http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/d...index.html

Quote:US President Donald Trump told his Philippines' counterpart that he was doing a good job fighting an illegal drug epidemic in his country, an effort that has led to thousands of deaths and drawn international condemnation from human rights groups.

"I just wanted to congratulate you because I am hearing of the unbelievable job on the drug problem," Trump said in the April 29 phone call, according to a leaked transcript of the conversation with Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte published by the Intercept and also obtained by The Washington Post and The New York Times."Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that."

Quote:Duterte has responded to critics of the drug war with strong rhetoric. When former US President Barack Obama's administration said Obama would raise the issue during a meeting between the two, Duterte called his former US counterpart a "son of a *****." He also referred to the US ambassador to the Philippines at the time using the same epithet.

Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

(05-25-2017 07:31 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/politics/d...index.html

Quote:US President Donald Trump told his Philippines' counterpart that he was doing a good job fighting an illegal drug epidemic in his country, an effort that has led to thousands of deaths and drawn international condemnation from human rights groups.

"I just wanted to congratulate you because I am hearing of the unbelievable job on the drug problem," Trump said in the April 29 phone call, according to a leaked transcript of the conversation with Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte published by the Intercept and also obtained by The Washington Post and The New York Times."Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that."

Quote:Duterte has responded to critics of the drug war with strong rhetoric. When former US President Barack Obama's administration said Obama would raise the issue during a meeting between the two, Duterte called his former US counterpart a "son of a *****." He also referred to the US ambassador to the Philippines at the time using the same epithet.

that's a pretty slick shirt

Time to simply purge every and any Obama appointee. This has passed the point of politics. It's become dangerous. World leaders can't trust that what they say when engaged in frank discussions won't stay behind closed doors, the world becomes a lesss safe place and we become poor nation to partner with.

So,I'd--

1). Can all Obama appointees

2) if I can't do the above without damaging the function of government too badly---then I'd tap the phones of all NYT and Washington Post reporters as well as many state department employees to find the leakers and toss them in jail. The time has come to treat this as the sedition and national security violation that it is---It ain't just politics.

(05-25-2017 09:22 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Time to simply purge every and any Obama appointee. This has passed the point of politics. It's become dangerous. World leaders can't trust that what they say when engaged in frank discussions won't stay behind closed doors, the world becomes a lesss safe place and we become poor nation to partner with.

So,I'd--

1). Can all Obama appointees

2) if I can't do the above without damaging the function of government too badly---then I'd tap the phones of all NYT and Washington Post reporters as well as many state department employees to find the leakers and toss them in jail. The time has come to treat this as the sedition and national security violation that it is---It ain't just politics.

^

(05-25-2017 09:22 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Time to simply purge every and any Obama appointee. This has passed the point of politics. It's become dangerous. World leaders can't trust that what they say when engaged in frank discussions won't stay behind closed doors, the world becomes a lesss safe place and we become poor nation to partner with.

So,I'd--

1). Can all Obama appointees

2) if I can't do the above without damaging the function of government too badly---then I'd tap the phones of all NYT and Washington Post reporters as well as many state department employees to find the leakers and toss them in jail. The time has come to treat this as the sedition and national security violation that it is---It ain't just politics.

I agree 100%.

(05-25-2017 08:25 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Death squads run by the state. Trump thinks that's a great idea.

(05-25-2017 09:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 08:25 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Death squads run by the state. Trump thinks that's a great idea.

July 2016, 91% trust rating
http://www.rappler.com/nation/140318-dut...-july-2016

Oct 2016, 86% approval rating

Jan 2017, 83% approval rating
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/859906/dute...pulse-asia

April 2017, 78% approval rating, 76% trust
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/05/...-high.html

CAN'T DUPE THE DUTERTE

(05-25-2017 09:55 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 08:25 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Death squads run by the state. Trump thinks that's a great idea.

July 2016, 91% trust rating
http://www.rappler.com/nation/140318-dut...-july-2016

Oct 2016, 86% approval rating

Jan 2017, 83% approval rating
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/859906/dute...pulse-asia

April 2017, 78% approval rating, 76% trust
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/05/...high.htmtl

CAN'T DUPE THE DUTERTE

I'm sure if you took a poll in Germany after they overran Poland, that their leader would have been really popular too.

