The one thing that goes in its favor is the direct route to FBS. Sun Belt basically has an opening for LR and Arlington. The question is with football becoming unbalanced what happens?

1. Does Arlington do a study as well?
2. Is this an opening for NMSU to get back in as FO if LR adds and Arlington does not?

I am hoping for LR to say yes much like I was hoping for Liberty to get FBS and WSU to add football. If a school wants to try and risk it, I am for letting them try and see if they succeed. I supported App and Charlotte in their FBS efforts because I did not feel adding them harms the other NC FBS programs and if you afraid of a new competitor, their is already a problem at your school. Not saying in state teams have to play or support them but the should never block them in their efforts.

(07-12-2017 06:26 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  The one thing that goes in its favor is the direct route to FBS. Sun Belt basically has an opening for LR and Arlington. The question is with football becoming unbalanced what happens?

1. Does Arlington do a study as well?
2. Is this an opening for NMSU to get back in as FO if LR adds and Arlington does not?

I am hoping for LR to say yes much like I was hoping for Liberty to get FBS and WSU to add football. If a school wants to try and risk it, I am for letting them try and see if they succeed. I supported App and Charlotte in their FBS efforts because I did not feel adding them harms the other NC FBS programs and if you afraid of a new competitor, their is already a problem at your school. Not saying in state teams have to play or support them but the should never block them in their efforts.

We would get a game in Little Rock every other year without losing a home game. The Little Rockians would finally get to see how we would travel and spend our money. They would be surprised.

We would have a home rivalry game every other year that the opponent would also travel for.

UCA would have trouble getting noticed.

Hogs would be fine of course but they would still whine about it forever and that would be fun.

It's a little awkward from a scheduling standpoint, but it is now permissible to have divisions with 11 teams. For example:

West - Texas State, Arkansas stAte, Little Rock, Lousiana, Lousiana-Monroe
East - South Alabama, Troy, GS, GSU, Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina

All of the East schools play each other, and then play three games each against West oponents, for a total of eight games.

For the west schools, the 18 cross-division games give three schools in the division four games, and two schools have three games. All five schools pick up four games from their fellow division oppponets. The two schools who are short a conference game can either play each other again, or designate a non-conference opponent as their eighth conference game. The latter would be a perfect solution for New Mexico State, who can use two late-season games (one home, one away), and it would never involve travel past the Mississippi River for the designated conference games.

Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

MO St would get a travel partner school in the MVC, but UALR would have to give up on FBS ambitions. It's a clear fork in the road, and UALR must choose which road to go down. FB supporters are officially on the clock.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

Your suspicions are wrong. We don't want UALR in the MVC.

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

MO St would get a travel partner school in the MVC, but UALR would have to give up on FBS ambitions. It's a clear fork in the road, and UALR must choose which road to go down. FB supporters are officially on the clock.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

This may be a silly question, but doesn't UALR have a travel partner in the SBC Is it ASU or another school? It is not like UALR olympic sports aren't in the SBC. I could be foolishly using simple logic.

I would love to see UALR start a football program.

(07-12-2017 08:42 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

MO St would get a travel partner school in the MVC, but UALR would have to give up on FBS ambitions. It's a clear fork in the road, and UALR must choose which road to go down. FB supporters are officially on the clock.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

This may be a silly question, but doesn't UALR have a travel partner in the SBC Is it ASU or another school? It is not like UALR olympic sports aren't in the SBC. I could be foolishly using simple logic.

Belt BB has gone in the crapper. UALR can be the next best mbb atmosphere compared to the pigs or be a very mediocre FBS at great expanse. Which to chose?

(07-12-2017 08:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

Your suspicions are wrong. We don't want UALR in the MVC.

That would have validity if it came from your president, but it doesnt.

Joining the MVC wouldn't change anything about UALR's bball experience. They aren't going to the MVC.

(07-12-2017 09:36 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:03 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Is this a leverage move by UALR to get fb supporters in LR to put up or shut up. The MVC could be expanding to 12 soon, and suspect Mo St would love UALR on board. A bad study or lack of funding could cause UALR to seek other options. The MVC would actually be an upgrade if football is not in the UALR future.

Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

Your suspicions are wrong. We don't want UALR in the MVC.

That would have validity if it came from your president, but it doesnt.

Our school doesn't want UALR in the MVC. They do nothing for us. MVC doesn't want them either. It's about as stupid as your Montana to the Summit League crap. Which you got owned in that thread so bad.

(07-12-2017 09:45 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Joining the MVC wouldn't change anything about UALR's bball experience. They aren't going to the MVC.

Do have the word of Presidents? Or you just regurgitating your normal BS again?

(07-12-2017 07:57 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  It's a little awkward from a scheduling standpoint, but it is now permissible to have divisions with 11 teams. For example:

West - Texas State, Arkansas stAte, Little Rock, Lousiana, Lousiana-Monroe
East - South Alabama, Troy, GS, GSU, Appalachian State, Coastal Carolina

All of the East schools play each other, and then play three games each against West oponents, for a total of eight games.

For the west schools, the 18 cross-division games give three schools in the division four games, and two schools have three games. All five schools pick up four games from their fellow division oppponets. The two schools who are short a conference game can either play each other again, or designate a non-conference opponent as their eighth conference game. The latter would be a perfect solution for New Mexico State, who can use two late-season games (one home, one away), and it would never involve travel past the Mississippi River for the designated conference games.

