(06-19-2017 09:36 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 09:00 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 08:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  The typical MW program > the typical patsy that everyone normally plays. Some schools play more of those than others.

I'd say take the challenge.

Time to act like a p6. We don't need an official challenge. Schedule them if it benefits you. No challenge....

The MW had a down year - they're not a dumpster league, though. It's good entertainment for teams outside of the top 3 in the AAC.

I'd rather do this in football, actually - the matchups would line up a whole lot better and it would end the pissing contest between the two leagues.

Also, let's be honest - if the AAC makes it in to the "new top tier" people are taking about, then the MW will as well. I kind of see the MW and AAC unhappily attached at the hip.

Not what we are aiming for. A p6 and a g4 only. No interest with an official challenge, but fine with random games. You can tell our p6 marketing is working though.

lol....isnt it the incredibly helpful MW fans who come all the way over to our board to patiently set us straight on why any talk of the AAC taking MW teams is silly as "it makes no sense for them to fly all over the eastern US just to play schools they don't care about". Some of those posters need to sit the Nevada AD down and explain the talking points. He seems to be quite concerned about not playing the 6th best conference enough.

(06-19-2017 09:59 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 09:36 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 09:00 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 08:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  The typical MW program > the typical patsy that everyone normally plays. Some schools play more of those than others.

I'd say take the challenge.

Time to act like a p6. We don't need an official challenge. Schedule them if it benefits you. No challenge....

The MW had a down year - they're not a dumpster league, though. It's good entertainment for teams outside of the top 3 in the AAC.

I'd rather do this in football, actually - the matchups would line up a whole lot better and it would end the pissing contest between the two leagues.

Also, let's be honest - if the AAC makes it in to the "new top tier" people are taking about, then the MW will as well. I kind of see the MW and AAC unhappily attached at the hip.

Not what we are aiming for. A p6 and a g4 only. No interest with an official challenge, but fine with random games. You can tell our p6 marketing is working though.

It's not the p6 marketing. It's that the AAC is cementing itself as the clear #6 due to budget sizes and revenues. The MW sees the writing on the wall and is not interested in falling behind.

I don't see this as a bad thing. Maybe we say no, but I don't think the Nevada AD is totally baseless.

I favor an AAC vs A10 challenge for several reasons, but I'm not opposed to a MWC vs AAC challenge.

limit it to our top-7 vs their top-7 (based off last seasons finish) and the conference who gets at least four Ws wins the challenge.

WSU vs Nevada

SMU vs CSU

Cincy vs Boise

Houston vs Fresno

UCF vs New Mexico

Memphis vs SDSU

UConn vs Wyoming (don't worry UConn, by the time we play UNLV will be back in the top 7)

games appear on ESPNU

Why don't we just take 4 of their schools?

(06-20-2017 12:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Why don't we just take 4 of their schools?

Because the networks don't want to pay for them. East coast is asleep when they play.

I love how he just slides in the little "Let’s see how great you are coming to Reno and playing us. Bring UConn out here and play us and then we’ll see who is the better conference,"

This isn't about seeing who belongs with the P5, it's about bumping their bottom line with a guaranteed, season-headlining game. Not to mention RPI Booster.

No thanks.

Nevada has a college?

"San Diego State crushed Houston, 34-10, in the Las Vegas Bowl, a showdown of the top football school in each conference"

Or....

a showdown between mwc conference champion and the #6 team in the AAC (#4 in the AAC West)

No thanks.

The real truth is at the bottom of the article where he clearly states the superiority of the AAC over MWC financially. Now if we can get separation in our tv contracts that will comfirm it.

I notice he didn't talk about NCAA basketball units? I wonder why.

