Forgive my ignorance...when you say "blocking it out" are you referring to something natural, or are you saying Google and NASA are doing something nefarious?

Thanks.

(04-10-2017 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Forgive my ignorance...when you say "blocking it out" are you referring to something natural, or are you saying Google and NASA are doing something nefarious?

Thanks.

Pull up google sky and look at it yourself. All you have to do is look at the legs of Virgo and hit the infrared button.

https://www.google.com/sky/

Form your own opinion.

It will be face to face with Jupiter the day of the alignment on 9-23-2017. I have no idea if they will actually be that close to each other, or how far away the "red dragon" object really is. No one can get any hard information on its proximity to any of the planets.

It does appear to be local though (in our solar system). If it was light years away, it would not be so large or show this much detail.

https://www.google.com/sky/

Click the constellations button at the bottom, then click on Virgo at the bottom.

Then click the infared button on the top right hand side......BOOM

The object is so massive, it should be clearly obvious to the naked eye all summer long as Virgo sweeps across the night sky.

But its not reflecting visible light. Its only visible in the infrared spectrum.

Its important to understand that this would not be on the stellarium programs, because they are all computer generated images. They would have to program it in, and I not sure they even have infared on stellarium anyway

Programs like Google sky are actually shots of the sky, just like google earth.

(04-10-2017 12:41 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

Space conspiracies
Revelations

What's not to love?

Other guy I've seen do videos on this is just far too gung-ho for my liking despite my great interest in Planet X and how I think it could be causing affects to our solar system and even on Earth (Like how the Artic is receding but Antarctic is growing, strange weather patterns, axis altering earthquakes).

Agreed, Dexter.

Look at the words Christ spoke about the signs from the heavens just before the end times:

Luke 21:11 - And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Luke 21:25 - And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring



Rev 12 says

1 - And there appeared a great sign in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

so other than this constellation / planetary alignment what happens?

(04-11-2017 09:48 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  so other than this constellation / planetary alignment what happens?

Sunday.

(04-11-2017 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 09:48 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  so other than this constellation / planetary alignment what happens?

Sunday.

Saturday, actually. Its on the sabbath.

Biblical signs typically come BEFORE some event, not during. Not much point in having a sign the same time something is happening. lol

(04-11-2017 11:27 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 09:48 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  so other than this constellation / planetary alignment what happens?

Sunday.

Saturday, actually. Its on the sabbath.

Biblical signs typically come BEFORE some event, not during. Not much point in having a sign the same time something is happening. lol

I was referring to what happens after Saturday, September 23, 2017.

(04-11-2017 12:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I was referring to what happens after Saturday, September 23, 2017.

I don't think he was referring to the next day, but what does it matter?

Has Matthew 24:36 been discussed yet?

Quote:But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Are you making the argument that despite not knowing the day/hour....knowing the year is totally within the realm of possibility?

(04-11-2017 02:48 PM)ummechengr Wrote:  Has Matthew 24:36 been discussed yet?

Quote:But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Are you making the argument that despite not knowing the day/hour....knowing the year is totally within the realm of possibility?

I believe he's said many times that he is not saying this will be the end...just that it's interesting and/or proving the Bible true.

For me, I have faith. I don't need to scientifically prove it. Mostly because to do that, you end up making wild assumptions to fit your perceived thoughts.

(04-11-2017 02:24 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 12:27 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 11:27 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 10:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 09:48 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  so other than this constellation / planetary alignment what happens?

Sunday.

Saturday, actually. Its on the sabbath.

Biblical signs typically come BEFORE some event, not during. Not much point in having a sign the same time something is happening. lol

I was referring to what happens after Saturday, September 23, 2017.

I don't think he was referring to the next day, but what does it matter?

He wasn't...I was just making a joke. Although, I'm more than expecting that everything will just continue as it has.

(04-11-2017 02:48 PM)ummechengr Wrote:  Has Matthew 24:36 been discussed yet?

Quote:But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Are you making the argument that despite not knowing the day/hour....knowing the year is totally within the realm of possibility?

I don't think the Rev 12 sign is pointing to a specific day for the rapture. But there is scriptural evidence that it could be on a future feast of trumpets.

Its interesting that everyone seems to remember that one verse about the day and hour, but at the same time Revelation and Daniel gives an exact counting of days from the mid point of the tribulation until the end.

What are we not to know the day of? The rapture or the 2nd coming?

Seems to be the rapture. The 2nd coming can apparently be calculated by those who will be living through it.

(04-11-2017 03:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I believe he's said many times that he is not saying this will be the end...just that it's interesting and/or proving the Bible true.

For me, I have faith. I don't need to scientifically prove it. Mostly because to do that, you end up making wild assumptions to fit your perceived thoughts.

None of this has anything to do with "proving" the bible. You would already have to believe in the bible to even care about this in the first place.

Jesus Himself told us to watch for His return. We were told to watch for signs in the heavens and on the earth.

Looking for and studying these things is simply following our Lords will.

I'm not denying that at all Eric, but where I think you're off base is this:

ericsrevenge76 Wrote:Revelation and Daniel gives an exact counting of days from the mid point of the tribulation until the end.

It's only "exact" because of the assumptions you apply to them to make them fit.

(04-11-2017 03:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm not denying that at all Eric, but where I think you're off base is this:

ericsrevenge76 Wrote:Revelation and Daniel gives an exact counting of days from the mid point of the tribulation until the end.

It's only "exact" because of the assumptions you apply to them to make them fit.

Actually its just a matter of what is written in the text itself. We dont have to make any assumptions on any level, other than the text is the Word of God.


Daniel `12:11-12
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.



You can make assumptions that this means something completely different that what it just plainly says, but there is no evidence to support those assumptions at all.

(04-11-2017 03:46 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-11-2017 03:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm not denying that at all Eric, but where I think you're off base is this:

ericsrevenge76 Wrote:Revelation and Daniel gives an exact counting of days from the mid point of the tribulation until the end.

It's only "exact" because of the assumptions you apply to them to make them fit.

Actually its just a matter of what is written in the text itself. We dont have to make any assumptions on any level, other than the text is the Word of God.


Daniel 2:11-12
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.



You can make assumptions that this means something completely different that what it just plainly says, but there is no evidence to support those assumptions at all.

Ummm...I don't think the verses you quoted are in Daniel 2. I'm guessing you meant Daniel 12:11-12.

The assumptions being made by many are of the starting point for these periods. That is certainly the subject of much debate and uncertainty.