The Big Ten worked out a plan with 11 schools where each year any given school missed 3 opponents. Couldn't the west schools always miss 3 east schools and vice versa?

I think this will never come to pass because the support is not there at UALR for athletics to expand. The demographics of the school and it's mission are incompatible.

But the City of Little Rock lost a big annual SEC game, and the FCS/G5 opponent game is going away.

They City is not the school, and the school is the one being asked to spend money year after year after yearto help the city. So this wont go anywhere.

Wonder if the city would put up any money to fund a new program at UALR?

(07-12-2017 09:56 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:36 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:14 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  Not sure what you mean? Not sure how UALR getting football helps Mo St since UALR has straight path to the FBS with the Sunbelt.

If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

Your suspicions are wrong. We don't want UALR in the MVC.

That would have validity if it came from your president, but it doesnt.

Our school doesn't want UALR in the MVC. They do nothing for us. MVC doesn't want them either. It's about as stupid as your Montana to the Summit League crap. Which you got owned in that thread so bad.

Am an investor who frequents many investor message boards that spout crap about small companies as they are short sellers who don't want it to go up. Frequently been told my ideas were worth crap by short sellers, but later make ten fold gains if I show patience over years. This is just another example. My ideas were never refuted by thoughts on a Presidential level, but just by posters on viciousness with lies about the premises. This board, as most are, is full of con artists that think they know everything when they don't know crap. But they sure yell and scream at you and degrade you all they can but in the end their wrong. Meanwhile, I just make bank deposits and the screaming is just confirmation that I'm on the right track. Sometimes posters do have very good legitimate points so I do back off, but not very often. My WAC FBS idea was made null and void by deregulation, which is occurring everywhere in the business world, and I adjust my expectations.

Mo St president spouted off to the media that he was going to get a close proximity rival in the next two adds. Possible picks are UMKC, ORU, or UALR. UMKC and ORU simply haven't performed recently. UALR could be the pick for the MVC in a southern expansion strategy.

Murray St is almost assured, but Mo St likely doesn't want Milwaukee and will be pressing hard for its closer choice. The MVC also needs a baseball power to replace the Shockers. The Trojans could be considered, and then Mo St wouldn't be the furthest outlier. Not saying it would happen, but at least UALR has a possible alibi to leave when the FBS study doesn't pass muster.

(07-12-2017 10:20 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:56 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:36 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  If my suspicions are right, UALR has already been contacted by Mo St and is just going through motions that fb is not a viable pathway for them. Mbb would get renewed importance and interest in the end.

Your suspicions are wrong. We don't want UALR in the MVC.

That would have validity if it came from your president, but it doesnt.

Our school doesn't want UALR in the MVC. They do nothing for us. MVC doesn't want them either. It's about as stupid as your Montana to the Summit League crap. Which you got owned in that thread so bad.

Am an investor who frequents many investor message boards that spout crap about small companies as they are short sellers who don't want it to go up. Frequently been told my ideas were worth crap by short sellers, but later make ten fold gains if I show patience over years. This is just another example. My ideas were never refuted by thoughts on a Presidential level, but just by posters on viciousness with lies about the premises. This board, as most are, is full of con artists that think they know everything when they don't know crap.

Mo St president spouted off to the media that he was going to get a close proximity rival in the next two adds. Possible picks are UMKC, ORU, or UALR. UMKC and ORU simply haven't performed recently. UALR could be the pick for the MVC in a southern expansion strategy.

Murray St is almost assured, but Mo St likely doesn't want Milwaukee and will be pressing hard for its closer choice. The MVC also needs a baseball power to replace the Shockers. The Trojans could be considered, and then Mo St wouldn't be the furthest outlier. Not saying it would happen, but at least UALR has a possible alibi to leave when the FBS study doesn't pass muster.

Delusional like always.

(07-12-2017 10:41 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 10:20 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:56 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 09:36 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(07-12-2017 08:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Your suspicions are wrong. We don't want UALR in the MVC.

That would have validity if it came from your president, but it doesnt.

Our school doesn't want UALR in the MVC. They do nothing for us. MVC doesn't want them either. It's about as stupid as your Montana to the Summit League crap. Which you got owned in that thread so bad.

Am an investor who frequents many investor message boards that spout crap about small companies as they are short sellers who don't want it to go up. Frequently been told my ideas were worth crap by short sellers, but later make ten fold gains if I show patience over years. This is just another example. My ideas were never refuted by thoughts on a Presidential level, but just by posters on viciousness with lies about the premises. This board, as most are, is full of con artists that think they know everything when they don't know crap.

Mo St president spouted off to the media that he was going to get a close proximity rival in the next two adds. Possible picks are UMKC, ORU, or UALR. UMKC and ORU simply haven't performed recently. UALR could be the pick for the MVC in a southern expansion strategy.

Murray St is almost assured, but Mo St likely doesn't want Milwaukee and will be pressing hard for its closer choice. The MVC also needs a baseball power to replace the Shockers. The Trojans could be considered, and then Mo St wouldn't be the furthest outlier. Not saying it would happen, but at least UALR has a possible alibi to leave when the FBS study doesn't pass muster.

Delusional like always.

Again, not College Presidential thought but just name calling. Just discount his posts substantially, as there aren't worth reading.