012 and 2013. And it is from a Cyprus bank, not Russian. It may have connections with a Russian or Ukrainian businessman. It doesn't even say that $17 million were outstanding at one time and none may have been outstanding in 2016.

I have corrupted by pro-French interests considering what a young French lady taught me, ahem, back in the day while I was on vacation in Bali.

(07-21-2017 08:15 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  I have corrupted by pro-French interests considering what a young French lady taught me, ahem, back in the day while I was on vacation in Bali.

Yes, and Trump was corrupted by pro-Russian interests when his fired campaign manager borrowed from a bank in Cyprus and Trump himself was corrupted by pro-Russian interests when he borrowed from the largest bank in Germany years ago (at least that is what the article implies).

Your connection is much more direct. You are going to need to be impeached!

Just a big nothing burger witch hunt.

MAGA!

Build that wall!!!!!

Yoooo hooooo!

(07-21-2017 08:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-20-2017 11:20 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  $17 million in debt to the Russians when he took the job as Trump's campaign manager.....for free.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.c...ts-report/

Try reading more than the headline.

Those loans were in 2012 and 2013. And it is from a Cyprus bank, not Russian. It may have connections with a Russian or Ukrainian businessman. It doesn't even say that $17 million were outstanding at one time and none may have been outstanding in 2016.

They were still going after Manafort for the money in 2015 and stopped (you guessed it) in 2016.

(07-21-2017 08:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Just a big nothing burger witch hunt.

MAGA!

Build that wall!!!!!

Yoooo hooooo!

The wall just got 20 ft higher.

No Mexcan with cantaloupes for calves will be able to climb. Wooohooooo.

(07-21-2017 08:26 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 08:10 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-20-2017 11:20 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  $17 million in debt to the Russians when he took the job as Trump's campaign manager.....for free.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.c...ts-report/

Try reading more than the headline.

Those loans were in 2012 and 2013. And it is from a Cyprus bank, not Russian. It may have connections with a Russian or Ukrainian businessman. It doesn't even say that $17 million were outstanding at one time and none may have been outstanding in 2016.

They were still going after Manafort for the money in 2015 and stopped (you guessed it) in 2016.

That's not in your link.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...erous.html

"...Whenever they see any new meeting, they see evidence of collusion. They see what they want to see. Prosecution requires something more. First of all, define a crime. Collusion is not a crime... People are so eager to find a crime they fail to actually define it. People don't want to be in a world where a meeting like that could be treason,.""

Every time we ask one of these posters to define the crime, they ignore the question.

http://www.hoover.org/research/americas-media-meltdown
Also linked in the AP thread.

[i]"...In addition, the current generation of marquee reporters was schooled at the major journalism schools by veterans of the 1960s, when the “new” journalism saw progressive political activism—opposition to the Vietnam War and the promotion of civil rights, feminism, and environmentalism—as the proper counterweight to traditional and supposedly regressive American values.

Postmodernism—the theory that there are no absolute facts or eternal truths, only interpretations based on power machinations—seeped out from university English departments into the larger elite culture. Such relativism may explain the epidemic of fake news accounts and plagiarism as alternative “narratives” rather than simple untruths. Buzzfeed, for example, published the infamous fake Steele file, a lurid dossier of oppositional research against the Trump campaign, even though it admitted it could not confirm the veracity of the salacious accusations against Trump. But who was to say that the accusations were any more true or false than any other? In such anything-goes fashion, Politico’s Julia Joffe channeled the vulgarity of television celebrities like Steven Colbert and Bill Maher in suggesting an incestuous relationship between the president and his daughter.

Trump was neither shy nor decorous in punching back, ridiculing the appearance of on-air talking heads, relegating them to back of the room slots at press conferences, and going over the head of the media through often crude ad hominem tweets. Although polls (whose reliability remains questionable after the 2016 election) rarely showed figures higher than forty percent for Trump, the media is held in even less regard, with about two-thirds of those polled expressing their disapproval of journalists.
If the media became unhinged in the adulatory Obama years through hubris, it might have earned back its respect and professionalism by covering Trump in even-handed fashion. But Nemesis does not work that way: those it destroys, it first makes mad."[/i]

(07-21-2017 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...erous.html

"...Whenever they see any new meeting, they see evidence of collusion. They see what they want to see. Prosecution requires something more. First of all, define a crime. Collusion is not a crime... People are so eager to find a crime they fail to actually define it. People don't want to be in a world where a meeting like that could be treason,.""

Every time we ask one of these posters to define the crime, they ignore the question.

I'm not worried about a crime, the special prosecutor will find that if there is one. To me this is about a pro-Russian POTUS which is disturbing.

(07-21-2017 09:54 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  To me this is about a pro-Russian POTUS which is disturbing.

(07-21-2017 10:06 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 09:54 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  To me this is about a pro-Russian POTUS which is disturbing.

Show me the "flexibility".

(07-21-2017 09:54 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...erous.html

"...Whenever they see any new meeting, they see evidence of collusion. They see what they want to see. Prosecution requires something more. First of all, define a crime. Collusion is not a crime... People are so eager to find a crime they fail to actually define it. People don't want to be in a world where a meeting like that could be treason,.""

Every time we ask one of these posters to define the crime, they ignore the question.

I'm not worried about a crime, the special prosecutor will find that if there is one. To me this is about a pro-Russian POTUS which is disturbing.

MAGA.

Its not "make America an unimportant player in world affairs" or "I've never been proud of America until my husband was elected."

Trump being opposed to American interests is the most absurd part of this whole narrative. But then its been obvious that common sense is a rarer and rarer commodity. Even in the workplace.

(07-21-2017 09:54 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...erous.html

"...Whenever they see any new meeting, they see evidence of collusion. They see what they want to see. Prosecution requires something more. First of all, define a crime. Collusion is not a crime... People are so eager to find a crime they fail to actually define it. People don't want to be in a world where a meeting like that could be treason,.""

Every time we ask one of these posters to define the crime, they ignore the question.

I'm not worried about a crime, the special prosecutor will find that if there is one. To me this is about a pro-Russian POTUS which is disturbing.

And there is the problem. Special Prosecutors are only suppose to investigate a crime not find one.

(07-21-2017 10:36 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 09:54 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(07-21-2017 08:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...erous.html

"...Whenever they see any new meeting, they see evidence of collusion. They see what they want to see. Prosecution requires something more. First of all, define a crime. Collusion is not a crime... People are so eager to find a crime they fail to actually define it. People don't want to be in a world where a meeting like that could be treason,.""

Every time we ask one of these posters to define the crime, they ignore the question.

I'm not worried about a crime, the special prosecutor will find that if there is one. To me this is about a pro-Russian POTUS which is disturbing.

MAGA.

Its not "make America an unimportant player in world affairs" or "I've never been proud of America until my husband was elected."

Trump being opposed to American interests is the most absurd part of this whole narrative. But then its been obvious that common sense is a rarer and rarer commodity. Even in the workplace.

Both you and I know the most important thing to Trump is Trump and has always been Trump. So what if he stole Ronald Reagan's slogan so that you would think that he cares about you?