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And Duterte hates the US. So much so that he's working against his own countries interest in order to try to harm the USA.

And Trump is encouraging him.

For years China has had a nearly 0% recidivism rate for drug dealers trafficking meth or heroin.

(05-25-2017 10:04 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:55 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 08:25 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Death squads run by the state. Trump thinks that's a great idea.

July 2016, 91% trust rating
http://www.rappler.com/nation/140318-dut...-july-2016

Oct 2016, 86% approval rating

Jan 2017, 83% approval rating
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/859906/dute...pulse-asia

April 2017, 78% approval rating, 76% trust
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/04/05/...high.htmtl

CAN'T DUPE THE DUTERTE

I'm sure if you took a poll in Germany after they overran Poland, that their leader would have been really popular too.
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And Duterte hates the US. So much so that he's working against his own countries interest in order to try to harm the USA.

And Trump is encouraging him.

Sounds like Fake news but..... so what? It's his nation to run.

(05-25-2017 09:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 08:25 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Death squads run by the state. Trump thinks that's a great idea.

Was he democratically elected? You want to bomb the Philippines? How about we stay out of their business and culture.

(05-25-2017 10:38 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 09:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 08:25 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Duerte's one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of leaders.

He's been very dictatorial in some of his antics... but he does crack down HARD on terrorists and the drug trad.

He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Death squads run by the state. Trump thinks that's a great idea.

Was he democratically elected? You want to bomb the Philippines? How about we stay out of their business and culture.

Most every Liberalturd believes that the US should stay out of other countries problems yet they want us to involve ourselves in Philippines drug one. I guess they're pissed because they can't indulge their habits in the Philippines anymore.

(05-25-2017 10:38 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Was he democratically elected? You want to bomb the Philippines? How about we stay out of their business and culture.

Fly.. I'd take any "foreign leader" poll approval rating with a serious grain of salt.

Maduro was in the high 70's minimum in Venezuela.
The President of Iran has constantly been in the high 70/80's approval ratings.

But when you see those international 'man on the streets', you know the polls are bolloxy..

(05-25-2017 11:23 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(05-25-2017 10:38 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Was he democratically elected? You want to bomb the Philippines? How about we stay out of their business and culture.

Fly.. I'd take any "foreign leader" poll approval rating with a serious grain of salt.

Maduro was in the high 70's minimum in Venezuela.
The President of Iran has constantly been in the high 70/80's approval ratings.

But when you see those international 'man on the streets', you know the polls are bolloxy..

IDK or care what his poll ratings are. They have 4 branches of government like the USA, and they have a bunch of political parties, and they have a constitution. The guy ran on executing druggies, and has made loco statements his entire life and they elected him. Our system of due process is pretty rare globally. It is their "problem" they can fix it if they want to.

That country used to be our territory. We should have never given up on that country. Then, we would not have all those dictators.

Teddy Roosevelt should have claimed Cuba as a territory. That way, Castro would not have been put in charge. Imagine Cuba be a US state by now?

(05-25-2017 12:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  That country used to be our territory. We should have never given up on that country. Then, we would not have all those dictators.

Teddy Roosevelt should have claimed Cuba as a territory. That way, Castro would not have been put in charge. Imagine Cuba be a US state by now?

That's very neocon of you.

(05-25-2017 12:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  That country used to be our territory. We should have never given up on that country. Then, we would not have all those dictators.

Teddy Roosevelt should have claimed Cuba as a territory. That way, Castro would not have been put in charge. Imagine Cuba be a US state by now?

Imperialist dog!

The reason the PI (Philippine Islands) isn't a state, is because we did not want to fight a war of independence against them, which had already started before we left.
Most of the Filipinos love Duterte!!
The ones who don't, are from Luzon and went to the Philippine colleges there. Their academic class is full of socialists, and almost as loony as ours. Especially UofP.
I have been to the the PI 80+ times, my wife is a Filipina, (went to school with the vice president) and I have worked with hundreds of Filipinos. They were sick of the corruption, the drugs, the gangs and the filth that had made their lives bad. They wanted a change, they voted for a change, they are getting the change that many of them desired.

(05-25-2017 09:41 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  He's murdered thousands. No trials, no due process, just kill people.

Sounds just like Obama's drone program.