And

Nice try trying to spin that SDSU vs Houston was the best vs best of both leagues.

sweet a everything to lose, nothing to gain challenge...

ill hard pass..and then torch it in fire...this article is the exact reason why itd be stupid..the'y twist every result...this article promoted houston as the champion of the AAC and sdsu beat us...we werent the champs and nowhere noted we were coaching with GAs

any win in that will be twisted by them to say they are as good a us..and when we win we will get nothing. "we are supposed to win"

the SEC doesnt need to play the aac in a challenge to know it is better....

everyone without a bias that follows the sport acknowledges we are better than the rest of the g5 by a growing gap...why would we give them an argument to counter that

NCAA bids since the AAC started
AAC 18 MWC 10
UConn 7, UC 5, Memphis 2, SMU 2, Temple1, Tulsa 1
SDSU 5, NM 2, Wyo 1, Fresno 1, Boise 1

NCAA basketball champs
AAC 1 MWC 0

Number of football teams in Final top 25 in those four years
AAC 5 vs MWC 2
UCF,USF,Houston,Memphis,Navy
Vs
Boise,SDSU

Number of football teams in final top 10
AAC 2 vs MWC 0

I do think an AAC vs A10 challenge makes more sense.

our top-9 vs their top-9 (based on last seasons final standings)

WSU vs Dayton
SMU vs VCU
Cincy vs Rhode Island
Houston vs Richmond
UCF vs St Bonaventure
Memphis vs George Washington
UConn vs La Salle
Tulsa vs George Mason
Temple vs Davison

games appear on ESPNU with the games in bold appearing on ESPN2

(06-20-2017 07:31 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  NCAA bids since the AAC started
AAC 18 MWC 10
UConn 7, UC 5, Memphis 2, SMU 2, Temple1, Tulsa 1
SDSU 5, NM 2, Wyo 1, Fresno 1, Boise 1

NCAA basketball champs
AAC 1 MWC 0

Number of football teams in Final top 25 in those four years
AAC 5 vs MWC 2
UCF,USF,Houston,Memphis,Navy
Vs
Boise,SDSU

Number of football teams in final top 10
AAC 2 vs MWC 0

You can toss all of WSU's bids in there too.

(06-20-2017 08:51 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 07:31 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  NCAA bids since the AAC started
AAC 28 MWC 10
UConn 7, UC 5, Memphis 2, SMU 2, Temple1, Tulsa 1
SDSU 5, NM 2, Wyo 1, Fresno 1, Boise 1

NCAA basketball champs
AAC 1 MWC 0

Number of football teams in Final top 25 in those four years
AAC 5 vs MWC 2
UCF,USF,Houston,Memphis,Navy
Vs
Boise,SDSU

Number of football teams in final top 10
AAC 2 vs MWC 0

You can toss all of WSU's bids in there too.

All else remaining the same, this is what it looks like.

The p6 thing is clearly working. Great work Aresco and say no to a challenge.

As Ive said over and over---we don't need a challenge. We just need to schedule better games. What I'd really like to see is league mandated minimum scheduling requirements. In baseball, we have learned how to play the RPI game. We need to do the same thing in basketball---by force if need be. That said, I wouldn't mind finding a location in Texas for bowl matching a AAC team and MW team. This wouldn't be a champ vs champ type game. Just a pair of 7-5/6-6 type teams.

(06-19-2017 07:40 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  There is no benefit playing them in hoops. They only have two programs with marginal national cred - SDSU and UNLV. I'd prefer to challenge the A10 over MW.

Well, New Mexico is still solid. But since Nevada fell off and without BYU, they're not much to write home about in hoops anymore.

The A-10 is definitely a better conference for helping our RPI.

As to the AAC bowl record that got trashed, losing head coaches is bad for winning in bowls. We need to stop hemorrhaging HCs going into bowl season.

(06-20-2017 10:49 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  

(06-19-2017 07:40 PM)Moody Magic Wrote:  There is no benefit playing them in hoops. They only have two programs with marginal national cred - SDSU and UNLV. I'd prefer to challenge the A10 over MW.

Well, New Mexico is still solid. But since Nevada fell off and without BYU, they're not much to write home about in hoops anymore.

The A-10 is definitely a better conference for helping our RPI.

As to the AAC bowl record that got trashed, losing head coaches is bad for winning in bowls. We need to stop hemorrhaging HCs going into bowl season.

Nevada won 28 games and made the NCAAs last season...